Tanking in AFL according to bigfooty members

[King-Eliagh]

8 games? Do you think thats a good result?

Its the "Superdraft" Xman! Crap teams would be crazy not to take this rare and lucrative opportunity! And arent they already just battling it out at the bottom there :D

[eelofwest]

Yes those fans see it as a reality. And all the evidence supports them not xman or tlpg. But evidence and these two folk are usually galaxies apart so nothing new to see here.

Lol So true King, i would fall backward of my seat to see Xman come up with a view more evidence based then the usual opinionated dribble he comes up with week in week out.

[Xman]

Yes those fans see it as a reality. And all the evidence supports them not xman or tlpg. But evidence and these two folk are usually galaxies apart so nothing new to see here.

Lol So true King, i would fall backward of my seat to see Xman come up with a view more evidence based then the usual opinionated dribble he comes up with week in week out.

An AFL fans opinion is evidence? there is no evidence on tanking, just pure speculation.

[Xman]

8 games? Do you think thats a good result?

Its the "Superdraft" Xman! Crap teams would be crazy not to take this rare and lucrative opportunity! And arent they already just battling it out at the bottom there :D

8 games for a young developing team was an improvement on previous seasons and shows they were on the way up. This year they have a new coach and a different game plan. It's absurd to think they have thrown in the towel which would alienate their fan base and quite possibly destroy their new coaches career.

As for super draft, it's all speculation. Seriously the draft is full of kids. Some make it some don't. There are no guarantees. Any sides have chosen high draft picks only to be disappointed. Look at Melbourne and Jack Watts. He's done nothing and is the scorn of their supporters. As if they want another case like that, another poor choice as an early draft pick. Also, they lost Scully to the giants.

This is why tanking is bs. There is no guarantee the player you pick early will be a star. There is no guarantee they will stay at your club anyway. Melbourne of all teams would know this from recent history.

[TLPG]

Yes those fans see it as a reality. And all the evidence supports them not xman or tlpg. But evidence and these two folk are usually galaxies apart so nothing new to see here.

Lol So true King, i would fall backward of my seat to see Xman come up with a view more evidence based then the usual opinionated dribble he comes up with week in week out.

IDIOTS!!

There is NO EVIDENCE that tanking exists!!

FACT!!

YOU provide proper evidence that it does. So far all you've done is show us opinions from the media and from fans who are as dumb as you are. They don't count.

Otherwise STFU!!

(Sheesh this section is full of BS!! Had to be said again!!)

[King-Eliagh]

The "experts" agree with me TLPG. I dont care what you say. Tanking is on everyone's lips and coaches have admitted it. The AFL has hushed it up quite poorly but dumbos like you and xman seem to believe it.

http://www.smh.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/expe ... 1ibqx.html

[Xman]

The "experts" agree with me TLPG. I dont care what you say. Tanking is on everyone's lips and coaches have admitted it. The AFL has hushed it up quite poorly but dumbos like you and xman seem to believe it.

http://www.smh.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/expe ... 1ibqx.html

Ok, enough bs KE. You claim there is evidence but failed to show any. Now you're claiming there are experts who agree with you. Who are they? Raiderdave?

''But on the basis of what Dean said, and his clarification of what he meant by what he said, there's not really the basis for taking it further at the present time. But we wouldn't rule that out if further information became available.''

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/expe ... z1sSfWuaZM

[King-Eliagh]

Read the article dipstick.

[eelofwest]

The "experts" agree with me TLPG. I dont care what you say. Tanking is on everyone's lips and coaches have admitted it. The AFL has hushed it up quite poorly but dumbos like you and xman seem to believe it.

http://www.smh.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/expe ... 1ibqx.html

Ok, enough bs KE. You claim there is evidence but failed to show any. Now you're claiming there are experts who agree with you. Who are they? Raiderdave?

''But on the basis of what Dean said, and his clarification of what he meant by what he said, there's not really the basis for taking it further at the present time. But we wouldn't rule that out if further information became available.''

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/expe ... z1sSfWuaZM

http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/04/19/th ... -it-needs/
After three rounds in the AFL, three things have become clear. Firstly, season 2012 will be the most intriguing premiership race for over a decade, with continual speculation over the premiership favourites.

Regardless of the betting agencies or bar conversations, Now there is the problem, ever body is talking about how lopsided it is and the betting agencies have the AFL the most lopsided odds ever. :D

The Pretenders I will now call it the pretenders league.... :D

The tag may be cruel especially this year, but while the six teams in this bracket may have improved, they are unlikely to seriously challenge for the 2012 flag. I had North Melbourne in the top eight pre-season and the early signs are they will take this next step.

Their pre-season form was strong, and while factors were in their favour against Geelong, a win against the reigning premier has been a long time coming for the Kangaroos. Their list is emerging and while they may still fall short against some of the top six, they will claim another scalp or two before season’s end.

St Kilda has been written off too soon, and while the gaps in their list are getting wider and their window may have closed, they are likely to compete with Sydney for a final eight berth. Richmond were judged harshly after round two considering who they lost to. They should improve on last year and may even sneak into the eight if they can keep their performances even.

Adelaide’s draw assists them, though to be fair they were a finalist two seasons ago and they have a lot of potential on their list. They are another who could make the eight without really threatening the top sides. Essendon is the last of this group – they have the potential to make finals, however they are equally likely to finish bottom six.

They do not seem to be growing as a team, however they also seem content to make measured progress, accepting their place in the pecking order while planning for the future.

The Intenders the intenders league

As the name suggests, this group can only make intentions to improve. Brisbane and Port Adelaide fit in this category; signs of improvement are there, but success is driven by individuals more than team effort, and they lack the consistent performances that finals teams require.

While I had Melbourne higher pre-season, they have been disappointing in almost every facet so far this year, and the immediate future does not look good. Many suggest they should commence another rebuild; the list does look good on paper and I am not convinced such drastic action is necessary. They do seem destined for bottom six in 2012, but also have more potential than others to reclaim their season.

Sadly, the same cannot be said for theWestern Bulldogs. They have some good players, particularly in the midfield, and they are able to get the ball enough to be a nuisance. They cannot execute in a way that renders them dangerous, so while we will see some cameo performances, too much is left to the same few.

GWS and Gold Coast will probably be excused again this year, and therefore will occupy the bottom two spots. While the Suns have more stars, GWS are undertaking a calculated five-year plan, and if they suitably complement their list in this year’s draft, they may improve faster than any other in this category next year.

While there may be some argument about where I have predicted teams to finish this season, it is hard to deny that the gap between the best and worst teams seems greater than before, and while most teams have potential to be competitive, realistic premiership chances will elude the bottom six.

With this structure, the league will have to contend with tanking teams and struggling clubs every season. Though the competition is cyclical, it can be a long time before your premiership window opens, and not all fans are patient.

Additionally, not all clubs realise their premiership dream during their window, and with 18 teams, some will experience prolonged droughts.

So Xman no tanking hey, you deluded little man wake up mate

It is not healthy to be entering round four with so many clubs declaring they are ‘preparing for next season’ and looking to rebuild. It is also a vulnerable state for non-financial clubs currently at the bottom of the ladder, as the journey to the top is longer than before.

Those at the top continue to grow strong and avoid bottoming out, so while they sustain performances on and off field, the challenge to usurp them becomes more difficult. Our current structure creates the mismatched games we have seen – and will continue to see – this year.

While footy fans have a lot to be excited about this year, the need for a radical change may become increasingly evident by season’s end.

All the Fans are talking about tanking the media is on it, there is not denying it exists in the AFL.

[Xman]

One article and a thread on BF is "All the fans"?

Then "All the fans are complaining how boring NRL is this year"

[TLPG]

I'm only going to say this once;

What Bailey admitted to doing is NOT tanking!!

I repeat;

NOT TANKING!!!!!

All that follow up from the so called experts are based on that false definition, which as Xman said was drummed up by the media.

So the next person who states clearly that tanking/match fixing exists in the AFL gets called up to the BS file.

[eelofwest]

The "experts" agree with me TLPG. I dont care what you say. Tanking is on everyone's lips and coaches have admitted it. The AFL has hushed it up quite poorly but dumbos like you and xman seem to believe it.

http://www.smh.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/expe ... 1ibqx.html

Ok, enough bs KE. You claim there is evidence but failed to show any. Now you're claiming there are experts who agree with you. Who are they? Raiderdave?

''But on the basis of what Dean said, and his clarification of what he meant by what he said, there's not really the basis for taking it further at the present time. But we wouldn't rule that out if further information became available.''

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/expe ... z1sSfWuaZM

http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/04/19/th ... -it-needs/
After three rounds in the AFL, three things have become clear. Firstly, season 2012 will be the most intriguing premiership race for over a decade, with continual speculation over the premiership favourites.

Regardless of the betting agencies or bar conversations, Now there is the problem, ever body is talking about how lopsided it is and the betting agencies have the AFL the most lopsided odds ever. :D

The Pretenders I will now call it the pretenders league.... :D

The tag may be cruel especially this year, but while the six teams in this bracket may have improved, they are unlikely to seriously challenge for the 2012 flag. I had North Melbourne in the top eight pre-season and the early signs are they will take this next step.

Their pre-season form was strong, and while factors were in their favour against Geelong, a win against the reigning premier has been a long time coming for the Kangaroos. Their list is emerging and while they may still fall short against some of the top six, they will claim another scalp or two before season’s end.

St Kilda has been written off too soon, and while the gaps in their list are getting wider and their window may have closed, they are likely to compete with Sydney for a final eight berth. Richmond were judged harshly after round two considering who they lost to. They should improve on last year and may even sneak into the eight if they can keep their performances even.

Adelaide’s draw assists them, though to be fair they were a finalist two seasons ago and they have a lot of potential on their list. They are another who could make the eight without really threatening the top sides. Essendon is the last of this group – they have the potential to make finals, however they are equally likely to finish bottom six.

They do not seem to be growing as a team, however they also seem content to make measured progress, accepting their place in the pecking order while planning for the future.

The Intenders the intenders league

As the name suggests, this group can only make intentions to improve. Brisbane and Port Adelaide fit in this category; signs of improvement are there, but success is driven by individuals more than team effort, and they lack the consistent performances that finals teams require.

While I had Melbourne higher pre-season, they have been disappointing in almost every facet so far this year, and the immediate future does not look good. Many suggest they should commence another rebuild; the list does look good on paper and I am not convinced such drastic action is necessary. They do seem destined for bottom six in 2012, but also have more potential than others to reclaim their season.

Sadly, the same cannot be said for theWestern Bulldogs. They have some good players, particularly in the midfield, and they are able to get the ball enough to be a nuisance. They cannot execute in a way that renders them dangerous, so while we will see some cameo performances, too much is left to the same few.

GWS and Gold Coast will probably be excused again this year, and therefore will occupy the bottom two spots. While the Suns have more stars, GWS are undertaking a calculated five-year plan, and if they suitably complement their list in this year’s draft, they may improve faster than any other in this category next year.

While there may be some argument about where I have predicted teams to finish this season, it is hard to deny that the gap between the best and worst teams seems greater than before, and while most teams have potential to be competitive, realistic premiership chances will elude the bottom six.

With this structure, the league will have to contend with tanking teams and struggling clubs every season. Though the competition is cyclical, it can be a long time before your premiership window opens, and not all fans are patient.

Additionally, not all clubs realise their premiership dream during their window, and with 18 teams, some will experience prolonged droughts.

So Xman no tanking hey, you deluded little man wake up mate

It is not healthy to be entering round four with so many clubs declaring they are ‘preparing for next season’ and looking to rebuild. It is also a vulnerable state for non-financial clubs currently at the bottom of the ladder, as the journey to the top is longer than before.

Those at the top continue to grow strong and avoid bottoming out, so while they sustain performances on and off field, the challenge to usurp them becomes more difficult. Our current structure creates the mismatched games we have seen – and will continue to see – this year.

While footy fans have a lot to be excited about this year, the need for a radical change may become increasingly evident by season’s end.

All the Fans are talking about tanking the media is on it.
Not my words

[Xman]

An article on roar and comments on bf are not evidence and not all fans.

If so then RL is boring to its own fans.

[King-Eliagh]

I'm only going to say this once;

What Bailey admitted to doing is NOT tanking!!

I repeat;

NOT TANKING!!!!!

All that follow up from the so called experts are based on that false definition, which as Xman said was drummed up by the media.

So the next person who states clearly that tanking/match fixing exists in the AFL gets called up to the BS file.

Prove it big boy. I'm sorry but the mass of evidence suggests tanking does exist. There's little to refute this apart from you and Xman's irrelevant opinion. Tanking looks to be the real deal folks, the fans, experts and coaches all say its so.

[Xman]

I'm only going to say this once;

What Bailey admitted to doing is NOT tanking!!

I repeat;

NOT TANKING!!!!!

All that follow up from the so called experts are based on that false definition, which as Xman said was drummed up by the media.

So the next person who states clearly that tanking/match fixing exists in the AFL gets called up to the BS file.

Prove it big boy. I'm sorry but the mass of evidence suggests tanking does exist. There's little to refute this apart from you and Xman's irrelevant opinion. Tanking looks to be the real deal folks, the fans, experts and coaches all say its so.

Draft concessions apply to very few team, only those who repeatedly finish in the bottom few. Who Is going to sacrifice multiple seasons to get an extra pick!