Talking Footy

Xman wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

more money per minute Why didnt you sell more minutes. We still have the highest Australian TV rights deal too.

finding the most watched sport on Australian TV is easy. NRL 113m for 2 hrs. RL 134M for 2 hrs. AFL 131M for 3hrs =D> =D>

Easy!

what & F our comp up completely like the VFL have ?

no thanks
we have the same high quality 16 team comp on TV
& we got it ... for more money then the VFL's 18 teams

wow
what a disaster 2012 is turning out to be for the Victorian game
less money then the NRL for their media rights despite having a 753 Million dollar head start
& less TV veiwers then RL despite pulling every trick in the book to try & win the ratings battle

wow
what a nightmare

Hmmm, the AFL attendance went down by 350 k but ratings went up by 10 Million. Yep, how dissapointing

Meanwhile the NRL stagnated with a 1% increase. Next year they sold control of their comp to ch9

eelofwest wrote:

Xman wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

what & F our comp up completely like the VFL have ?

no thanks
we have the same high quality 16 team comp on TV
& we got it ... for more money then the VFL's 18 teams

wow
what a disaster 2012 is turning out to be for the Victorian game
less money then the NRL for their media rights despite having a 753 Million dollar head start
& less TV veiwers then RL despite pulling every trick in the book to try & win the ratings battle

wow
what a nightmare

Hmmm, the AFL attendance went down by 350 k but ratings went up by 10 Million. Yep, how dissapointing

Meanwhile the NRL stagnated with a 1% increase. Next year they sold control of their comp to ch9

Ratings went up purely because of simulcasting...... =D>

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pussycat wrote:

Rep football in 2011 was roughly 13 million last year and about 15 million this year. The reporter from the Australian has already admitted that the Nrl competition had 113m. But what happens when he factors in rep football numbers?

And our growth, smaller though it may be, didn't involve the introduction of extra matches - the introduction of almost all live matches, nor was our numbers the result of a new coding system that inflated numbers.

In light of those 3 things, I think people like that Australian reporter , desperatly trying to make out that the figures represent some sort of achievment, are the ones running scared.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:09 PM

View PostMr Hands, on 19 September 2012 - 11:42 AM, said:
I still find the figures hard to believe. Every other sport has been effected by simulcast, there must be a reason for the extra viewers because the total viewers seem to be up around 30% even discounting regionals and given that the finals were live last year. It just doesn't make sense that there were that many people not watching then as soon as it's simulcast they start watching.
I might be able to shed some light - I have not been following this discussion closely.
My take on things is that the biggest difference between NOW and LAST YEAR as far as FTA is concerned is that the figure reported for last year's Saturday night game on TEN covers the time 7.30pm to 11.30pm AEST so includes post match. The actual game part of the ratings are not reported.

This year 7 split the ratings for the game into 3 segments. The game got 1,045,000, the pre-match 528,000 and post match 430,000. So the TEN figures are diluted.

The Foxtel 5 city only rating for the game was 343,000

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eelofwest wrote:

Xman wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

what & F our comp up completely like the VFL have ?

no thanks
we have the same high quality 16 team comp on TV
& we got it ... for more money then the VFL's 18 teams

wow
what a disaster 2012 is turning out to be for the Victorian game
less money then the NRL for their media rights despite having a 753 Million dollar head start
& less TV veiwers then RL despite pulling every trick in the book to try & win the ratings battle

wow
what a nightmare

Hmmm, the AFL attendance went down by 350 k but ratings went up by 10 Million. Yep, how dissapointing

Meanwhile the NRL stagnated with a 1% increase. Next year they sold control of their comp to ch9

Ratings went up purely because of simulcasting...... =D>

350k less fans through the turn styles OH MY......................

piesman2011 wrote:

Ratings went up due to more live games. Maybe people got more Fox subs as well and watched more of the games that were not on FTA. But simulcasting doesnt increase ratings its just robbing Peter to pay Paul.

eelofwest wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Ratings went up due to more live games. Maybe people got more Fox subs as well and watched more of the games that were not on FTA. But simulcasting doesnt increase ratings its just robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Clearly not Pies, the simulcast allowed the AFL to have more live games and you just admitted that this is the reason for the ratings jump. The simulcast also adds more broadcasts, 9 games on Fox and 4 Live on FTA you also have a extra game every week so it is easy to see that these gains come from having the extra game every week and simulcasting.

Oh lets not forget the way in which 7 code AFL games now which adds the the delusion of ratings improvements.

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

what & F our comp up completely like the VFL have ?

no thanks
we have the same high quality 16 team comp on TV
& we got it ... for more money then the VFL's 18 teams

wow
what a disaster 2012 is turning out to be for the Victorian game
less money then the NRL for their media rights despite having a 753 Million dollar head start
& less TV veiwers then RL despite pulling every trick in the book to try & win the ratings battle

wow
what a nightmare

but ratings went up by 10 Million.

10 million more veiwers eh
so .......
yuz won the ratings for the year then ?



what


no ....!!!

eelofwest wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Ratings went up due to more live games. Maybe people got more Fox subs as well and watched more of the games that were not on FTA. But simulcasting doesnt increase ratings its just robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Clearly not Pies, the simulcast allowed the AFL to have more live games and you just admitted that this is the reason for the ratings jump. The simulcast also adds more broadcasts, 9 games on Fox and 4 Live on FTA you also have a extra game every week so it is easy to see that these gains come from having the extra game every week and simulcasting.

Oh lets not forget the way in which 7 code AFL games now which adds the the delusion of ratings improvements.

piesman2011 wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

but ratings went up by 10 Million.

10 million more veiwers eh
so .......
yuz won the ratings for the year then ?



what


no ....!!!

How many more watched the RL rep games 15-17 million??


Cummulative viewers comparing AFL V RL/NRL
Regular season TV viewers: 9.3 million more for the AFL regualr season: NRL 114 million AFL 123 million ( AFL win 9.3 million) (see the australian article)
TV viewers RL(regular season + Rep games (15-17 million) V AFL games + preseason (5 million)+ T box viewers (estimate 5 million) RL 129-131 million AFL 134 million (AFL win 3-5 million)
Total viewers TV and at games in OZ see above + 3.3 million NRL + 6.8 million AFL fans at games RL 132-134 million AFL 141 million (AFL win 6.5-8.5 million)
Total viewers TV. mobile phones and at games in OZ: See above + 15 million estimate AFL phone viewers (1 million subs) RL 132-134 million AFL 159 million (AFL win by 25-27 million)
Total viewers TV,mobile phone and at games in OZ and NZ See about + 15 million to RL for NZ viewers, RL 147-148 million AFL 159 million (AFL win by 11-12 million)

A few made up figures .

Raiderdave wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

10 million more veiwers eh
so .......
yuz won the ratings for the year then ?



what


no ....!!!

How many more watched the RL rep games 15-17 million??


Cummulative viewers comparing AFL V RL/NRL
Regular season TV viewers: 9.3 million more for the AFL regualr season: NRL 114 million AFL 123 million ( AFL win 9.3 million) (see the australian article)
TV viewers RL(regular season + Rep games (15-17 million) V AFL games + preseason (5 million)+ T box viewers (estimate 5 million) RL 129-131 million AFL 134 million (AFL win 3-5 million)
Total viewers TV and at games in OZ see above + 3.3 million NRL + 6.8 million AFL fans at games RL 132-134 million AFL 141 million (AFL win 6.5-8.5 million)
Total viewers TV. mobile phones and at games in OZ: See above + 15 million estimate AFL phone viewers (1 million subs) RL 132-134 million AFL 159 million (AFL win by 25-27 million)
Total viewers TV,mobile phone and at games in OZ and NZ See about + 15 million to RL for NZ viewers, RL 147-148 million AFL 159 million (AFL win by 11-12 million)

A few made up figures .

a few ...
try the lot ...............

RL 131 Million veiwers in Aust in 2012
VFL 123 Million

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Raiderdave wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

10 million more veiwers eh
so .......
yuz won the ratings for the year then ?



what


no ....!!!

How many more watched the RL rep games 15-17 million??


Cummulative viewers comparing AFL V RL/NRL
Regular season TV viewers: 9.3 million more for the AFL regualr season: NRL 114 million AFL 123 million ( AFL win 9.3 million) (see the australian article)
TV viewers RL(regular season + Rep games (15-17 million) V AFL games + preseason (5 million)+ T box viewers (estimate 5 million) RL 129-131 million AFL 134 million (AFL win 3-5 million)
Total viewers TV and at games in OZ see above + 3.3 million NRL + 6.8 million AFL fans at games RL 132-134 million AFL 141 million (AFL win 6.5-8.5 million)
Total viewers TV. mobile phones and at games in OZ: See above + 15 million estimate AFL phone viewers (1 million subs) RL 132-134 million AFL 159 million (AFL win by 25-27 million)
Total viewers TV,mobile phone and at games in OZ and NZ See about + 15 million to RL for NZ viewers, RL 147-148 million AFL 159 million (AFL win by 11-12 million)

A few made up figures .

a few ...
try the lot ...............

RL 131 Million veiwers in Aust in 2012
VFL 123 Million

end of

piesman2011 wrote:

eelofwest wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Ratings went up due to more live games. Maybe people got more Fox subs as well and watched more of the games that were not on FTA. But simulcasting doesnt increase ratings its just robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Clearly not Pies, the simulcast allowed the AFL to have more live games and you just admitted that this is the reason for the ratings jump. The simulcast also adds more broadcasts, 9 games on Fox and 4 Live on FTA you also have a extra game every week so it is easy to see that these gains come from having the extra game every week and simulcasting.

Oh lets not forget the way in which 7 code AFL games now which adds the the delusion of ratings improvements.

Have to agree to disagree on this one Eels.

eelofwest wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

eelofwest wrote:

Clearly not Pies, the simulcast allowed the AFL to have more live games and you just admitted that this is the reason for the ratings jump. The simulcast also adds more broadcasts, 9 games on Fox and 4 Live on FTA you also have a extra game every week so it is easy to see that these gains come from having the extra game every week and simulcasting.

Oh lets not forget the way in which 7 code AFL games now which adds the the delusion of ratings improvements.

Have to agree to disagree on this one Eels.

Fair enough. We shall wait and see how the ratings for the simulcasting goes next year to get a better idea on were the ratings jump occurred, but one part we can agree on is the extra live games and extra game every week would have boosted the ratings.