Are AFL supporters more prone to hooliganism?

[Truthsayer]

I work in the security industry, Mr Eliagh. 100 would not cover a sporting venue the size of a rugby league stadium if it was the sole provider of said security.

Again, I request that you cease with your vile language.

[King-Eliagh]

Well thankyou for reading my descriptions of your vile posts anyway. I appreciate it. And also please, you can call me King

Well I still think 100 would be plenty for a place like parramatta stadium. Do you know the organisation that provides security during these nrl matches? I'd really like to know the answer now.

So get back to me on this. Now though, I'd like to get back on topic. I really think AFL supporters are much more prone to hooliganism. Their cheersquads are often fairly rough and I dont know but I guess all that singing and the fanaticism they do is similar to the soccer hooligans. I mean its fine to be passionate but when they become hooligans, like in the clips I've been presenting, then there's a real problem. The AFL need to look into it and quickly before it gets worse.

[Truthsayer]

As I do not work in New South Wales I am in no position to answer your question. Parramatta Stadium would be a venue that holds at least 10,000 people. My experience of soccer venues in Melbourne and the police presence required for large crowds lends to the view that an absolute minimum of 150 would be required. 200 for preference.

I do not agree that AFL supporters are more prone to hooliganism. NRL supporters like those of the Canterbury Bulldogs have a more multicultural mix that is not controlled properly. This led to the issues that made nationwide headlines over their behaviour on Sydney's public transport. AFL club cheer squads have been singing songs and chanting slogans for decades and no one has complained about them. The hooliganism that you are speaking of is very much in the minority, certainly compared to the soccer hooligans who are the worst in the world. Victoria Polica have standing orders to eject hooligans. This is demonstrated by the more public acts of hooliganism at the cricket, such as the Sydney Hill or Bay 13 at the MCG. Ejections are all that is required and it works as well.

The AFL do not have a major problem. You are making a mountain out of a molehill with these references. I am certain that similar things happen in NRL crowds, but they are not uploaded onto You Tube because as Onions noted mobile phones are confiscated in order to preserve the dignity of the NRL game. They want crowds to come to games and they are more sensitive to publication of videos than the AFL are. I believe this to be the correct course of action.

[Raiderdave]

Gentlemen, the AFL have a strong record for reacting to this sort of behaviour. Anyone who engages in it at an AFL game is ejected from the venue by the police and any fighting of the ejection attracts criminal charges. My understanding of the NRL is that they employ security guards, who are far more violent in their own right in ejecting people. I would suggest that this may be a contributing factor to the NRL's low crowd numbers in Sydney and it may also contribute to the NRL's higher admittance fees because they have to pay these men. They don't have to pay the police. A very poor financial decision by the NRL which should be nipped in the bud.

you are an idiot ...... that is all

[Raiderdave]

Well thankyou for reading my descriptions of your vile posts anyway. I appreciate it. And also please, you can call me King

Well I still think 100 would be plenty for a place like parramatta stadium. Do you know the organisation that provides security during these nrl matches? I'd really like to know the answer now.

So get back to me on this. Now though, I'd like to get back on topic. I really think AFL supporters are much more prone to hooliganism. Their cheersquads are often fairly rough and I dont know but I guess all that singing and the fanaticism they do is similar to the soccer hooligans. I mean its fine to be passionate but when they become hooligans, like in the clips I've been presenting, then there's a real problem. The AFL need to look into it and quickly before it gets worse.

another boggerball fan trying to sound like he knows what hes talking about E
cr@p from clay is one term I would use to describe this ones knowledge

[King-Eliagh]

Yes it's a good approach to be short and sweet with these folk i think raider. I mean who on earth does he think he is insinuating I am deterring new members. This isnt fukking "rompus room" on channel nine!

I must say my instincts, which are almost always right, tell me this chump is most probably hammerhead in disguise. Or alternatively it might be AFFP or TLPG.

[Raiderdave]

Yes it's a good approach to be short and sweet with these folk i think raider. I mean who on earth does he think he is insinuating I am deterring new members. This isnt ******* "rompus room" on channel nine!

I must say my instincts, which are almost always right, tell me this chump is most probably hammerhead in disguise. Or alternatively it might be AFFP or TLPG.

hmmmm I dunno . ... this new bloke hasn't made an ounce of sense since he started posting
which is still a lot more then TLPG ever did
so no
its not him

[Beaussie]

I know a lot of you are already aware of my thoughts and worries about the bogan nature of AFL fans but after doing a brief search online I'm concerned these bogans are actually more like your typical soccer hooligans...

Hmm, I take it you missed the following on Channel 9 News last night. What a disgrace rugby league fans are. Hardly surprising I must admit though.

Game called off and referee attacked. Disgraceful.

http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/spe ... ht/xvwxm0p

[Raiderdave]

I know a lot of you are already aware of my thoughts and worries about the bogan nature of AFL fans but after doing a brief search online I'm concerned these bogans are actually more like your typical soccer hooligans...

Hmm, I take it you missed the following on Channel 9 News last night. What a disgrace rugby league fans are. Hardly surprising I must admit though.

Game called off and referee attacked. Disgraceful.

http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/spe ... ht/xvwxm0p

Saw that ... it was a bit wild eh
but unlike your code .... it will be dealt with & dealt with harshly

seeing what Terry Quin was saying ( CEO of the CRL) one of the sides will be kicked out of the group 8 comp altogether .... they're gone

& the fan who attacked the ref .. on top of being charged with assault & will face court as a result
will also be banned for life from attending RL matches .... for life

meanwhile if this happened in the AFL
they'd convene a .. " counselling session " so everyone could discuss their " feelings "
phhhttttttt

[Onions]

Get fucked! We've had players fucking banned for life as well! Fuck, we had a player banned for ten years for just shoving an umpire!! Fucking explain that, dunderhead!

[Truthsayer]

Onions is correct. Google John Bourke. A very nasty incident. AFL does not tolerate such behaviour any more than this rugby league group obviously does. I also refer you to the incident involving Greg Williams, who's push of the umpire wasn't as bad as Bourke's. In fact the umpire involved took some of the blame. And yet Williams was still suspended for eight weeks.

Also, the AFL has not had a spectator attack an umpire on the field of play for some time.

[King-Eliagh]

Yes I can understand it was a bit rough that incident on the news beaussie. I saw it on the news this morning and was interested to hear the news readers on two channels purposefully stating this happens in all codes. I agree.

What I think is particular to the AFL is these violent cheer squads. Beaussie tell us all about how they attacked you for flying your flag. This isnt all about singing and making banners. These cheer squads are a bunch of wacko hooligans who think they are running the game. I've seen it their intensity personally in the Swans carpark one night after a Swans loss. Michael Oloughlin and Adam Goodes were hopping into their four wheel drive when some bloke I'd noticed from the swans cheer squad, just a little more than half pickled on booze, strutted up to the pair and gave them a full verbal assault, stating something along the lines of you pair dont deserve that car and a lot more which I couldnt really make out. He was a sizeable lad and both players were clearly stunned and unsure what this bloke would do next.

It's a concern and I'll repeat, it is different to RL crowd behaviour, there's definitely similarities to the hooliganism in England. They just take things too seriously and things can get out of hand. Just look at the way the AFL lads, especially TLPG, have behaved in here over the last months. Look at Onions for crying out loud! I rest my case.

[Truthsayer]

Mr Eliagh, I would consider your behaviour to be just as bad as Onions so I retain my view that you are a hypocrite.

Cheer squads in the AFL have improved markedly since the practice of positioning themselves along side each other was prohibited. I would not be judging them on the likes of the drunk fan you described, or indeed the most disrespected cheer squad member of them all; Joffa from Collingwood.

I would also inform you that the hooliganism that eminates from England is far far worse. They are prepared to kill people. It is the reason why their fans have been at best severely scrutinised by FIFA at World Cup time. At worst they are banned before a whistle is even blown. This has never happened in Australia in the AFL or even the NRL over the Canterbury Bulldogs fiasco.

[Onions]

Violent cheer squads, Queen E? You've got no fucking idea! Just fucking admit you're a girl with an over fucking sensitive nature to the point of PMT every fucking day!

[King-Eliagh]

I dont care if the hooliganism is worse in England, I just dont want it happening here and I've seen and experienced it at AFL games. It needs to be rubbed out.

Ahh onions how's about you go ahh what did you say you wanted to do to yourself again???

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Yeah I remember, thats right you told yourself to go fuuuck yourself!




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