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Rep football in 2011 was roughly 13 million last year and about 15 million this year. The reporter from the Australian has already admitted that the Nrl competition had 113m. But what happens when he factors in rep football numbers?

And our growth, smaller though it may be, didn't involve the introduction of extra matches - the introduction of almost all live matches, nor was our numbers the result of a new coding system that inflated numbers.

In light of those 3 things, I think people like that Australian reporter , desperatly trying to make out that the figures represent some sort of achievment, are the ones running scared.
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Rep football in 2011 was roughly 13 million last year and about 15 million this year. The reporter from the Australian has already admitted that the Nrl competition had 113m. But what happens when he factors in rep football numbers?

And our growth, smaller though it may be, didn't involve the introduction of extra matches - the introduction of almost all live matches, nor was our numbers the result of a new coding system that inflated numbers.

In light of those 3 things, I think people like that Australian reporter , desperatly trying to make out that the figures represent some sort of achievment, are the ones running scared.
Unfortunately rep footy for the NRL is only worth about 10% of the total ratings and like you said rep footy had an increased ratings of 10% then overall this is a increase of about 1% for the total viewers of RL in OZ.
In terms of your 3 points I will say that in terms of new matches the AFL has for about 15+ years now had 22 rounds of X8 matches for a total of 176 matches ( 16 less) compared to the NRL 24 X 8 = 192 matches. A difference of 16 in the favour of the NRL. The AFL now has 22 X 9 for a total of =198 matces (6 more then the NRL season). Its much closer then it use to be. The introduction of a lot more live games has been good for the AFL in terms of TV viewers but poor for crowds. Im not sure about the coding and its infulence. The other thing to remember is that the introduction of two new poorly performing teams has made 2 matches a week generally uncompetative and hopefully this will change as these side's players mature really boosting the ratings more with 9 good games a week compared to currently 7 competative games.
These 3 points (not sure about the coding) are here to stay and with the improvement of the new sides there should be a big boost to the overall ratings hopefully 5-10% every year over the life of the new TV deal. Not to mention the new viewers from non traditional sources such as online, phone and Tbox viewers. Im not sure if there will be much increase in the RL viewership unless there is an increase in a big way to viewers from non traditional states, due to the lack of significant change in the last TV deal. In fact introduction of more online sources may appear to suck viewers away from FTA/Pay TV although the viewers may still be there watching on their phones, computers or tablets.
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In the NRL each team has two byes, take them out its 176. I believe you only have one, so AFL 189 matches . We have similar IT technology. And under new management, proper promotion - we will go ahead in leaps and bounds.

With those 3 factors, I mentioned, no longer being new it will be interesting to see the growth of the AFL's this year - or lack of it.

Maybe the journalist does include rep football, but only counts Metro numbers. Its one or the other. It just a further example of slanted desperation - journalism, from the No 2 code. :wink:
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In the NRL each team has two byes, take them out its 176. I believe you only have one, so AFL 189 matches . We have similar IT technology. And under new management, proper promotion - we will go ahead in leaps and bounds.

With those 3 factors, I mentioned, no longer being new it will be interesting to see the growth of the AFL's this year - or lack of it.

Maybe the journalist does include rep football, but only counts Metro numbers. Its one or the other. It just a further example of slanted desperation - journalism, from the No 2 code. :wink:

I think your stats are incorrect on the NRL I just checked out the end of season ladder and every team played 24 games so I have to go with 24X8 for the NRL season thats 192 matches. Same for the AFL they all play 22 X9 = 198 times the byes are incorporated into the season so for the NRL this makes 26 rounds and the AFL had 23.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NRL_season

Agree that there is nothing new for the AFL next season. Hopefully GSW and GC start to improve and that will hopefully generate more TV viewers with the improvement of those two sides. Time will tell.

Yeah who knows that the journalist from a Sydney based newspaper did :wink: to get his stats. But I would have thought that if those were the metro only stats then the NRL woudl end up with overall 180 million + viewers. The funny thing with these sort of stats is that every time I look for them they seam to be slighty different, not to mention that they are only a poll and therefore inaccurate anyway.
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In the NRL each team has two byes, take them out its 176. I believe you only have one, so AFL 189 matches . We have similar IT technology. And under new management, proper promotion - we will go ahead in leaps and bounds.

With those 3 factors, I mentioned, no longer being new it will be interesting to see the growth of the AFL's this year - or lack of it.

Maybe the journalist does include rep football, but only counts Metro numbers. Its one or the other. It just a further example of slanted desperation - journalism, from the No 2 code. :wink:
like the unbiased articles from Roy Masters? :roll:

NRL teams have 24 home and away games a year, totalling 192, plus 9 finals. More than the AFL :roll:
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Xman wrote:
pussycat wrote:
In the NRL each team has two byes, take them out its 176. I believe you only have one, so AFL 189 matches . We have similar IT technology. And under new management, proper promotion - we will go ahead in leaps and bounds.

With those 3 factors, I mentioned, no longer being new it will be interesting to see the growth of the AFL's this year - or lack of it.

Maybe the journalist does include rep football, but only counts Metro numbers. Its one or the other. It just a further example of slanted desperation - journalism, from the No 2 code. :wink:
like the unbiased articles from Roy Masters? :roll:

NRL teams have 24 home and away games a year, totalling 192, plus 9 finals. More than the AFL :roll:

Disagree Xman the AFL now has slighty more due to 9 games a round for 22 rounds + 9 finals = 6 more for the AFL for the regular season.
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piesman2011 wrote:
Xman wrote:
pussycat wrote:
In the NRL each team has two byes, take them out its 176. I believe you only have one, so AFL 189 matches . We have similar IT technology. And under new management, proper promotion - we will go ahead in leaps and bounds.

With those 3 factors, I mentioned, no longer being new it will be interesting to see the growth of the AFL's this year - or lack of it.

Maybe the journalist does include rep football, but only counts Metro numbers. Its one or the other. It just a further example of slanted desperation - journalism, from the No 2 code. :wink:
like the unbiased articles from Roy Masters? :roll:

NRL teams have 24 home and away games a year, totalling 192, plus 9 finals. More than the AFL :roll:

Disagree Xman the AFL now has slighty more due to 9 games a round for 22 rounds + 9 finals = 6 more for the AFL for the regular season.
now it is yes. I was referring to previous seasons.
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piesman2011 wrote:
pussycat wrote:
In the NRL each team has two byes, take them out its 176. I believe you only have one, so AFL 189 matches . We have similar IT technology. And under new management, proper promotion - we will go ahead in leaps and bounds.

With those 3 factors, I mentioned, no longer being new it will be interesting to see the growth of the AFL's this year - or lack of it.

Maybe the journalist does include rep football, but only counts Metro numbers. Its one or the other. It just a further example of slanted desperation - journalism, from the No 2 code. :wink:

I think your stats are incorrect on the NRL I just checked out the end of season ladder and every team played 24 games so I have to go with 24X8 for the NRL season thats 192 matches. Same for the AFL they all play 22 X9 = 198 times the byes are incorporated into the season so for the NRL this makes 26 rounds and the AFL had 23.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NRL_season

Agree that there is nothing new for the AFL next season. Hopefully GSW and GC start to improve and that will hopefully generate more TV viewers with the improvement of those two sides. Time will tell.

Yeah who knows that the journalist from a Sydney based newspaper did :wink: to get his stats. But I would have thought that if those were the metro only stats then the NRL woudl end up with overall 180 million + viewers. The funny thing with these sort of stats is that every time I look for them they seam to be slighty different, not to mention that they are only a poll and therefore inaccurate anyway.
The results are always different because the AFL only choose to measure up against parts of the NRL. Whether its be rep football or regional fans there always leaving something out to paint themselves in a better light.
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pussycat wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
pussycat wrote:
In the NRL each team has two byes, take them out its 176. I believe you only have one, so AFL 189 matches . We have similar IT technology. And under new management, proper promotion - we will go ahead in leaps and bounds.

With those 3 factors, I mentioned, no longer being new it will be interesting to see the growth of the AFL's this year - or lack of it.

Maybe the journalist does include rep football, but only counts Metro numbers. Its one or the other. It just a further example of slanted desperation - journalism, from the No 2 code. :wink:

I think your stats are incorrect on the NRL I just checked out the end of season ladder and every team played 24 games so I have to go with 24X8 for the NRL season thats 192 matches. Same for the AFL they all play 22 X9 = 198 times the byes are incorporated into the season so for the NRL this makes 26 rounds and the AFL had 23.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NRL_season

Agree that there is nothing new for the AFL next season. Hopefully GSW and GC start to improve and that will hopefully generate more TV viewers with the improvement of those two sides. Time will tell.

Yeah who knows that the journalist from a Sydney based newspaper did :wink: to get his stats. But I would have thought that if those were the metro only stats then the NRL woudl end up with overall 180 million + viewers. The funny thing with these sort of stats is that every time I look for them they seam to be slighty different, not to mention that they are only a poll and therefore inaccurate anyway.
The results are always different because the AFL only choose to measure up against parts of the NRL. Whether its be rep football or regional fans there always leaving something out to paint themselves in a better light.
#-o Says the guy who only talks TV ratings and ignores the massive advantage the AFL have in crowds, sponsors, memberships, national coverage

When the NRL is compared to the AFL the AFL wins easily.

When ARL is compared to the AFL the AFL still wins becasue every AFL fan counted in the cumulative total watches for 50% longer meaning the AFL is easily the most watched sport on TV.
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Xman wrote:
pussycat wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:

I think your stats are incorrect on the NRL I just checked out the end of season ladder and every team played 24 games so I have to go with 24X8 for the NRL season thats 192 matches. Same for the AFL they all play 22 X9 = 198 times the byes are incorporated into the season so for the NRL this makes 26 rounds and the AFL had 23.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NRL_season

Agree that there is nothing new for the AFL next season. Hopefully GSW and GC start to improve and that will hopefully generate more TV viewers with the improvement of those two sides. Time will tell.

Yeah who knows that the journalist from a Sydney based newspaper did :wink: to get his stats. But I would have thought that if those were the metro only stats then the NRL woudl end up with overall 180 million + viewers. The funny thing with these sort of stats is that every time I look for them they seam to be slighty different, not to mention that they are only a poll and therefore inaccurate anyway.
The results are always different because the AFL only choose to measure up against parts of the NRL. Whether its be rep football or regional fans there always leaving something out to paint themselves in a better light.
#-o Says the guy who only talks TV ratings and ignores the massive advantage the AFL have in crowds, sponsors, memberships, national coverage

When the NRL is compared to the AFL the AFL wins easily.

When ARL is compared to the AFL the AFL still wins becasue every AFL fan counted in the cumulative total watches for 50% longer meaning the AFL is easily the most watched sport on TV.
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every trick in the book pulled ..... & this mob still get Silver
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Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
pussycat wrote:
The results are always different because the AFL only choose to measure up against parts of the NRL. Whether its be rep football or regional fans there always leaving something out to paint themselves in a better light.
#-o Says the guy who only talks TV ratings and ignores the massive advantage the AFL have in crowds, sponsors, memberships, national coverage

When the NRL is compared to the AFL the AFL wins easily.

When ARL is compared to the AFL the AFL still wins becasue every AFL fan counted in the cumulative total watches for 50% longer meaning the AFL is easily the most watched sport on TV.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

every trick in the book pulled ..... & this mob still get Silver
yes , its embarrasing & the vfl cheerleaders in here are feelin the shame & butthurt :cool:

RL is KING yet again
WOW
just WOW =D> =D> =D>

I don't know what else the victorian game could have done to try & win
ah well ... :lol: :lol: :lol:
RL actually wins....nothing. :cry:
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So Dave you ready to conceed that the Australian newspaper didn't include the AFL preseason comp in its cumulative ratings??? Or are you going to sprout more dribble? Come on be a man for once in your life and say admit you were wrong. Or will you keep digging your hole and keep telling yourself it is the fastest way to china.
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Welcome aboard Tom Waterhouse.

The latest sponsorship deal , rumoured to be 10m a year over 5 years!
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Welcome aboard Tom Waterhouse.

The latest sponsorship deal , rumoured to be 10m a year over 5 years!
I didnt realise he worked for a TV network :roll:
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piesman2011 wrote:
So Dave you ready to conceed that the Australian newspaper didn't include the AFL preseason comp in its cumulative ratings??? Or are you going to sprout more dribble? Come on be a man for once in your life and say admit you were wrong. Or will you keep digging your hole and keep telling yourself it is the fastest way to china.
What the?

The Toyota Cup games rate about the same as the Super rugby games on Fox and we have way more Toyota cup games to add so up to you, you add Pre season we add Toyota cup and its Game over and by a larger Margin.......... :lol: :lol:

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2011/07/pay ... ek-27.html
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http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2011/06/pay ... ek-24.html
37 Live: Rugby League: Toyota Cup FOX Sports 2 72

Let me know Pies if you want me to Add our Toyota cup ratings which actually rate more then some AFL games and super rugby games on Fox.................. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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