Talking Footy

Topper wrote:

You really are a fool aren't you?

The raw numbers have already been added up. AFL wins the ratings war.

You called on me to provide AFL leagues outside Australia. I now call on you to provide RL leagues in Darwin, Adelaide and Perth. And you have a long way to go to catch up with the AFL presence in your own heartland. Have you even seen TLPG's website? You aren't busting out at all.

ah..
so when has 122 Million
been bigger then 134 Million .......

you failed miserably with your overseas leagues .... 10 fat ex pats at the park does not a comp make

you can find all the info on the ever growing scene for yourself
Rugby Leagues " Affiliated States "
of VIC , WA, SA , & NT

their website links
NTRL
http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page ... 2008-0-0-0

SARL
http://sarl.leaguenet.com.au/

VRL
http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page ... 2121-0-0-0

WARL
http://warugbyleague.com.au/warl-clubs/

enjoy

Oh boy, I HAVE to address this one!

Raider, stop pulling stuff out of your rear end. Those thugby leagues in the AFL states go nowhere near the AFL presence in your precious heartland! 249 clubs in New South Wales alone! On the overseas stuff, I haven't looked into it as much as Topper has (I just pointed out the pages and left it at that) but in the US at least do you seriously think they'd play for fun? If there's no money in it they don't play it! Even the ex-pats! The same would apply to every league that is affiliated with the AFL!

Oh and talking of number of leagues. Only one in each AFL state for the thugby boys? Ahem - 8 in Queensland, 13 in New South Wales with 9 above the Barassi Line, and not to mention 5 in the Northern Territory! So where are those numbers for your precious game? We've had those numbers in QLD since the 1970's and in New South Wales since the 1980's!

Get it yet? No of course you don't, because you're too stupid to look beyond your stupid little fantasy world!

TLPG wrote:

Oh boy, I HAVE to address this one!

Raider, stop pulling stuff out of your rear end. Those thugby leagues in the AFL states go nowhere near the AFL presence in your precious heartland! 249 clubs in New South Wales alone! On the overseas stuff, I haven't looked into it as much as Topper has (I just pointed out the pages and left it at that) but in the US at least do you seriously think they'd play for fun? If there's no money in it they don't play it! Even the ex-pats! The same would apply to every league that is affiliated with the AFL!

Oh and talking of number of leagues. Only one in each AFL state for the thugby boys? Ahem - 8 in Queensland, 13 in New South Wales with 9 above the Barassi Line, and not to mention 5 in the Northern Territory! So where are those numbers for your precious game? We've had those numbers in QLD since the 1970's and in New South Wales since the 1980's!

Get it yet? No of course you don't, because you're too stupid to look beyond your stupid little fantasy world!

Those thugby leagues in the AFL states go nowhere near the AFL presence in your precious heartland!

who said RL clubs in the " affiliated States " matched the number of giggleball ones in NSW & QLD ?

do you seriously think they'd play for fun? If there's no money in it they don't play it!

of course they play for fun... thats all it is
what are they serious are they ? ..... are they heading up a career path to one day play for the USA in AFL ... its Sh.its & giggles for flogball everywhere apart from Australia .... , just a few ex pats having a kick at the park ... nothing more.

Oh and talking of number of leagues. Only one in each AFL state for the thugby boys? Ahem - 8 in Queensland, 13 in New South Wales with 9 above the Barassi Line, and not to mention 5 in the Northern Territory! So where are those numbers for your precious game? We've had those numbers in QLD since the 1970's and in New South Wales since the 1980's!

while I think it means next to nothing anyway ... the number of people playing RL in the Sthn States is increasing rapidly
the number playing singletball in NSW & QLD is irrelevant , if it did the Lions & Swans would be a lot more popular then they are .. but they are going backwards while the numbers of skinny scrawny white boys playing fumbleball in NSW & QLD has remained steady
so you see ... it doesn't add weight to the argument about which code most Australians prefer to watch
thats WATCH ... not play ...
& thats quite obviously .... Rugby League
get it ?
No of course you don't, because you're too stupid to look beyond your stupid little fantasy world

Raiderdave, do you think the 13 leagues that are affiliated with the AFL would be affiliated if they were playing just for fun? To be affiliated with the AFL, you must be a semi professional competition.

I re-checked the website figures and in fact I was going on the grand final ratings only, which was rather foolish of me. The AFL did win that battle. I shall double check those figures and get back to you on that one.

Do explain to us how a competition can function at the highest elite level with poor numbers in local competitions. This is why playing numbers are very relevant because the more players there are the more competition there is leading to a better product. And the wider the collection range in terms of population the better.

Here we are. The real figures.

AFL: 85,240,000
NRL: 72,905,000

Topper wrote:

Raiderdave, do you think the 13 leagues that are affiliated with the AFL would be affiliated if they were playing just for fun? To be affiliated with the AFL, you must be a semi professional competition.

I re-checked the website figures and in fact I was going on the grand final ratings only, which was rather foolish of me. The AFL did win that battle. I shall double check those figures and get back to you on that one.

Do explain to us how a competition can function at the highest elite level with poor numbers in local competitions. This is why playing numbers are very relevant because the more players there are the more competition there is leading to a better product. And the wider the collection range in terms of population the better

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b]Raiderdave, do you think the 13 leagues that are affiliated with the AFL would be affiliated if they were playing just for fun? To be affiliated with the AFL, you must be a semi professional competition.[/b]

yes for the 30th time ... its sh.its & giggles .. on par with a kids league
you'd pay a rego to have medical expenses covered in case of injury .... & after that its ex pat Vics playing for fun.. nothing more

Do explain to us how a competition can function at the highest elite level with poor numbers in local competitions. This is why playing numbers are very relevant because the more players there are the more competition there is leading to a better product. And the wider the collection range in terms of population the better

480K isn't poor playing numbers ?

& if your theory of participation rates being most important were to be accepted
then soccer would have swamped us all
it hasn't ... because they mean nothing ... not a thing

it is your prefered sport that counts .. the one you will pay to watch live .. or on TV
& in our Country .. Rugby League is most popular

Topper wrote:

Here we are. The real figures.

AFL: 85,240,000
NRL: 72,905,000

no

its rugby League 134,000,000 of which about 120 Million is the NRL
the rest RL rep games etc

AFL, 122,000,000

cased closed

You're lying. I totalled up the figures myself and that's what the total came to.

And you do not include representative games.

Topper wrote:

You're lying. I totalled up the figures myself and that's what the total came to.

And you do not include representative games.

show me a breakdown for those figures ... I'll check your method for you

& yes you do include Rep Games when talking about Rugby League .. the game
& thats all the State of the Union Address by our commander ... David Gallop said

that Rugby League is the most watched sport in Australia
& theres no disputing it is

The breakdown is on this website. Every round and the finals of both the AFL and the NRL.

You do not include the rep games. That's not NRL. That's ARL, which by your own admission is only half of the NRL at the most and in the minority as I have already said. Gallop is a fool and should be replaced if he is lying like this. AFL is the most watched game in Australia and the sooner you accept this the better.

Topper wrote:

The breakdown is on this website. Every round and the finals of both the AFL and the NRL.

Well done Topper. You are indeed correct. Facts will always win the debate. =D>

Topper wrote:

The breakdown is on this website. Every round and the finals of both the AFL and the NRL.

You do not include the rep games. That's not NRL. That's ARL, which by your own admission is only half of the NRL at the most and in the minority as I have already said. Gallop is a fool and should be replaced if he is lying like this. AFL is the most watched game in Australia and the sooner you accept this the better.

You dumbo's really need to get over the nonsense of NRL. It's Rugby League, not just NRL. So when you use to play state of Origin, was that AFL, it was the same game right!!! I do not have to watch a stupid hybrid game because my code is played in the same manner in quite a few countries around the world. Therefore, any game played is part of the count.

AFL ran their State of Origin. NRL do not. A considerable difference. However I would not count it because it is not part of the home and away season for premiership points, or the finals. That is where the basis is for TV rights for example, and it's where most fans have their interest.

Topper wrote:

The breakdown is on this website. Every round and the finals of both the AFL and the NRL.

You do not include the rep games. That's not NRL. That's ARL, which by your own admission is only half of the NRL at the most and in the minority as I have already said. Gallop is a fool and should be replaced if he is lying like this. AFL is the most watched game in Australia and the sooner you accept this the better.

this website ?

the one that shows metro figures mainly
with the vast majority of games .... all H&A games on FTA for starters .. having no regional veiwers included

please
the figures for ALL TV veiwers are these

134 Million RL
122 Million AFL

that is all

As Daniel Green has pointed out regarding tv ratings for the AFL and NRL.

The above figures, of course, only take into account the capital cities, with Oztam ratings - being the currency by which television programs are bought and sold - only measuring the capitals. Most of the Rugby League persuassion would argue that the NRL has a far greater representation in the regional areas than the AFL. This is undoubtably true, with the decentralized states of NSW and Queensland encompassing large regional areas of Rugby League loving folk. But is this regional area, which, in Television terms makes up approximately 30% of the market, enough to claw back the 25 million viewer deficit (and a deficit in viewing time of 115 million hours?) Not by a long way.

http://www.talkingfooty.com/tv_ratings_2011.php