Talking Footy

Xman wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

Ratings for Fridy night care of MediaweekAus:

NRL: Fri TV: #NRL live Nine/GEM 699k (Syd 374k Mel 15k Bri 308k Ade 2k)

Live NRL in Melbourne is a hit isn't it! what about Adelaide!
Good numbers for Brisbane thought, but hardly surprising given their only NRL team is shown every FN live and are doing very well. I wonder how the non-broncos game rated in Brisbane?


And the AFL: Fri TV: #AFL Seven/7mate 879k (Syd 56k Mel 499k Bri 38k Ade 155k Per 130k)

This is 10% up on the same game last year, and without adding foxtel! =D>

A smashing, and with foxtel still to come. The AFL could get over 1.1mil without FTA regionals! :D The NRL is averaged over only 2 hours too! :P

Note that the AFL rated 94k in Sydney and Brisbane, with foxtel probably another 50-80k.
Meanwhile the NRL rated a massive 17k in Mel/Adel with Perth not appearing to even register!

wow ... how utterly embarrasing for the VFL

its biggest game to date between 2 of its biggest Melbourne clubs
879K metro
250K foxtel
150k regional

1.279 Mill all up

again

less then the 1.306 Mill who watched a game between 1 Sydney side & a regional side in rnd 1 of the NRL
not within cooee of the 1.437 Mill would watched the Storm V Dragons game last year that was only shown in NSW & QLD

AND ... only as much as 2 run of the mill NRL games last night after the regional audience ( which would have topped 500K as both games were shown live simultaneously in Canberra & Newcastle ) were included
of ova 1.2 Million

gee .. when will the VFL win something

Hmm, ok so the AFL have a metro population of 7 mil which rated at around 700k, but their regional population of 2.5 -3m (which includes areas of southern NSW that follow AFL) will only contribute 150k ratings?

Interesting given even Roy masters showed the AFL get around 800k regionals per round despite 700k people in SA and WA not even being counted!

You've lost it Dave! Without FTA regions your 2 live games together, averaged over only 2 hours, gets beaten by the single AFL game to the tune of 400-500k. So unless you're bringing 700-800k regionals (from 5million people) you're losing no matter what!!

again with your dodgey calculations marcus
its about 8 million for the singletball metro ... not 7
& about 2 million for the regionals .. not 3

my ratings match up prefectly with the above

as they do with our 7 Million metro
& 5 Million regional

we win
VFL... numb 2

pussycat wrote:

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1wyuo.html

hmmm, interesting.

Yeah, theyre just repeating Roy Masters article and adding the part about ch10 and 7 bidding. I wouldnt trust Roy masters opinion. He said the AFL would get well under 1 bil

Ch 10 are stuffed and will be lucky to offer small change!

I like this part:

RUGBY LEAGUE is guaranteed a $1.2 billion broadcasting deal, with monopoly pay-TV network Fox Sports declaring it won't be beaten for the five-year rights.

Sounds like a done deal doesn't it.

Yet later in the same article we get:

The existing $500 million six-year deal will certainly be exceeded but in the unlikely event the top bid falls short of $1 billion over five years, the new ARL Commission will probably insist on a short-term deal, knowing broadcasters demand surety in their planning and programming. They will gamble on this strategy driving the broadcasters back to the negotiating table

Hmmm, real confident!

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

wow ... how utterly embarrasing for the VFL

its biggest game to date between 2 of its biggest Melbourne clubs
879K metro
250K foxtel
150k regional

1.279 Mill all up

again

less then the 1.306 Mill who watched a game between 1 Sydney side & a regional side in rnd 1 of the NRL
not within cooee of the 1.437 Mill would watched the Storm V Dragons game last year that was only shown in NSW & QLD

AND ... only as much as 2 run of the mill NRL games last night after the regional audience ( which would have topped 500K as both games were shown live simultaneously in Canberra & Newcastle ) were included
of ova 1.2 Million

gee .. when will the VFL win something

Hmm, ok so the AFL have a metro population of 7 mil which rated at around 700k, but their regional population of 2.5 -3m (which includes areas of southern NSW that follow AFL) will only contribute 150k ratings?

Interesting given even Roy masters showed the AFL get around 800k regionals per round despite 700k people in SA and WA not even being counted!

You've lost it Dave! Without FTA regions your 2 live games together, averaged over only 2 hours, gets beaten by the single AFL game to the tune of 400-500k. So unless you're bringing 700-800k regionals (from 5million people) you're losing no matter what!!

again with your dodgey calculations marcus
its about 8 million for the singletball metro ... not 7
& about 2 million for the regionals .. not 3

my ratings match up prefectly with the above

as they do with our 7 Million metro
& 5 Million regional

we win
VFL... numb 2

Bs. Tasmania is 500k. Victoria is 1.2m outside Geelong and Melbourne. 700k of SA and WA are ignored. That's 2.4m right there. Add parts of southern NSW that are strong AFL towns and the regional audience is much bigger again.

Plus the fact that AFL is FAR stronger in NSW and QLD then you can see why the AFL gets about 800k regional figures per round.

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

wow ... how utterly embarrasing for the VFL

its biggest game to date between 2 of its biggest Melbourne clubs
879K metro
250K foxtel
150k regional

1.279 Mill all up

again

less then the 1.306 Mill who watched a game between 1 Sydney side & a regional side in rnd 1 of the NRL
not within cooee of the 1.437 Mill would watched the Storm V Dragons game last year that was only shown in NSW & QLD

AND ... only as much as 2 run of the mill NRL games last night after the regional audience ( which would have topped 500K as both games were shown live simultaneously in Canberra & Newcastle ) were included
of ova 1.2 Million

gee .. when will the VFL win something

Hmm, ok so the AFL have a metro population of 7 mil which rated at around 700k, but their regional population of 2.5 -3m (which includes areas of southern NSW that follow AFL) will only contribute 150k ratings?

Interesting given even Roy masters showed the AFL get around 800k regionals per round despite 700k people in SA and WA not even being counted!

You've lost it Dave! Without FTA regions your 2 live games together, averaged over only 2 hours, gets beaten by the single AFL game to the tune of 400-500k. So unless you're bringing 700-800k regionals (from 5million people) you're losing no matter what!!

again with your dodgey calculations marcus
its about 8 million for the singletball metro ... not 7
& about 2 million for the regionals .. not 3

my ratings match up prefectly with the above

as they do with our 7 Million metro
& 5 Million regional

we win
VFL... numb 2

So 1.437m was your biggest combined home and away audience last year?

Monday's AFL game peaked at 1.4m in the last quarter without foxtel. Averaging over 3 hours brings it way down. Averaging over two would see this game well and truly cover you highest!

Imagine if the fn involved more than 1 city! Like the westcoast who rate around 100-150k more when the eagles are shown live on FN. that would be over 1mil + 300k foxtel + regionals of around 300k = 1.6m averaged over 3 hours.

No, the 3rd origin match rated? 3.7m? it was more than any of your games anyrate

Test match next week, anoter million + audience =D> =D> =D>

Foxtel results are in

329k

So 1208k total without fta regionals. These should be at least 300k so that's got every home and away nrl game covered easy!

Oh and pussycat, soo isn't home and away nrl. You're getting really desperate now

Your trying to include Pay TV ratings - a completely different system. Yet you regfuse to include regionals , why? - Answer - Because we completly swamp you when all Australians are counted.

Comparing totals is quiet simply ideotic ,It's like the ravings of a lune! 9 televised games to 3 , 9 Pay TV to 5.

Desperatre ????? what type of medication are you on? Whatever it is you need to increase the dosage . Its part part of our superior packagr FFS.

Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that in capital cities

308k people watched the Broncos v Raiders live

391k people watched the Dragons v Knights live

1.15mil people watched Pies v Blues ( assuming 20% of paytv is regionals )

Just wanna check if I'm getting this whole ratings thing right.

pussycat wrote:

Your trying to include Pay TV ratings - a completely different system. Yet you regfuse to include regionals , why? - Answer - Because we completly swamp you when all Australians are counted.

Comparing totals is quiet simply ideotic ,It's like the ravings of a lune! 9 televised games to 3 , 9 Pay TV to 5.

Desperatre ????? what type of medication are you on? Whatever it is you need to increase the dosage . Its part part of our superior packagr FFS.

We need to petition the government to make some harder meds for ppl like Xman, hes becoming immune to his meds and his delusions of grander are getting worse

pussycat wrote:

Your trying to include Pay TV ratings - a completely different system. Yet you regfuse to include regionals , why? - Answer - Because we completly swamp you when all Australians are counted.

Comparing totals is quiet simply ideotic ,It's like the ravings of a lune! 9 televised games to 3 , 9 Pay TV to 5.

Desperatre ????? what type of medication are you on? Whatever it is you need to increase the dosage . Its part part of our superior packagr FFS.

Dope!

People who didn't watch the game on foxtel would have watched it on FTA. It's the same game! Of course you add the figures together!

The fact is both games were shown nation wide and the AFLs single game almost doubled the ratings of the two live and targeted NRL games! =D> =D> the counting for these ratings is done equally and fairly for both codes metro heartlands.

The reason the regionals aren't trustworthy is because they are reported without counting 1.2million fans who live in Tasmania, regional SA and regional WA. If the regionals were counted fairly for all regions the AFL would record about 3/4 the NRLs figure. As it is it's about 2/3rds without counting missing AFL markets. So even if you include them there is no way the NRL can make up a 500k difference!

Got it?

Equally??? metro maybe! I wasnt aware our game was on PTV or that 5.5million of your adience was excluded.

Get off the hoochy cooch, the biggest loser in areas not counted is Qld.

Surely you cant be serious when you suggest the the AFL has 3/4 the regional fans of the NRL. Demetriou has really got you lot brainwashed, Regionals are not accurate - the great AFL myth :D . He treats you lot like mushrooms - kept in the dark and fed bullshit!

2012 RegionalTAM Universe Estimates - Regional Database – Total TV
Markets: Regional QLD, Northern NSW, Southern NSW, Victoria, Tasmania and Regional WA


read on

http://www.thinktv.com.au/content_commo ... eholds.seo

Being a Pom who just got here. What is the go with this whole who is more popular battle?

Surely there is just as much pride for Rugby fans in being a bit dIfferent and supporting the less popular obscure sport?

I know I always took pride on supporting Stevenage who were a non
League side over the big name teams

pussycat wrote:

Equally??? metro maybe! I wasnt aware our game was on PTV or that 5.5million of your adience was excluded.

Get off the hoochy cooch, the biggest loser in areas not counted is Qld.

Surely you cant be serious when you suggest the the AFL has 3/4 the regional fans of the NRL. Demetriou has really got you lot brainwashed, Regionals are not accurate - the great AFL myth :D . He treats you lot like mushrooms - kept in the dark and fed bullshit!

2012 RegionalTAM Universe Estimates - Regional Database – Total TV
Markets: Regional QLD, Northern NSW, Southern NSW, Victoria, Tasmania and Regional WA


http://www.thinktv.com.au/content_commo ... eholds.seo

Didn't I say metro was counted equally? Why are the NRL so far behind on this even count? Are you suggesting the NRL figure would be higher if the showed the same game on foxtel as well? Why? The major reason the AFL ratings have increased is because the games are now live, especially in Perth where they usually had the game delayed by 3hrs. The NRL already have live fn games.

I have shown the yearly regional figures on a number of occasions and they clearly show the AFL gets around 2/3rds the NRLs figure. Are you saying these are wrong?

We also know they exclude regional SA WA and do not cover the NT. These are AFL states and total another million people missing. Therefore at worst the AFL regional figures are better than 2/3rds the NRLs. But as we nave seen so far this year the AFL metro figures are streaks ahead.

The other clear advantage the AFL have is they are more popular in NSW and QLD than the NRL is in AFL states. This years ratings clearly show this! It's obvious why too. The NRL have 1 team in AFL states combined, and despite their domination they're certainly unloved and ignored.

And don't give me this AD crap! He doesn't talk about the ratings to any great degree. Tv revenue is only a moderate proportion of the AFLs revenue. They earn far far more than the NRL in memberships, gate receipts and sponsorship.

pussycat wrote:

Equally??? metro maybe! I wasnt aware our game was on PTV or that 5.5million of your adience was excluded.

Get off the hoochy cooch, the biggest loser in areas not counted is Qld.

Surely you cant be serious when you suggest the the AFL has 3/4 the regional fans of the NRL. Demetriou has really got you lot brainwashed, Regionals are not accurate - the great AFL myth :D . He treats you lot like mushrooms - kept in the dark and fed bullshit!

2012 RegionalTAM Universe Estimates - Regional Database – Total TV
Markets: Regional QLD, Northern NSW, Southern NSW, Victoria, Tasmania and Regional WA


read on

http://www.thinktv.com.au/content_commo ... eholds.seo

Damm Xman is full of it hey

http://www.regionaltam.com.au/#

The link clearly shows the size of the regional areas and it includes all the regional parts of Aus. You can add SA and NA regionals and you will not get close to regional NSW QLD SNSW.
NRL
Total NNSW 2109
Total QLD 1792
Total SNSW 1429
Total = 5330

AFL
Total VIC 1183
Total WA 505
Total TAS 515
Total = 2203

Add SA and NT and you are not close Xman so stop deluding yourself. There is no way you have 2/3 of NRL regionals.

Didn't I say metro was counted equally? Why are the NRL so far behind on this even count? Are you suggesting the NRL figure would be higher if the showed the same game on foxtel as well? Why? The major reason the AFL ratings have increased is because the games are now live, especially in Perth where they usually had the game delayed by 3hrs. The NRL already have live fn games.

I have shown the yearly regional figures on a number of occasions and they clearly show the AFL gets around 2/3rds the NRLs figure. Are you saying these are wrong?

We also know they exclude regional SA WA and do not cover the NT. These are AFL states and total another million people missing. Therefore at worst the AFL regional figures are better than 2/3rds the NRLs. But as we nave seen so far this year the AFL metro figures are streaks ahead.

The other clear advantage the AFL have is they are more popular in NSW and QLD than the NRL is in AFL states. This years ratings clearly show this! It's obvious why too. The NRL have 1 team in AFL states combined, and despite their domination they're certainly unloved and ignored.

And don't give me this AD crap! He doesn't talk about the ratings to any great degree. Tv revenue is only a moderate proportion of the AFLs revenue. They earn far far more than the NRL in memberships, gate receipts and sponsorship.

Metro??? What are you talking about? Have I questioned Metro figures. And as for your thoughts on the makeup of regional ratings – there ridiculous. They are 2/3 for NRL 1/3 for AFL . And When have you ever shown differently?

Maybe you should get someone to read this to you:

2012 RegionalTAM Universe Estimates - Regional Database – Total TV
Markets: Regional QLD, Northern NSW, Southern NSW, Victoria, Tasmania and Regional WA

http://www.regionaltam.com.au/

Rural SA has a population of 400k, which means, based on Adelaides average AFL audience, that your looking at potentially a max of 40k viewers in SA . And, although pretty much evenly divided , the Northern territory would be about halfthat figure again if they all watched AFL. As said before the worst affected area, as far as omissions go is Qld.

There very little difference between Sydney's AFL ratings & Melbourne's Nrl ratings – The Storm are yet to be shown – Try checking out this weeks Test, better still last years Origin numbers And see what the ratings are.

When it comes to spin doctoring Demetriou has no equal. Though you have to be close.

This is the TV ratings thread – all those other issue have been argued ad hock in the relevant threads.