Not Long Now!

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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:25 pm
The_Wookie wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:00 pm
Fred wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:07 pm
To be fair wookie cumulative totals for a code is pointless. Saying fur example that 1 million people watch a show in a year means it is more popular than a show that had half a million viewers is silly if one show had 1000 esipodes and the other 10 for instance.
Except thats not what we are talking about. Were talking about more than 230 game broadcasts per code.

Over the course of a home and away season there is literally a 6 game difference (192-198). They both play the same amount of finals. With Origin, that pegs back to 3 games. Another 6 rep fixtures and they lead by 3.

Throw in the preseason, and the AFL added 26 games to 3 NRL preseason broadcasts and 3 Nines broadcasts. I also include the Womens Exhibition, and EJ Whitten Games, as well as the Brownlow broadcasts for the AFL, and the Dally M for the NRL.

Total AFL games exceed NRL games by 24 broadcasts over the course of 2016. The AFL lost cumulative ratings over 122 million to 125 million in Australia alone. (122m to 131m when including NZ)

Thats reality.

Break it down anyway you like. It doesnt matter a whit.
Geez.. Thank goodness you came into this thread and put some sense into it...

yep couldn't of stated it any better.
Well it certainly gives us all some extra free time on the weekend now that comparing weekly ratings has been declared cherry picking and a waste of time. Bring on October and the NRL's victory
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The_Wookie wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:01 pm
NlolRL wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:13 pm


One less game is a small reduction overall for each round. Showing two games at once halves the audience. Do that 3 times over the weekend and 6 games effectively become 3.

If the NRL is more popular on TV why does it get outrated on Friday night virtually 3-1?
When did Friday Night become the be all and end all?
Since its the only match played in isolation consistently. How do we compare any other game of the round when theyre only shown to part of our market on FTA, and against another game?

You claim our extra game on FTA per round offsets our concurrent games. I call BS. Our extra FTA game is Saturday arvo, the poorest rating game of all. The advantage it provides is nowhere near enough to cover the split ratings for 8 games shown against each other
The_Wookie wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:01 pm
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Well it certainly gives us all some extra free time on the weekend now that comparing weekly ratings has been declared cherry picking and a waste of time. Bring on October and the NRL's victory
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Geez it's hard to accept that Rl is the most watched sport .
Better luck this year .
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AFLcrap1 wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:05 pm
Lol
Geez it's hard to accept that Rl is the most watched sport .
Better luck this year .
wont need luck. With the current scheduling there's no way the AFL can achieve a higher season tally. And now that achieving higher rating individual games means nothing I suppose AFL fans might as well get used to it now
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The_Wookie wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:12 pm
You dont just compare one match in a round and carry on like you are the fucking champion.
Says who? If the AFL have a game that outrates the NRLs best match on 17 of the 23 rounds why shouldnt we carry on?
Fair enough. After all I call pretty much everything you write BS.
Given you think the season tally is the be all and end all I can understand why
As well as local perth, Adelaide, Brisbane and Sydney Coverage. Dont leave that out.
Well unlike the NRL we cant play a single game that appeals to our major homelands like the NRL can with Broncos v Sydney team
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Friday
1. you don't play your bottom teams.
2. the extra hour works against the NRL
3. the opening matches and the final matches are our best rating matches. If you look at the open matches it is 5 to 7 . During the Origin period our matches get about 6 or 7 million and our representative players make a further $10m.

Saturday
The average RLeagu fan can watch 0 FTA Matches on Saturday.
The average AFL player can watch 2 FTA matches on a Saturday

As you know ,only 30% of viewers have PTV . An NRL viewer can watch 3. But there would probably be lucky if 10% of that 30% would watch all 3.

And your post about Saturday Night getting 1 million You benefit by showing matches into there own state rarely happens NlolRL.... enjoy that silver :cheers:
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pussycat wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:48 pm
Friday
1. you don't play your bottom teams.
Incorrect. Essendon were bottom last year and played on Friday Twice. Carlton were bottom in 2015 and played the opening round, as they will next week. How many times did the Knights and Tigers play on Thursday or Friday night last year? I'd suggest it was pretty close to the same number
2. the extra hour works against the NRL
That's utter horseshit. Shorter telecasts benefit in rayings
3. the opening matches and the final matches are our best rating matches. If you look at the open matches it is 5 to 7 . During the Origin period our matches get about 6 or 7 million and our representative players make a further $10m.
And when I included your early rounds you lost easily. When I included your late rounds you lost easily
Saturday
The average RLeagu fan can watch 0 FTA Matches on Saturday.
The average AFL player can watch 2 FTA matches on a Saturday
The AFL have 5 games on Saturday but the maximum any AFL fan can watch is 3 games. The NRL have 3 games and NRL fans can watch all of them. Yes ours are FTA, but Melbourne's game is on delay. The NRL also get Thursday night on FTA which we dont have (other than a couple)
As you know ,only 30% of viewers have PTV . An NRL viewer can watch 3. But there would probably be lucky if 10% of that 30% would watch all 3.
Why? Its only 6 hours. Thats only 2 matches for us. If your claim is true how many AFL fans would watch 9 hours for 3 games on Saturday?
And your post about Saturday Night getting 1 million You benefit by showing matches into there own state rarely happens
you mean like playing the Broncos prime time on FTA 14 out of 23 weeks? :roll:

Fact is you have over 200 home and away games to pick your best rating games, so in no way is this cherry picking. None of your games get over 1.3m compared to our 4 times. We have 7 games over 1.2m compared to your 2. We have 17 games over 1.1m compared to your 5.

Face it, we have a bigger TV audience
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Lol
A bigger audience
The numbers don't lie
Our audience is a few million bigger than yours .
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AFLcrap1 wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:04 pm
Lol
A bigger audience
The numbers don't lie
Our audience is a few million bigger than yours .
Thats what higher rating games show, larger audience. What else do you think they show?
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Nrl or rl ?
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NlolRL wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:09 pm
AFLcrap1 wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:04 pm
Lol
A bigger audience
The numbers don't lie
Our audience is a few million bigger than yours .
Thats what higher rating games show, larger audience. What else do you think they show?

NlolRL IF The AFL had a Match bigger than there H&A season like R.L does with SOO

do you think it would have affect on your middle rounds of AFL football ??

as SOO gets upwards of 4 million per game...

affecting figures, therefore Friday becomes less of an Event..
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NlolRL wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:32 pm
pussycat wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:48 pm
Friday
1. you don't play your bottom teams.
Incorrect. Essendon were bottom last year and played on Friday Twice. Carlton were bottom in 2015 and played the opening round, as they will next week. How many times did the Knights and Tigers play on Thursday or Friday night last year? I'd suggest it was pretty close to the same number
2. the extra hour works against the NRL
That's utter horseshit. Shorter telecasts benefit in rayings
3. the opening matches and the final matches are our best rating matches. If you look at the open matches it is 5 to 7 . During the Origin period our matches get about 6 or 7 million and our representative players make a further $10m.
And when I included your early rounds you lost easily. When I included your late rounds you lost easily
Saturday
The average RLeagu fan can watch 0 FTA Matches on Saturday.
The average AFL player can watch 2 FTA matches on a Saturday
The AFL have 5 games on Saturday but the maximum any AFL fan can watch is 3 games. The NRL have 3 games and NRL fans can watch all of them. Yes ours are FTA, but Melbourne's game is on delay. The NRL also get Thursday night on FTA which we dont have (other than a couple)
As you know ,only 30% of viewers have PTV . An NRL viewer can watch 3. But there would probably be lucky if 10% of that 30% would watch all 3.
Why? Its only 6 hours. Thats only 2 matches for us. If your claim is true how many AFL fans would watch 9 hours for 3 games on Saturday?
And your post about Saturday Night getting 1 million You benefit by showing matches into there own state rarely happens
you mean like playing the Broncos prime time on FTA 14 out of 23 weeks? :roll:

Fact is you have over 200 home and away games to pick your best rating games, so in no way is this cherry picking. None of your games get over 1.3m compared to our 4 times. We have 7 games over 1.2m compared to your 2. We have 17 games over 1.1m compared to your 5.

Face it, we have a bigger TV audience
You have your mind made up, Any facts or reason go in one ear and out the other!

4 to 7 pre origin - hardly, nearly all or whatever as you try make out.

As I was talking about ratings I think it was pretty clear I was talking about your worst 25% rating sides.

West tigers play in 4 matches.


On matches played at night we have 3 on wed/n, 12 more than you on Th/n, 3 more than you Fri., 23 less Sat/N as well you had another two on a Mon/N.
by my count we both had about 23 club matches over 1m.

An day time matches near trebled that difference.

About 80% of our matches devoted to club football. and as I said earlier we had 4 matches over 3m, how about you?

Only 30% of people have fox less have the sports pack and less still watch more than a few games

I don't know about you, but if 2 teams are playing on PTV that I have little interest , NZ v Penr, I have to turn it off , I have no choice and do something else. An AFL fan has a choice. You also have an extra game each week .why you might have some disadvantage in this area they very minischule. and certainly donnt compare to the extra FTA matches you have
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And at Seasons end we were 6m ahead without counting ratings from our 16th team - NZ. :rock: :rock: :rock: :cheers:
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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:49 am
NlolRL wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:09 pm
AFLcrap1 wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:04 pm
Lol
A bigger audience
The numbers don't lie
Our audience is a few million bigger than yours .
Thats what higher rating games show, larger audience. What else do you think they show?

NlolRL IF The AFL had a Match bigger than there H&A season like R.L does with SOO

do you think it would have affect on your middle rounds of AFL football ??

as SOO gets upwards of 4 million per game...

affecting figures, therefore Friday becomes less of an Event..
the AFL would never compromise the AFL season to run a rep series.

Having said that I accounted for the SOO effected rounds in my comparison by eliminating them, and the AFL still came out well ahead
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pussycat wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:02 am
You have your mind made up, Any facts or reason go in one ear and out the other!

4 to 7 pre origin - hardly, nearly all or whatever as you try make out.

As I was talking about ratings I think it was pretty clear I was talking about your worst 25% rating sides.

West tigers play in 4 matches.


On matches played at night we have 3 on wed/n, 12 more than you on Th/n, 3 more than you Fri., 23 less Sat/N as well you had another two on a Mon/N.
by my count we both had about 23 club matches over 1m.

An day time matches near trebled that difference.

About 80% of our matches devoted to club football. and as I said earlier we had 4 matches over 3m, how about you?

Only 30% of people have fox less have the sports pack and less still watch more than a few games

I don't know about you, but if 2 teams are playing on PTV that I have little interest , NZ v Penr, I have to turn it off , I have no choice and do something else. An AFL fan has a choice. You also have an extra game each week .why you might have some disadvantage in this area they very minischule. and certainly donnt compare to the extra FTA matches you have
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And at Seasons end we were 6m ahead without counting ratings from our 16th team - NZ. :rock: :rock: :rock: :cheers:
I dont even understand half the stuff you state above. It's a;; over the place.

Bottom line is you have 200 odd games in your Home and away season to chose from, many involving top clubs, and many involving your biggest club who had a great year again. Yet none of you matches exceeded 1.3m and only a few exceeded 1.1m. Where as we had many.

This is the clearest indication that the AFL is more popular on TV, while the NRL merely has more available content
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NlolRL wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:12 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:49 am
NlolRL wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:09 pm


Thats what higher rating games show, larger audience. What else do you think they show?

NlolRL IF The AFL had a Match bigger than there H&A season like R.L does with SOO

do you think it would have affect on your middle rounds of AFL football ??

as SOO gets upwards of 4 million per game...

affecting figures, therefore Friday becomes less of an Event..
the AFL would never compromise the AFL season to run a rep series.

Having said that I accounted for the SOO effected rounds in my comparison by eliminating them, and the AFL still came out well ahead

The AFL has already tried [-(
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