Bs file claim #27: the Vic Police for keep incidents out of

[King-Eliagh]

Cat got yer tongue Xman? As I said dont take offence, its just the way things are.

[Xman]

Cat got yer tongue Xman? As I said dont take offence, its just the way things are.

Raider wouldn't know a fact if it crawled up his arse!

[King-Eliagh]

Fact is raider has outsmarted you ponies everal times.

[Xman]

Fact is raider has outsmarted you ponies everal times.

Everal means never does it?

[King-Eliagh]

a haha heehehee aarrgggghhahahaha bwaaahhahahaa hoohohohooohohoo

i suddenly remember going to the raw comedy fest in sydney where young comedians are given a crack and a chance to take the stage for the first time. Many comedians were soo bad they were actually funny.

You're funny xman.

[TLPG]

And he's also right. Stop defending Raider, KE. It's like defending Saddam Hussein - it's a mug's job and downright impossible.

[ParraEelsNRL]

A CONTROVERSIAL deal struck between Victoria Police and the AFL to co-operate on criminal matters gave the league extraordinary rights to investigate football identities and to vet public disclosure of police inquiries.
Previously secret details of the deal, made public yesterday, show that police were required to consult the AFL before commenting on their own investigations into AFL players, coaches, board members or even staff.
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The deal also gave the AFL permission to ''investigate matters of illegal betting'' and serious crimes such as drug trafficking, domestic violence and sexual assault.
The police-AFL ''relationship'' was formed so both could investigate ''any criminal activity that would be prejudicial to the interests of the AFL'', the contract says.
Once the AFL had enough evidence, it was obliged to hand over its files to police. Likewise, police had to co-operate ''by providing to the AFL information that may be relevant to any possible criminal offences''.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/how-p ... z1ui5KzFju


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[ParraEelsNRL]

Police give secret player files to AFL
August 6, 2010
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Secret police files gathered on AFL players, coaches, board members and even staff have been made available to the league.

Victoria Police struck a deal with the league to share any records it has gathered on AFL identities, including handing over photos and videos.

However, the AFL denies asking for or receiving any files from the police.

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An AFL club president, civil liberties advocates and the state opposition have all blasted the agreement as an unprecedented, insulting invasion of privacy.

Hawthorn president Jeff Kennett said the agreement is utterly disturbing.

"I cannot imagine any circumstance that would justify our police force handing over its files to a sporting body," the former Victorian premier said.

"It is a preposterous suggestion. It beggars belief that the AFL or any of their personnel are entitled to police files for any reason."

He demanded to know how many files have been handed over and if AFL CEO Andrew Demetriou is aware of it.

"I am absolutely gobsmacked by this," Mr Kennett said.

"It's almost unbelievable."

The seven-page document, released to AAP under freedom of information laws, states that police "law enforcement data" can be handed over to the AFL.

"Law enforcement data may take the form of any text, images, audio and video, may be stored on computing devices, in hard copy, or on other storage media, and includes (but is not limited to) data related to individuals, aggregated data, written reports and correspondence, memoranda, police diaries, official notebooks, running sheets and other data repositories," the agreement says.

The memorandum of understanding (MOU) reveals it was designed to share information on a wide range of AFL identities: "Any player, member of the coaching staff, senior executive of the AFL or any employee, servant or agent of the AFL having official duties in relation to AFL matches."

The AFL Players' Association said players were entitled to privacy just like everyone else.

"If information is disclosed openly then clearly we'd have some concerns," union chief executive Matt Finnis told AAP.

"What's important is that there are limitations, protections and protocols put around that agreement and it's only carried out when there's a justifiable reason that pertains to the integrity of the competition."

Both the AFL and Victoria Police would not reveal the specific reasons the agreement was struck but it's believed to be part of efforts to combat match fixing, gambling, drug use and sexual assault.

"Basically, it has to do with any offence where a person can be charged," said AFL spokesman Patrick Keane.

The reasons behind the agreement have also been censored from the MOU under the FOI request.

Robin Davy, manager of the police department's FOI and privacy office, said such details have to be kept secret because disclosing it would impact police investigations.

Victoria Police released a statement describing the agreement as part of its efforts to "generate an open and transparent line of communication" with the league.

The agreement was signed in September 2009 and covered the off-season.

Police say the agreement expired after four months, but the AFL says it is ongoing.

"Still in place," Mr Keane said.

Liberty Victoria president Michael Pearce, SC, said both the AFL and the police were resorting to paranoia by peering into the private lives of citizens, let alone during their holidays.

"This is extremely heavy-handed," he told AAP.

"There's serious implications here for workplace issues, whether the police ought to be providing information of this kind to any employer."

Mr Pearce said the MOU is very similar to one struck between the police and the private consortium building Victoria's $3.5 billion desalination plant to share information on protesters.

That agreement is currently under investigation by the state's law reform committee for possible breaches in privacy laws.

State opposition spokesman David Davis said the decision to share police files on AFL figures is creating a "secret state" where "Victoria Police hands over dossiers on citizens including AFL players to private companies".

Mr Keane said police not been given any files to the AFL.

He also rejected criticism that the agreement jeopardised players’ privacy.

"The AFL has never sought nor has been given any police dossiers, photos, files, videos, films or secret reports by the Victoria Police,’’ Mr Keane said in a statement to AAP.

"The AFL is subject to the same privacy laws as any other organisation and we abide by them and AFL players, participants and officials receive the same protections under privacy laws as any other person in this state.

"The MOU was the formalisation of a long-standing commitment by the AFL to cooperate with any police inquiry and established a single point of contact both within the Victoria Police and the AFL as the central people to contact should there be any serious criminal matter involving an AFL player or official."

AAP

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/p ... z1ui69tsqu

[ParraEelsNRL]

MOU between AFL and Victoria Police

Sunday, 08 August 2010 00:44
It's just ridiculous to propose that Victoria Police would pass on 'secret' files to the AFL.

No Law Enforcement Data would change hands through the establishment of this agreement.

The clause in this agreement which refers to the definition of Law Enforcement Data is merely Victoria Police acknowledging the fact that any information exchanged would be subject to the standards and protocols established under the Law Enforcement Data Security Act 2005.

The intention of this MOU was to formalise a long-standing agreement between the two organisations to cooperate fully with each other throughout any criminal investigation involving an AFL player or official .

It established open and transparent lines of communication between Victoria Police and the AFL and nominated a person from each organisation as first point of contact for the other.

Throughout the duration of the MOU there was no Law Enforcement Data given to the AFL by Victoria Police.

Like any organisation in Victoria, the AFL and Victoria Police are bound by Privacy legislation.

That legislation overrides any agreement around information exchange.

http://www.vicpolicenews.com.au/our-say ... olice.html

[TLPG]

Idiot.

The MOU goes back a lot further than that. It's there for the police and the AFL to co-operate in particular on issues of on field violence. For instance, the police were involved in an incident involving Leigh Matthews and Neville Bruns at Princes Park in 1985 after the match day umpires missed it. IIRC the police were also involved in the investigation leading up to the suspension of St.Kilda's Jim O'Dea in 1972 against Collingwood's John Greening - an incident that left Greening in a coma for more than a week.

Under normal criminal circumstances, any assault would come under police scrutiny. That isn't limited to footy either. I'm certain there will be similar examples in thugby - and there would be a similar MOU in place for it.

The whole point is that if a criminal act took place - the police will act. The MOU makes no difference to this. All it is with the 2009 signing is a sharing of information not normally made available to the public. It does NOT prove that there has been a cover up - nowhere near it. It's just you, Parra, trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

[justanotherleaguefan]

hhahahaa what a joke

[TLPG]

Thank you for agreeing with me, JALF.

[ParraEelsNRL]

TLPG, you're a moron and a sook.

[TLPG]

Nope. You can't handle the real truth.

[Xman]

Bs file claim #27: the Vic Police for keep (abuse) out of the media by threatening the victims & the VFL for paying the victims off

This was the original claim. It is total BS.

The MOU between the AFL and police was a formalised agreement to pass information between each organization to better investigate criminal matters.

The intention of this MOU was to formalise a long-standing agreement between the two organisations to cooperate fully with each other throughout any criminal investigation involving an AFL player or official .

Where is the suggestion this was used to cover up information?