Talking Footy

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Drac wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

But but but, you are comparing the WSW to PDRLFC, WSW are in their first season, so why not compare their first season to the one that PDRLFC just finished?

I was going to compare Penrith's inaugural crowd average with WSW's, but imagined Dave's inevitable, barely legible response and thought better of it:

"1967......isn't.....apples and apples...with 2012 is it....D head. End of "

But looking at Penrith's crowd averages raised an interesting notion. In 1967 Penrith averaged 7,505. In 2012 they had increased that average up to 10,858; a whopping increase of 3,353 over 45 years. That's a rate of 74 people per year. At this current rate, Penrith will reach an average of 20,000 fans in a mere 123 years.

While the above is very much tongue in cheek, I do have a genuine question for those in the know. As far as i'm aware Penrith is a large area, with a massive number of kids playing Rugby League. How have they failed to generate a large following over the past 45 years? Their biggest crowd average is just 17.7k in a premiership year.

Parramatta Eels, Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs and these days Wests Tigers were Penriths biggest problems for years, these days they need to play some winning footy.

Thanks.

Drac wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Drac wrote:

I was going to compare Penrith's inaugural crowd average with WSW's, but imagined Dave's inevitable, barely legible response and thought better of it:

"1967......isn't.....apples and apples...with 2012 is it....D head. End of "

But looking at Penrith's crowd averages raised an interesting notion. In 1967 Penrith averaged 7,505. In 2012 they had increased that average up to 10,858; a whopping increase of 3,353 over 45 years. That's a rate of 74 people per year. At this current rate, Penrith will reach an average of 20,000 fans in a mere 123 years.

While the above is very much tongue in cheek, I do have a genuine question for those in the know. As far as i'm aware Penrith is a large area, with a massive number of kids playing Rugby League. How have they failed to generate a large following over the past 45 years? Their biggest crowd average is just 17.7k in a premiership year.

Parramatta Eels, Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs and these days Wests Tigers were Penriths biggest problems for years, these days they need to play some winning footy.

Thanks.

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Wanderers-------------->Midgets


Ladder
Club P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Central Coast Mariners FC 11 8 2 1 21 8 13 26
2 Adelaide United FC 10 7 1 2 17 9 8 22
3 Melbourne Victory FC 11 5 2 4 18 21 -3 17
4 Western Sydney Wanderers FC 11 5 1 5 8 8 0 16 =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>
5 Perth Glory FC 11 4 2 5 12 10 2 14
6 Newcastle Jets FC 11 4 1 6 14 22 -8 13
7 Wellington Phoenix FC 10 3 3 4 13 12 1 12
8 Melbourne Heart FC 11 3 3 5 12 14 -2 12
9 Brisbane Roar FC 11 3 2 6 14 14 0 11
10 Sydney FC 11 3 1 7 14 25 -11 10

What kind of moron compares where the Wanderers are on the table to where clubs of another code are on their league table?

By you're logic, the Wanderers also > every western Sydney nRL club. Parramatta, Penrif and Wests. Crowd wise, the Wanderers beat the Canberra arse Raiders but just about every team in Australian sport does so that's no feat by any means.

Sydney Thunder's crowd at ANZ Stadium last night in the Big Bash was a pathetic 7,413. Low crowds in sport always tend to be in NSW, why is this? Shit sporting culture is my guess. What do you really expect from a state whose favourite sport is a bastards version of real rugby union and its home country doesn't even give a shit about it!

Stewie wrote:

Sydney Thunder's crowd at ANZ Stadium last night in the Big Bash was a pathetic 7,413. Low crowds in sport always tend to be in NSW, why is this? Shit sporting culture is my guess. What do you really expect from a state whose favourite sport is a bastards version of real rugby union and its home country doesn't even give a shit about it!

Wynn has always sold English Premier League jerseys and a few Sydney FC items. Now he can't get enough stock for the A-League's new team.

"It's been absolutely phenomenal," Wynn said yesterday.

"Nothing ever compares to Parramatta's grand final years but this has just come from nowhere. They've given us a huge lift in an otherwise difficult year."

The problem now for Wynn, Rebel and other major retailers is getting enough stock. The club ordered 10,000 of the red and black jerseys for their debut season and would have been happy to move half of them.

But try buying one in Sydney at the moment.

They are as popular as a Del Piero jersey.

Most stores are out of stock and waiting for new deliveries in January.

This A-League club is truly one of the most remarkable success stories in Australian sport. They didn't even become a footy club until April 4 this year when FFA made the announcement they would replace Clive Palmer's Gold Coast.

It wasn't until May 26 that coach Tony Popovic and CEO Lyall Gorman had their first day in the office.

Normally it takes years and years to build a successful football club in any code.

The AFL gave the Gold Coast Suns and the GWS Giants three years and $100 million to prepare for their debuts. The Wanderers got about three months and whatever spare cash was available at FFA for start-up costs. They are unique in modern sport - funded by the governing body, FFA, but in effect owned by the community of western Sydney.

No Russian billionaires, no Clive Palmers, but a fanatical bunch of fans who create atmosphere like nothing else in Australian sport.

FFA's new boss David Gallop was blown away by the crowd at Saturday night's Sydney derby.

He's seen some wonderful rivalries in rugby league over the years from Souths v Easts, Manly v Parramatta, Cronulla v Saints and so on.

"Personally I've not seen the SFS with the level of noise from Saturday night," Gallop said yesterday.

"A small minority behaved inappropriately but the atmosphere on the whole was on a level that is unique in Australian sport."

Rugby league might be already entrenched in Sydney's west and the AFL continues to throw millions behind the Giants.

"Sydney's west is a critical market for all the codes," Gallop said.

"It's quite extraordinary to think they only came into being earlier this year. There's a real sense that they belong in the competition and the opportunity for further growth is so exciting."

On Saturday night, it was Sydney FC who looked like the newcomers to the Australian A-League.

They were never a threat and played like the team that had been flung together in a few months.

The Wanderers performed like a team built on years of stability, inspired by the crazy support from The Bloc at the southern end of the stadium. They are now fourth on the ladder and better judges than me rate them a sneaky hope come finals time.

The Storm won an NRL premiership in 1999 beating the Dragons after entering the competition the previous year. Maybe the Wanderers can do something similar.






I have been trying to get a wanderers jersey for months now, cant get any at all anywhere.

Western sydney wanderers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Midgets.... =D> =D>



http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6537908650

You do realise theyre sledging the NRL too don't you?

Xman wrote:

You do realise theyre sledging the NRL too don't you?

No mate just the AFL and the midgets, show me were in this article they are sledging the NRL??????

eelofwest wrote:

Stewie wrote:

Sydney Thunder's crowd at ANZ Stadium last night in the Big Bash was a pathetic 7,413. Low crowds in sport always tend to be in NSW, why is this? Shit sporting culture is my guess. What do you really expect from a state whose favourite sport is a bastards version of real rugby union and its home country doesn't even give a shit about it!

Wynn has always sold English Premier League jerseys and a few Sydney FC items. Now he can't get enough stock for the A-League's new team.

"It's been absolutely phenomenal," Wynn said yesterday.

"Nothing ever compares to Parramatta's grand final years but this has just come from nowhere. They've given us a huge lift in an otherwise difficult year."

The problem now for Wynn, Rebel and other major retailers is getting enough stock. The club ordered 10,000 of the red and black jerseys for their debut season and would have been happy to move half of them.

But try buying one in Sydney at the moment.

They are as popular as a Del Piero jersey.

Most stores are out of stock and waiting for new deliveries in January.

This A-League club is truly one of the most remarkable success stories in Australian sport. They didn't even become a footy club until April 4 this year when FFA made the announcement they would replace Clive Palmer's Gold Coast.

It wasn't until May 26 that coach Tony Popovic and CEO Lyall Gorman had their first day in the office.

Normally it takes years and years to build a successful football club in any code.

The AFL gave the Gold Coast Suns and the GWS Giants three years and $100 million to prepare for their debuts. The Wanderers got about three months and whatever spare cash was available at FFA for start-up costs. They are unique in modern sport - funded by the governing body, FFA, but in effect owned by the community of western Sydney.

No Russian billionaires, no Clive Palmers, but a fanatical bunch of fans who create atmosphere like nothing else in Australian sport.

FFA's new boss David Gallop was blown away by the crowd at Saturday night's Sydney derby.

He's seen some wonderful rivalries in rugby league over the years from Souths v Easts, Manly v Parramatta, Cronulla v Saints and so on.

"Personally I've not seen the SFS with the level of noise from Saturday night," Gallop said yesterday.

"A small minority behaved inappropriately but the atmosphere on the whole was on a level that is unique in Australian sport."

Rugby league might be already entrenched in Sydney's west and the AFL continues to throw millions behind the Giants.

"Sydney's west is a critical market for all the codes," Gallop said.

"It's quite extraordinary to think they only came into being earlier this year. There's a real sense that they belong in the competition and the opportunity for further growth is so exciting."

On Saturday night, it was Sydney FC who looked like the newcomers to the Australian A-League.

They were never a threat and played like the team that had been flung together in a few months.

The Wanderers performed like a team built on years of stability, inspired by the crazy support from The Bloc at the southern end of the stadium. They are now fourth on the ladder and better judges than me rate them a sneaky hope come finals time.

The Storm won an NRL premiership in 1999 beating the Dragons after entering the competition the previous year. Maybe the Wanderers can do something similar.






I have been trying to get a wanderers jersey for months now, cant get any at all anywhere.

Western sydney wanderers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Midgets.... =D> =D>



http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6537908650

"Nothing ever compares to Parramatta's grand final years but this has just come from nowhere. They've given us a huge lift in an otherwise difficult year."

Normally it takes years and years to build a successful football club in any code.

The AFL gave the Gold Coast Suns and the GWS Giants three years and $100 million to prepare for their debuts.

He's seen some wonderful rivalries in rugby league over the years from Souths v Easts, Manly v Parramatta, Cronulla v Saints and so on.

Rugby league might be already entrenched in Sydney's west and the AFL continues to throw millions behind the Giants.

"Sydney's west is a critical market for all the codes," Gallop said.

Sorry mate all compliments/facts. I was at this game and it was a great night, i will be at every Sydney derby from here on in. Great atmosphere Gallop is a good car salesmen but i have been in greater atmosphere at league games before, he (Gallop) is just trying to build something special with the Wanderers and i am all for it.

Stewie wrote:

What kind of moron compares where the Wanderers are on the table to where clubs of another code are on their league table?

By you're logic, the Wanderers also > every western Sydney nRL club. Parramatta, Penrif and Wests. Crowd wise, the Wanderers beat the Canberra arse Raiders but just about every team in Australian sport does so that's no feat by any means.

& at least RL has examples of success on field in their expansion ventures in year one

the Titans
the Storm
the Warriors

going back to 1935 the Bulldogs ... they won the title in 1938 & 1942 ... 2 in their first 5 years
Manly in 1947 played their first GF in 1951

lets have a look at the VFL's efforts

the Sydney swines .....
the Brisbane teddy bears .....
the Gold coast thuns ...
the GWS midgets ....


the VFL... expansion failure is their game

Stewie wrote:

Sydney Thunder's crowd at ANZ Stadium last night in the Big Bash was a pathetic 7,413. Low crowds in sport always tend to be in NSW, why is this? Shit sporting culture is my guess. What do you really expect from a state whose favourite sport is a bastards version of real rugby union and its home country doesn't even give a shit about it!

and just 11,000 at the GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

whadda ya make of that pathetic turnout in the self annoited sports capital of the universe .... d head ?
11K ... an f'ing disgrace

might have to start dressing the players in singlets & their little sisters shorts to trick these sthn mongs into thinking its fumbleball eh ?

Xman wrote:

You do realise theyre sledging the NRL too don't you?

how

NRL' fans have their merchandise .....

but I don't recall any stories about Midgets jumpers running out of stock anywhere .... in fact
theres an over supply ... they can't give them away

you can get em for $2 ... to use as a rag to clean yr car no doubt

VFL.... failing

Raiderdave wrote:

Stewie wrote:

What kind of moron compares where the Wanderers are on the table to where clubs of another code are on their league table?

By you're logic, the Wanderers also > every western Sydney nRL club. Parramatta, Penrif and Wests. Crowd wise, the Wanderers beat the Canberra arse Raiders but just about every team in Australian sport does so that's no feat by any means.

& at least RL has examples of success on field in their expansion ventures in year one

the Titans
the Storm
the Warriors

Success in year one means fuck all you ******. Look at how shit both the Titans and the Storm are now. The Storm can't even get a 15k average to their games despite 5 grand finals, and the Titans well aren't they just in turmoil? $30 million debt, shit crowds etc. Straight up success is not good for a teams long term future as fans will expect them to always win and jump off like, well nRL fans when their team starts losing.

Raiderdave wrote:

Stewie wrote:

What kind of moron compares where the Wanderers are on the table to where clubs of another code are on their league table?

By you're logic, the Wanderers also > every western Sydney nRL club. Parramatta, Penrif and Wests. Crowd wise, the Wanderers beat the Canberra arse Raiders but just about every team in Australian sport does so that's no feat by any means.

& at least RL has examples of success on field in their expansion ventures in year one

the Titans
the Storm
the Warriors

going back to 1935 the Bulldogs ... they won the title in 1938 & 1942 ... 2 in their first 5 years
Manly in 1947 played their first GF in 1951

lets have a look at the VFL's efforts

the Sydney swines .....
the Brisbane teddy bears .....
the Gold coast thuns ...
the GWS midgets ....


the VFL... expansion failure is their game

1987: WCE - 8th (3 flags since)
1991: Adelaide Crows - 9th (2 flags since)
1995: Freo - 13th (no flags since)
1997: Port - 9th (1 flag since)

But regardless, what kind of insane tortise and the hare logic are you applying to expansion? Who gives a sh*t about what happens in the first year of a club's existance? Storm, Titans and Warriors didn't suck on field in their first year of existance, so nRL wins? Swans were AWFUL in their first year in Sydney, and now they've won 2 flags and have been the highest drawing team in Sydney for 18 years in a row. Brisbane were an utter basket case, and went on to win 3 flags in a row and outdraw the juggernaught Broncos during that period. But none of that matters because in their first year they were bad?

eelofwest wrote:

Xman wrote:

You do realise theyre sledging the NRL too don't you?

No mate just the AFL and the midgets, show me were in this article they are sledging the NRL??????

i wonder what they mean by this line?

No Russian billionaires, no Clive Palmers, but a fanatical bunch of fans who create atmosphere like nothing else in Australian sport.

Xman wrote:

eelofwest wrote:

Xman wrote:

You do realise theyre sledging the NRL too don't you?

No mate just the AFL and the midgets, show me were in this article they are sledging the NRL??????

i wonder what they mean by this line?

No Russian billionaires, no Clive Palmers, but a fanatical bunch of fans who create atmosphere like nothing else in Australian sport.

Oi ******, care to put them names there with any RL club while you are butt butt butting?