Talking Footy

214Four wrote:

Xman wrote:

214Four wrote:

compareing the popularity between football(and the a-league) to the AFL with ratings/memberships and crowds is hard.
Firstly my main arguement was fottball is more popular than AFL in sydney and the western sydney a-league team has generated more interest and will sit higher in the pecking order compared to the two AFL teams. football is followed on two/ three main fronts in sydney and specially sydneys west, English premier league, the socceroos and the a-league. atm western sydney does not have an a-league team and also makes it hard to properly compare but here i go....

being a fully fledged professional league on both free to air and pay tv, compareing AFL to a-league is unfair, AFL hands down is bigger but looking at viewing

This year the swans have had 82,000 then 32,000 then 46,000 then 50,000. GWS this year have averaged 82,000 then 26,000 then 34,000 then 26,000

The HAL averages around 65-80k nartionally and around 30K in Sydney, now that those figures are for the least watched of the three, do i need to add the premier league amounts or the socceroos?....

Participation numbers, lol not worth even going there... How many AFL stars are from NSW compared to footballing stars?!
how many AFL players would be reconised in sydney compared to football stars?? umm....

The average sydneysider and even more west sydneysiders has a much greater connection to football than AFL. Sydney, Western sydney majorally, wollongong majorally and the hunter majorally have very large football communities and football has been a part of the major cities of NSW for many many years. No other sport connects to all the nationalitities like football does.... etc etc....
Any more???

These are some reasons why AFL is less popular than football in NSW

So you're comparing international soccer to the AFL?

Participation rates for soccer in australia smash RL!

AFL beats A league in Sydney in all those indicators I described. End of story.

well what about the 6500 at the last gws game?... i can not think of a time when Sydney FC were ever that low so no AFL does not beat a-league in all ur indicators. when the new western a-league team comes it will make gws look very bad.

i can see that i will need to take into consideration of your background, its always hard for a person like yourself growing up in that city and state that loves to bellow out *its modest facts* like "Melbourne is the sporting capital", "AFL is the greatest game", "AFL is the aussie game", "the world is playing AR in record numbers", "the mcg is the worlds best stadium on earth'' (i could go on and on and on lol).

listening gullably to this over the years has seeded into a massive AFL poppy, almost every victorian has it, im lucky i wasnt born where this disibilty is common. the AFL tall poppy casuses victorians to suffer a 'syndrome' when AFL is finally realised to them AR is just a minor sport here in NSW and that tvictorians didnt invent the sky and water isnt AFL players sweat haha

AFL is underneath League and Union and football here. in western sydney Daylight on Europa separates Football above AFL and Rugby League is somewhere outside the solar system way out in front of all...

i live here in sydney, in western sydney, and i can say football, union and league rain supreme over AFL here because thats how it is here, you can only give your opinion thats solely on trying to protect your precious AFL's pride.

214Four wrote:

Xman wrote:

214Four wrote:

compareing the popularity between football(and the a-league) to the AFL with ratings/memberships and crowds is hard.
Firstly my main arguement was fottball is more popular than AFL in sydney and the western sydney a-league team has generated more interest and will sit higher in the pecking order compared to the two AFL teams. football is followed on two/ three main fronts in sydney and specially sydneys west, English premier league, the socceroos and the a-league. atm western sydney does not have an a-league team and also makes it hard to properly compare but here i go....

being a fully fledged professional league on both free to air and pay tv, compareing AFL to a-league is unfair, AFL hands down is bigger but looking at viewing

This year the swans have had 82,000 then 32,000 then 46,000 then 50,000. GWS this year have averaged 82,000 then 26,000 then 34,000 then 26,000

The HAL averages around 65-80k nartionally and around 30K in Sydney, now that those figures are for the least watched of the three, do i need to add the premier league amounts or the socceroos?....

Participation numbers, lol not worth even going there... How many AFL stars are from NSW compared to footballing stars?!
how many AFL players would be reconised in sydney compared to football stars?? umm....

The average sydneysider and even more west sydneysiders has a much greater connection to football than AFL. Sydney, Western sydney majorally, wollongong majorally and the hunter majorally have very large football communities and football has been a part of the major cities of NSW for many many years. No other sport connects to all the nationalitities like football does.... etc etc....
Any more???

These are some reasons why AFL is less popular than football in NSW

So you're comparing international soccer to the AFL?

Participation rates for soccer in australia smash RL!

AFL beats A league in Sydney in all those indicators I described. End of story.

well what about the 6500 at the last gws game?... i can not think of a time when Sydney FC were ever that low so no AFL does not beat a-league in all ur indicators. when the new western a-league team comes it will make gws look very bad.

i can see that i will need to take into consideration of your background, its always hard for a person like yourself growing up in that city and state that loves to bellow out *its modest facts* like "Melbourne is the sporting capital", "AFL is the greatest game", "AFL is the aussie game", "the world is playing AR in record numbers", "the mcg is the worlds best stadium on earth'' (i could go on and on and on lol).

listening gullably to this over the years has seeded into a massive AFL poppy, almost every victorian has it, im lucky i wasnt born where this disibilty is common. the AFL tall poppy casuses victorians to suffer a 'syndrome' when AFL is finally realised to them AR is just a minor sport here in NSW and that tvictorians didnt invent the sky and water isnt AFL players sweat haha

AFL is underneath League and Union and football here. in western sydney Daylight on Europa separates Football above AFL and Rugby League is somewhere outside the solar system way out in front of all...

i live here in sydney, in western sydney, and i can say football, union and league rain supreme over AFL here because thats how it is here, you can only give your opinion thats solely on trying to protect your precious AFL's pride.

214Four wrote:

Beaussie wrote:

NSWAFL wrote:

Oh it's on now! The FFA has kicked United out, and Palmer's formed his own Association in retaliation!

Was just reading about his own Football Australia association. Couldn't help but LOL

What a shambles the FFA and A-League is.

North Queensland Fury folded last season and Gold Coast United this season.

As for talk of a team in western Sydney... anyone remember the Sydney Rovers proposal last year?

The western sydney A-league team will sit perched above the two AFL teams of sydney. Already the excitment in western sydney for this new team is more than what i ever noticed GWS muster up... football is more popular than AFL in sydney & NSW, its just a fact, try to stay humble in ur place AFL.

justanotherleaguefan wrote:

Have you seen the GWS crowds you knob

justanotherleaguefan wrote:

Have you seen the GWS crowds you knob

Xman wrote:

justanotherleaguefan wrote:

Have you seen the GWS crowds you knob

Fancy this comment coming from a RL supporter!

The NRL had 20 games with crowds below 10k last year.

214Four wrote:

Xman wrote:

justanotherleaguefan wrote:

Have you seen the GWS crowds you knob

Fancy this comment coming from a RL supporter!

The NRL had 20 games with crowds below 10k last year.

but were any of them during a clubs inaugural first season and first home games ever?!
GWS fans tried to take credit for the inflated 38,000 crowd that turned out for the opening game as 'proof of success' and that League is dead lol but really a large percentage of that crowd were interstate AFL supportes, swans supporters and just those sydneysiders who were caught in the excitment of the new 'thing'. Now you guys want to make excuses for the bad crowds in blacktown (Councils fault) and try to swing the negative attention towards the so called smallest 'football code' of the top 4. But the GWS supporters have put their foot in it again trying to belittle football and sydney FC. the so called minnows of sydneys and west sydneys sporting landscape (according to some victorian experts) will always be bigger than gws, the swans the AFL up here because footballs heartland is western sydney, 90% of peoples second fav sport is football...

I seriously cannot remember syd fc ever getting 6500 lol

214Four wrote:

I seriously cannot remember syd fc ever getting 6500 lol

TLPG wrote:

214, you are a fool. That 6,500 at Blacktown was more than half the capacity of the venue!

Now as far as soccer goes in Western Sydney - oh sure at the grass roots it's doing okay. But translating it to elite level is already failing! Why? Because on TV even NRL is beating it, and the AFL is thrashing it! In crowd numbers it's even more pronounced! The A League is a joke because none of the grass roots supporters like those at Wentworthville are interested. They stick with what they know and won't support the A League. That says rather a lot don't you think?

Needed to be said.

Beaussie wrote:

NSWAFL wrote:

Oh it's on now! The FFA has kicked United out, and Palmer's formed his own Association in retaliation!

Was just reading about his own Football Australia association. Couldn't help but LOL

What a shambles the FFA and A-League is.

North Queensland Fury folded last season and Gold Coast United this season.

As for talk of a team in western Sydney... anyone remember the Sydney Rovers proposal last year?

NRL&NFLweLaughATafl wrote:

Nothing for you guys to really crow about when AFLs two Qld teams are going terribly.