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well duuuurrrrrrrrh

it is the most racist sport in this country
probably on the planet :wink:
Very bold statement there. Got any evidence? :roll:
Of course not. This is Raider we are talking about. Our number 1 BS artists strikes again. #-o
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A Collingwood fan who racially abused a Gold Coast Suns player has had his 20-year club membership terminated after complaints from fellow supporters, Suns youngster Joel Wilkinson, and Magpie star Dale Thomas.
The AFL conducted a conciliation meeting with the individual, who will remain unnamed, after receiving the complaints. Though the league's Racial and Religious Vilification Code does not apply to crowd members, the AFL investigated the incident "in line with the same process and consistent with the principles that underpin that code."
Wilkinson asked for the issue to be made public in a bid to educate spectators about what is unacceptable crowd behaviour at AFL matches.

Siginificantly, Collingwood also received a complaint about the matter after the game from Thomas, and fans in the vicinity.
Collingwood received a large number of emails and telephone calls from supporters who were "deeply offended" by the comments, and were then able to identify the culprit.
Collingwood and the AFL said the offending member took full responsibility for his comments and actions and has agreed to write letters of apology to those directly affected.

"It is important that Joel knows that the behaviour of one Collingwood supporter is not a reflection of the views of the broader Collingwood community. I hope Joel is heartened by the strong leadership position that Dale Thomas took, which was supported by the crowd that witnessed the incident and then, ultimately, the football club itself."
The offending spectator agreed to a settlement in which he will write letters of apology to Joel Wilkinson, the Gold Coast Suns and Collingwood, including those Collingwood members and supporters who were similarly offended by the incident.

His club membership of 20 years standing was immediately terminated, and his reapplication for membership of the club will only be considered after he undertakes a racial vilification re-education program.

AFL General Manager of Football Operations Adrian Anderson commended the courage of Joel Wilkinson in standing up against racial abuse and the actions of Dale Thomas and those Collingwood fans.

"The decisive response from Dale Thomas and the Collingwood supporters to this disappointing but isolated incident is incredibly impressive and demonstrates how far we have come as a sporting code," Mr Anderson said.

"All AFL players deserve and expect the right to compete as hard as they possibly can on the field, free from any form of abuse or harassment.
Anderson said the league would like to have banned the spectator from attending matches, but any such suspension would have been impossible to enforce.
Gold Coast Suns CEO Travis Auld also praised the way the matter was dealt with.

"This incident and its swift resolution sends a powerful message that racial vilification at the football in any form is offensive and totally unacceptable – not just to the target of the vilification but also to the overwhelming majority of players and supporters."
"The Gold Coast SUNS and Joel Wilkinson are extremely disappointed that the incident took place, however we commend the AFL, the Collingwood Football Club and in particular Dale Thomas for dealing with this serious matter both swiftly and appropriately."

Wilkinson, who is the Suns' Multicultural Ambassador chose to make his complaint public.

"I was shocked when the incident took place and it was extremely upsetting at the time, but the actions of Dale Thomas and a number of Collingwood supporters in the area certainly demonstrate that the overwhelming majority of society finds this behaviour to be unacceptable," Wilkinson said today.

"I hope by standing up and raising awareness of this issue goes a long way to ensuring that no other player or spectator will be vilified at sporting events or in society in the future."

Wilkinson thanked the Gold Coast SUNS and his teammates, the AFL and the Collingwood Football Club for supporting him and promptly dealing with the issue.

"I want to personally thank Dale Thomas and the Collingwood Football Club for standing up and saying that what happened is unacceptable. I also want to thank the Gold Coast SUNS, my teammates and the AFL for their support and commitment to make a difference on and off the field when it comes to racial and religious vilification."  
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/r ... z1wxLdZwB8

Another demonstration that the AFL is anything but a racist organization. =D>
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A Collingwood fan who racially abused a Gold Coast Suns player has had his 20-year club membership terminated after complaints from fellow supporters, Suns youngster Joel Wilkinson, and Magpie star Dale Thomas.
The AFL conducted a conciliation meeting with the individual, who will remain unnamed, after receiving the complaints. Though the league's Racial and Religious Vilification Code does not apply to crowd members, the AFL investigated the incident "in line with the same process and consistent with the principles that underpin that code."
Wilkinson asked for the issue to be made public in a bid to educate spectators about what is unacceptable crowd behaviour at AFL matches.

Siginificantly, Collingwood also received a complaint about the matter after the game from Thomas, and fans in the vicinity.
Collingwood received a large number of emails and telephone calls from supporters who were "deeply offended" by the comments, and were then able to identify the culprit.
Collingwood and the AFL said the offending member took full responsibility for his comments and actions and has agreed to write letters of apology to those directly affected.

"It is important that Joel knows that the behaviour of one Collingwood supporter is not a reflection of the views of the broader Collingwood community. I hope Joel is heartened by the strong leadership position that Dale Thomas took, which was supported by the crowd that witnessed the incident and then, ultimately, the football club itself."
The offending spectator agreed to a settlement in which he will write letters of apology to Joel Wilkinson, the Gold Coast Suns and Collingwood, including those Collingwood members and supporters who were similarly offended by the incident.

His club membership of 20 years standing was immediately terminated, and his reapplication for membership of the club will only be considered after he undertakes a racial vilification re-education program.

AFL General Manager of Football Operations Adrian Anderson commended the courage of Joel Wilkinson in standing up against racial abuse and the actions of Dale Thomas and those Collingwood fans.

"The decisive response from Dale Thomas and the Collingwood supporters to this disappointing but isolated incident is incredibly impressive and demonstrates how far we have come as a sporting code," Mr Anderson said.

"All AFL players deserve and expect the right to compete as hard as they possibly can on the field, free from any form of abuse or harassment.
Anderson said the league would like to have banned the spectator from attending matches, but any such suspension would have been impossible to enforce.
Gold Coast Suns CEO Travis Auld also praised the way the matter was dealt with.

"This incident and its swift resolution sends a powerful message that racial vilification at the football in any form is offensive and totally unacceptable – not just to the target of the vilification but also to the overwhelming majority of players and supporters."
"The Gold Coast SUNS and Joel Wilkinson are extremely disappointed that the incident took place, however we commend the AFL, the Collingwood Football Club and in particular Dale Thomas for dealing with this serious matter both swiftly and appropriately."

Wilkinson, who is the Suns' Multicultural Ambassador chose to make his complaint public.

"I was shocked when the incident took place and it was extremely upsetting at the time, but the actions of Dale Thomas and a number of Collingwood supporters in the area certainly demonstrate that the overwhelming majority of society finds this behaviour to be unacceptable," Wilkinson said today.

"I hope by standing up and raising awareness of this issue goes a long way to ensuring that no other player or spectator will be vilified at sporting events or in society in the future."

Wilkinson thanked the Gold Coast SUNS and his teammates, the AFL and the Collingwood Football Club for supporting him and promptly dealing with the issue.

"I want to personally thank Dale Thomas and the Collingwood Football Club for standing up and saying that what happened is unacceptable. I also want to thank the Gold Coast SUNS, my teammates and the AFL for their support and commitment to make a difference on and off the field when it comes to racial and religious vilification."  
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/r ... z1wxLdZwB8

Another demonstration that the AFL is anything but a racist organization. =D>
Actually it demonstrates that the AFL knows there fans are a pack of racists......... :lol:
Though the league's Racial and Religious Vilification Code does not apply to crowd members, the AFL investigated the incident "in line with the same process and consistent with the principles that underpin that code."
Wilkinson asked for the issue to be made public in a bid to educate spectators about what is unacceptable crowd behavior at AFL matches.
Even going as far to use a rule only for AFL players on fans, desperate much. Sorry cant wipe clean that racist image with one good deed.
Good job AFL, its a shame that you have to use the AFL codes of conduct on the fans but hey do what you gotta do to stamp out racism in your game, i congratulate you on this. :D
The AFL fan in a special but backward breed.... :lol: :lol: time to enter the new millennium guys enough with the racism.
Oh and enough Meatloaf please :lol: :lol:
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eelofwest wrote:
Xman wrote:
A Collingwood fan who racially abused a Gold Coast Suns player has had his 20-year club membership terminated after complaints from fellow supporters, Suns youngster Joel Wilkinson, and Magpie star Dale Thomas.
The AFL conducted a conciliation meeting with the individual, who will remain unnamed, after receiving the complaints. Though the league's Racial and Religious Vilification Code does not apply to crowd members, the AFL investigated the incident "in line with the same process and consistent with the principles that underpin that code."
Wilkinson asked for the issue to be made public in a bid to educate spectators about what is unacceptable crowd behaviour at AFL matches.

Siginificantly, Collingwood also received a complaint about the matter after the game from Thomas, and fans in the vicinity.
Collingwood received a large number of emails and telephone calls from supporters who were "deeply offended" by the comments, and were then able to identify the culprit.
Collingwood and the AFL said the offending member took full responsibility for his comments and actions and has agreed to write letters of apology to those directly affected.

"It is important that Joel knows that the behaviour of one Collingwood supporter is not a reflection of the views of the broader Collingwood community. I hope Joel is heartened by the strong leadership position that Dale Thomas took, which was supported by the crowd that witnessed the incident and then, ultimately, the football club itself."
The offending spectator agreed to a settlement in which he will write letters of apology to Joel Wilkinson, the Gold Coast Suns and Collingwood, including those Collingwood members and supporters who were similarly offended by the incident.

His club membership of 20 years standing was immediately terminated, and his reapplication for membership of the club will only be considered after he undertakes a racial vilification re-education program.

AFL General Manager of Football Operations Adrian Anderson commended the courage of Joel Wilkinson in standing up against racial abuse and the actions of Dale Thomas and those Collingwood fans.

"The decisive response from Dale Thomas and the Collingwood supporters to this disappointing but isolated incident is incredibly impressive and demonstrates how far we have come as a sporting code," Mr Anderson said.

"All AFL players deserve and expect the right to compete as hard as they possibly can on the field, free from any form of abuse or harassment.
Anderson said the league would like to have banned the spectator from attending matches, but any such suspension would have been impossible to enforce.
Gold Coast Suns CEO Travis Auld also praised the way the matter was dealt with.

"This incident and its swift resolution sends a powerful message that racial vilification at the football in any form is offensive and totally unacceptable – not just to the target of the vilification but also to the overwhelming majority of players and supporters."
"The Gold Coast SUNS and Joel Wilkinson are extremely disappointed that the incident took place, however we commend the AFL, the Collingwood Football Club and in particular Dale Thomas for dealing with this serious matter both swiftly and appropriately."

Wilkinson, who is the Suns' Multicultural Ambassador chose to make his complaint public.

"I was shocked when the incident took place and it was extremely upsetting at the time, but the actions of Dale Thomas and a number of Collingwood supporters in the area certainly demonstrate that the overwhelming majority of society finds this behaviour to be unacceptable," Wilkinson said today.

"I hope by standing up and raising awareness of this issue goes a long way to ensuring that no other player or spectator will be vilified at sporting events or in society in the future."

Wilkinson thanked the Gold Coast SUNS and his teammates, the AFL and the Collingwood Football Club for supporting him and promptly dealing with the issue.

"I want to personally thank Dale Thomas and the Collingwood Football Club for standing up and saying that what happened is unacceptable. I also want to thank the Gold Coast SUNS, my teammates and the AFL for their support and commitment to make a difference on and off the field when it comes to racial and religious vilification."  
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/r ... z1wxLdZwB8

Another demonstration that the AFL is anything but a racist organization. =D>
Actually it demonstrates that the AFL knows there fans are a pack of racists......... :lol:
Though the league's Racial and Religious Vilification Code does not apply to crowd members, the AFL investigated the incident "in line with the same process and consistent with the principles that underpin that code."
Wilkinson asked for the issue to be made public in a bid to educate spectators about what is unacceptable crowd behavior at AFL matches.
Even going as far to use a rule only for AFL players on fans, desperate much. Sorry cant wipe clean that racist image with one good deed.
Good job AFL, its a shame that you have to use the AFL codes of conduct on the fans but hey do what you gotta do to stamp out racism in your game, i congratulate you on this. :D
The AFL fan in a special but backward breed.... :lol: :lol: time to enter the new millennium guys enough with the racism.
Oh and enough Meatloaf please :lol: :lol:
:lol: =D> =D> =D> Couldnt agree more eels, superb post. I yawn at Xman and co's finger pointing at their stupid leaders comments and policies while racist acts continue to take place. Exactly as you say eels, Xman is simply pointing to how the AFL, its fans and employees continue to have problems with racism.
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This situation exists in thugby crowds as well. NRL of course sweep it under the carpet. It also exists in other sporting crowds.

The AFL is doing something about it, and fans know that it's wrong and will single out the perpertrators.

Not something I will give the fans of thugby! They do NOTHING!
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Oh I'm not denying this rubbish exists throughout Australia. Its just that it appears to be occurring most in the AFL comp, which is why they need to "do something about it". Not enough imo, cause it just keeps on bubbling up.
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Oh I'm not denying this rubbish exists throughout Australia. Its just that it appears to be occurring most in the AFL comp, which is why they need to "do something about it". Not enough imo, cause it just keeps on bubbling up.
The NRL stamped out bad crowd behavior year's ago with the Bulldogs crowd.

NRL crowds are some of the most diverse crowds especially in Sydney western suburb teams, ie, Parramatta Eels my team, West Tigers, Penrith, Canterbury Bankstown.
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Yes eels I think you're right there. I dont know how but the NRL has really embraced multiculturalism, in their crowds, and in the sportsmen it attracts. I was watching a 'classic' game on fox from 1991 a few months ago in my hotel room. Panthers vs easts i think it was. And I was shocked to see just the one player on the field who was not clearly anglo saxon.

Looking at the AFL comp today it seems as though its 20 years behind on this front. For some reason the code has not embraced multiculturalism in its sportsment and in its crowds. Perhaps its because it is more prevalent in the southern states where multiculturalism hasnt been as prevalent as in sydney? Perhaps its that ol chesnut, the actual name of the sport itself, which doesnt lend itself at all to those who wouldnt like to befriend pauline hanson. Who knows. But thems the facts and thats why there is little wonder AFL fans, players and other employees seem so intolerant and prone to racist ignorant outbursts. A long way to go has the code they call 'Australian' football, in fact, looking at our nation, one could almost argue the code is unaustralian. [-X Changing the name to marngrook would be a good start.
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Prove it, Eel. I don't believe you. Especially as you didn't include Cronulla or Manly - the former in particular.

The AFL stamps it out. The NRL hides it.
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Prove it, Eel. I don't believe you. Especially as you didn't include Cronulla or Manly - the former in particular.

The AFL stamps it out. The NRL hides it.
The NRL stamped out bad crowd behavior year's ago with the Bulldogs crowd.

NRL crowds are some of the most diverse crowds especially in Sydney western suburb teams, ie, Parramatta Eels my team, West Tigers, Penrith, Canterbury Banktown
What Cronulla and Manly are in the Western suburbs?
Damm you are stupid, at least do some research before you post here ffs.
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Yes eels I think you're right there. I dont know how but the NRL has really embraced multiculturalism, in their crowds, and in the sportsmen it attracts. I was watching a 'classic' game on fox from 1991 a few months ago in my hotel room. Panthers vs easts i think it was. And I was shocked to see just the one player on the field who was not clearly anglo saxon.

Looking at the AFL comp today it seems as though its 20 years behind on this front. For some reason the code has not embraced multiculturalism in its sportsment and in its crowds. Perhaps its because it is more prevalent in the southern states where multiculturalism hasnt been as prevalent as in sydney? Perhaps its that ol chesnut, the actual name of the sport itself, which doesnt lend itself at all to those who wouldnt like to befriend pauline hanson. Who knows. But thems the facts and thats why there is little wonder AFL fans, players and other employees seem so intolerant and prone to racist ignorant outbursts. A long way to go has the code they call 'Australian' football, in fact, looking at our nation, one could almost argue the code is unaustralian. [-X Changing the name to marngrook would be a good start.
Totally agree, i mean look at the makeup of the AFL teams there would be at least 90% Anglo Australians playing and the rest would be aboriginal Australians.

They would be at least 20 years behind on this, and the AFL know it that's why they are trying to get more Polynesians playing there game. Falou and Carmichael ring a bell, this is another reason they got these 2 guys.
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KE, you will withdraw that Pauline Hanson inference immediately. That is libel against the AFL.

Eels, I umpired a Polynesian junior in 1996. I umpired a Vietnamise junior in 1989. So don't tell me the AFL are behind anything! And you have no right to limit your scope on racists to the western suburbs. That's why I added Cronulla in particular.

I consider footy to be the least racist sport in this country, because we take ACTION! I don't consider thugby to be most racist though - I reserve that label for soccer.
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TLPG hows about you shut yo pie eater and stop ordering folk around and making stupid threats? How's that sound?

I will say though that in Sydney marngrook is becoming quite multicultural. Some of the teams I've played against here are very mixed and the muslim community seem to be especially enjoying their footy. Great to see. So perhaps my thought on the southern, less multicultural states is spot on. However the racism just doesnt stop bubbling up in the AFL, so I think i'm right also in my assertion that the name of the game itself sounds somewhat pauline hansonesque.

If you've spent any time **** other cultures in Australia there is quite a bit of light hearted but negatively framed joking about the 'aussie', their accent and the way 'aussies' or 'skips' do things.. their common culture. Calling a code 'Australian football' can therefore have negative connotations **** the more recently migrated communities. But TLPG wouldnt understand what I'm getting at, not above his blind love for the game, unfortunately called 'Australian Rules'. This brings to mind the movie of the same title. An interesting look at racism, sport, and many dark aspects of 'aussie' history and culture. You seen it TLPG?
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You don't know what you're talking about, KE. Yes we have a history of racism in Australia, but it's the same in other countries and also it is spread across all forms of social life! So don't you DARE try to put "Australian" as somehow racist in connotation! That's bloody libel and the sooner you admit that the better!!

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