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Re: AFL Fans Very Accepting of Indigenous Culture

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:47 pm
by leagueiscrap
King-Eliagh wrote:
Xman wrote:
King-Eliagh wrote:
It's unprecedented for goodes and it's begun happening directly after he made a stand against the lil racist girl. Fact is Literally thousands of AFL fans took to social media and said he shouldn't have hurt that poor lik racist girl.
utter rot based on nothing but your imagination
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it was millions that took to social media to suggest goodes shouldn't have stood up against that racist girl the way he did?

Xman answer this so the members know where you're coming from.

Do you or do you not think goodes went about bringing that little girls racist comment to national attention was a good thing?
oi king of the basement dwellers
stop dancing around and ignoring my post & just answer the simple straight forward question

"If they were booing Goodes because of his indigenous heritage, wouldn't they be booing Jetta as well?
They are booing Goodes due to him being a diving whinging sook" :)))

Re: AFL Fans Very Accepting of Indigenous Culture

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:44 am
by BruceOfRedfernNSW
I do not recall Adam Goodes, in any media interview, calling his goal celebration a WAR DANCE.

When asked in his on-field interview what it was all about, he casually explained that it was just something he learned to do in the Under-16 Boomerangs.

He did not use the words WAR DANCE.

Some media, including the Fox Footy commentators immediately called it a WAR DANCE.

So here's a challenge to you Fight Club curmudgeons:
Show me evidence that Adam Goodes personally used the words WAR DANCE in his media interviews and post it here.

I'll bet such evidence doesn't exist.

I saw the dance as a Dance of Triumph, just like Michael O'Lauchlin's 2006-Qualifying-Final roar at West Coast fans, or GI's spectacular goanna-crawl, or any number of other theatrical performances.

Re: AFL Fans Very Accepting of Indigenous Culture

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:39 am
by AFLcrap1
Lol .
Bruce got owned

Re: AFL Fans Very Accepting of Indigenous Culture

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:22 am
by BruceOfRedfernNSW
The_Wookie wrote:
Goodes didnt learn it in the under 16s, he saw the under 16s do it and copied it.

Further the Age quotes him as saying its a warcry

"It's completely an Indigenous Round thing," he said. "I played 357 games before this one. How many dance and war cries have you seen me do? This was an opportunity and it might be my only opportunity to do this.

"I was just grateful to be able to do it and for the right people to be able to embrace it for what it was. Everybody else, take a chill pill, understand what I was doing. If there was Carlton supporters offended by it, I'm sorry, but it's a war cry, it's a battle. It's supposed to intimidate you, it's supposed to say 'This is who we are. Come at us'."
http://www.theage.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/a ... hd29k.html
Thanks, Wookie.

(.... and congrats to the Navy Blues. So close to beating the Crows on w/e. A nail biter, that was.)

So we have an Age story quoting Goodes calling it a war cry. Exhibit 1.

Does anyone recall a TV interview when Goodes called it a WAR DANCE ?

Re: AFL Fans Very Accepting of Indigenous Culture

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:37 am
by docker24
Anyone congratulating the blues on a close loss is a worrying sign.

Re: AFL Fans Very Accepting of Indigenous Culture

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:40 pm
by BruceOfRedfernNSW
docker24 wrote:
Anyone congratulating the blues on a close loss is a worrying sign.
I just love a good game of footy, Docker. Whoever wins. And let's face it, Carlton's been doin' it a bit tough lately. They needed something to lift their spirits a bit.

And the fans'. Just look at the Wook. He's been so cranky lately he's ready to bite his own head off.

You must feel a bit outta sorts after the Tigers did a job on your mob Friday night.

Re: AFL Fans Very Accepting of Indigenous Culture

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:04 pm
by King-Eliagh
The_Wookie wrote:
King-Eliagh wrote:
This has been going on and is the impetus behind the increased booing, not his playing style which having seen him play over the past ten years has not changed significantly at all.

If anyone has a prob with the way goodes is reacting they should refocus on what's wrong with that lil racist girl instead and why racist Eddie continues to sit pretty making millions a year while making racist gaffes, not on goodes as Xman is doing in this thread, along with thousands of other AFL fans.

It's deplorable behaviour of those with narrow minds. Boooooo.

;)
You can fuck of with the generalisations and stereotyping. You literally know nothing about the minds of people involved but assume that all involved are of the same hive mind. Fuck you and people like you.
Ahh, how's about you dry those eyes, turn that frown upside down and stfu until you can prove I've stated all AFL fans are racists. *ke dusts hands - there that should be one less knob brain trying to alter the true argument being put forward.

On the contrary I've said clearly suggested several times that it is not all who are racist.

Grow up wookie yA big sook.

;)

Re: AFL Fans Very Accepting of Indigenous Culture

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:11 pm
by King-Eliagh
leagueiscrap wrote:
King-Eliagh wrote:
Xman wrote:
King-Eliagh wrote:
It's unprecedented for goodes and it's begun happening directly after he made a stand against the lil racist girl. Fact is Literally thousands of AFL fans took to social media and said he shouldn't have hurt that poor lik racist girl.
utter rot based on nothing but your imagination
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it was millions that took to social media to suggest goodes shouldn't have stood up against that racist girl the way he did?

Xman answer this so the members know where you're coming from.

Do you or do you not think goodes went about bringing that little girls racist comment to national attention was a good thing?
oi king of the basement dwellers
stop dancing around and ignoring my post & just answer the simple straight forward question

"If they were booing Goodes because of his indigenous heritage, wouldn't they be booing Jetta as well?
They are booing Goodes due to him being a diving whinging sook" :)))
1) stop drinking metho
2) go back to school, finish to grade 6 level at least
3) re read thread, and think. your answer has been provided on numerous occasions.

;)

Re: AFL Fans Very Accepting of Indigenous Culture

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:07 pm
by King-Eliagh
No, you grow up.

I'm discussing a serious issue and fellow serious discourse analysts with brains like Waleed ali are in total alignment with my arguments. Just because You and your dunderhead brained AFL brainwashed merinos can't understand the nuances behind racism and its many forms in sociocultural movements doesn't mean yA gotta be all oppositional defiant on us. Just listen, and try to understand and learn sometin matey. :cheers:

Re: AFL Fans Very Accepting of Indigenous Culture

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:38 am
by King-Eliagh
The_Wookie wrote:
You are trying to tell us that thousands of AFL supporters are racists. Im telling you to fuck off.
And I'm right. There's gotta be a 1% chance Theres not between two thousand and 999 thousand racists AFL fans. And If I'm wrong? there's millions so take ur cranky pants ass to the dunces corner wookie!

Furthermore, you and Xman could be two of em. Given ur assured stance that michael long does not have the quals to be a board member without likely having ever met the bloke, seem his resume etc, along with the pair of yas being so sure that NOT ONE single goodes booer is started booing him because they think what Eddie and the little racist girl said are fine...Jesus, and you pair reckon I'm stereotyping?

How's about you fuck off wook?

We don't need no cranky pants round ere. And we definitely don't need no cranky pants racists round here.

;)

Re: AFL Fans Very Accepting of Indigenous Culture

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:09 pm
by King-Eliagh
Hey bro, I've put a very wide margin on my educated estimates. You and Xman have flatly denied that even one AFL fan has taken up the booing because they support Eddie and that racist girls viewpoints.

I'm afraid the chances of me being right are infitessiminally more than you and Xman here bro.

Deal with it, or...fuck off.

:lol:

Re: AFL Fans Very Accepting of Indigenous Culture

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:16 pm
by King-Eliagh
The_Wookie wrote:
Never mind that at countless other games on the weekend featuring more than 60 players, not a single other aboriginal player was booed. Not one. Theres a reason this is limited to Goodes, but it doesnt quite fit your narrative.

For the record, I have met Michael Long
Ahhh I've already explained this dipshit. Goodes is the aboriginal player of this generation who is standing up to what they call casual racism (don't worry you don't know what that means). So don't gimme the dumb pathetic six year old argument of "then why aren't the other aboriginal player getting booed". Ffs how dumb are you? Re read entire thread again wookie.

And whoopdidoo you've met michael long, youve still decided he don't have the credentials when he believes he does. Id bet you don't know him well but have still taken the stance that he don't have the cred to be on the board so don't give me your ridiculous 'have you taken a survey' argument again dipshit.

Got it?

Good :cool:

Re: AFL Fans Very Accepting of Indigenous Culture

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:02 pm
by Xman
King-Eliagh wrote:
Hey bro, I've put a very wide margin on my educated estimates. You and Xman have flatly denied that even one AFL fan has taken up the booing because they support Eddie and that racist girls viewpoints.

I'm afraid the chances of me being right are infitessiminally more than you and Xman here bro.

Deal with it, or...fuck off.

:lol:
for the third time I will ask, what did Eddie do to support the girls racist comment?

So your claim here is fans arent booing Goodes because he is aboriginal, it's because he stood up to racism. Is that it? If so, why dont they boo every other AFL player and official who support the AFL's racial vilification policy?

Re: AFL Fans Very Accepting of Indigenous Culture

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:41 pm
by docker24
BruceOfRedfernNSW wrote:
docker24 wrote:
Anyone congratulating the blues on a close loss is a worrying sign.
I just love a good game of footy, Docker. Whoever wins. And let's face it, Carlton's been doin' it a bit tough lately. They needed something to lift their spirits a bit.

And the fans'. Just look at the Wook. He's been so cranky lately he's ready to bite his own head off.

You must feel a bit outta sorts after the Tigers did a job on your mob Friday night.
Yeah poor blues, no micky, build up on losses and now Judd is finished.

You mean sunday afternoon? worse performance I have seen port play since 2012, but then again the tigers were outstanding.

Beating port and freo on the road. this years dark horse?

Re: AFL Fans Very Accepting of Indigenous Culture

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:46 pm
by AFLcrap1
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015 ... -down-kids


11 Jun 2015 - 9:00am
Racism in AFL 'reaches right down to kids'

As the AFL continues its campaign to get rid of racial abuse in the game, local football leagues are also battling to contain racism at the amateur level.

The Sunshine Heights Football Club north of Melbourne says age is no barrier when it comes to racial slurs.

It says players in its under-13s team often face abuse at the weekend.

And as Abby Dinham reports, one coach is calling for action.

Sport can bring out the best in people, but also the worst.

The coach of the Sunshine Heights under-13s AFL team, Ren Olivieri, says his side endures racial abuse in at least one game out of three.

"I've had some of my team in tears not once, not twice, it's happened multiple, multiple times. It's something that we as a community, that we as Australians, have to change."

And he says it is not just the players hurling the insults.

"It wasn't just a kid, it wasn't just a parent, it wasn't (just) the coach. It came from every angle. I can't say no more how bad it was. I feel it's also an education of winning and losing. These kids are taught, if they lose, it's the end of the world, you know, they're going to get treated badly, so they come out with the most negative things."

It is an issue the Western Region Football League is taking seriously.

Coach Olivieri says offenders are called before tribunals but players can be hesistant to act on complaints.

"It's hard to tell these kids, 'Hey, you've got to go and present yourself, stand up there and say, "You said this" and "You said that."' These guys are kids, you know? It shakes them up."

He says more awareness and education is needed to address the problem, and he is calling for clubs to undergo mandatory cultural awareness training.

Coach Olivieri says football is a great tool for integration for kids of a refugee and migrant background and it should not be sullied by racism.

"Sport is so important to these guys. It brings a smile to their face. It lets them be kids. It lets them be kids. It lets them play from their heart. It lets them be with their friends. They sing the club song at the end of the day when they win. There's no feeling like it."

The side reached the grand final in its debut year and currently tops the table in its division.

But Coach Olivieri says the best players often get targeted for sledging.

Liberian born midfielder Mohamed Fofana says he does not let it worry him.

"At times, it can be a little bit rough and dirty, but, as my coach says, 'Stay bulletproof, and that's what wins the games.'"

Team manager Debbie Sharples says it is incredible to see the change in kids after they join the team and their confidence is boosted.

"This is a great way for children to feel like they belong somewhere and are part of the community. So this has been a great way for many of them to come to Australia and get involved and be part of their community."

But the coaching does not end at the siren in this team.

Since 2013, Coach Olivieri has organised football clinics at the local schools to recruit new players.

He also maintains collaboration with local principals and teachers to ensure his players are kicking goals on the field and in the classroom.

"I'm a very disciplined coach, so they know, if they make mistakes here or at school, if they make mistakes at school, I'll find out one way or another, through a teacher or a principal, and I'll make sure that these guys aren't getting away with it."