Talking Footy

Xman wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Here you go Dave this article says that Rl beat AFL this season.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1o58v.html

Now wait for the AFLs response.

There has been no boasting from the NRL or media this year. I wonder why? >

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Here you go Dave this article says that Rl beat AFL this season.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1o58v.html

Now wait for the AFLs response.

There has been no boasting from the NRL or media this year. I wonder why? >

we're so used to winning it
I'd imagine the ARLC were thinking it may be close in 2012



but it wasn't & they're in shock

i mean.... we were told the VFL couldn't lose

11 more games for the VFL in 2012
all regionals in VFL states now counted
all games on pay as well as FTA

all of these things we were told .... would get vicky kicky over the line
its a done deal the flogballers said
we can't be beaten now .. they said

Xman wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Here you go Dave this article says that Rl beat AFL this season.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1o58v.html

Now wait for the AFLs response.

sorry pies, this was for 2011. There has been no boasting from the NRL or media this year. I wonder why? >

piesman2011 wrote:

Xman wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Here you go Dave this article says that Rl beat AFL this season.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1o58v.html

Now wait for the AFLs response.

sorry pies, this was for 2011. There has been no boasting from the NRL or media this year. I wonder why? >

My bad but the NRL number says it totalled 134 million in 2011 and that the AFL got a total of 12 million less so that is 122 million for the AFL in 2011 but the Australian paper said that the AFL for 2011 got 113 million. So which paper and result is correct? Could it be that the Sydney Herald includes extras for the AFL like the preseason comp and perhaps the crowd totals while the Australian article doesnt inlcude the preseason comp and crowd totals?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/r ... 6525246762

Heres a contrast

Sydney morning Herald

2011 AFL numbers 122 million
2011 NRL numbers 134 million

The Australian newspaper

2011 AFL numbers 113.6 million
2011 NRL numbers 113.5 million


Look closely at the 2011 AFL numbers and compare the Sydney morning herald with the Australian numbers and tell me again Dave that the AFL preseason numbers are included in the Australian newspaper's numbers.

So do you think now that the Australian newspaper's stats for 2012 include the AFL preseason or are they using a different set of stats in the two newspapers? Its one or the other. Perhaps all knowing Dave you can answer this question.

Xman wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Here you go Dave this article says that Rl beat AFL this season.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1o58v.html

Now wait for the AFLs response.

sorry pies, this was for 2011. There has been no boasting from the NRL or media this year. I wonder why? >

In the first annual chairmen and chief executives conference involving the incoming commissioners, plus representatives from all major state and national leagues, the 2011 season review revealed rugby league had a cumulative audience of 134 million viewers, without including a further 12 million in New Zealand.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2H6SUo0Ma

eelofwest wrote:

Xman wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Here you go Dave this article says that Rl beat AFL this season.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1o58v.html

Now wait for the AFLs response.

sorry pies, this was for 2011. There has been no boasting from the NRL or media this year. I wonder why? >

Yes that was last year and the NRL ratings for NRL competition went up 1% and the SOO ratings were up 10% in 2012, now xman if that little brain of yours can add up that would put us above last years ratings which was 134m without NZ.

In the first annual chairmen and chief executives conference involving the incoming commissioners, plus representatives from all major state and national leagues, the 2011 season review revealed rugby league had a cumulative audience of 134 million viewers, without including a further 12 million in New Zealand.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2H6SUo0Ma

So we are about 136m maybe more for 2012 and that does not included NZ......................GAME OVER and as raider has been trying to get through that thick skull of yours END OFF......................

Xman wrote:

eelofwest wrote:

Xman wrote:

sorry pies, this was for 2011. There has been no boasting from the NRL or media this year. I wonder why? >

Yes that was last year and the NRL ratings for NRL competition went up 1% and the SOO ratings were up 10% in 2012, now xman if that little brain of yours can add up that would put us above last years ratings which was 134m without NZ.

In the first annual chairmen and chief executives conference involving the incoming commissioners, plus representatives from all major state and national leagues, the 2011 season review revealed rugby league had a cumulative audience of 134 million viewers, without including a further 12 million in New Zealand.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2H6SUo0Ma

So we are about 136m maybe more for 2012 and that does not included NZ......................GAME OVER and as raider has been trying to get through that thick skull of yours END OFF......................

Fail

It makes no difference

The AFL beat the NrL easily.

RL may have got 134m but what did Australian Rules get since it encompasses more than just the main AFL season?

piesman2011 wrote:

There is a few other things that you could take into consideration as well when it comes to the AFL broadcast. The AFL season was broadcast on Testra Tbox this year and im not sure if there is any way to calculate the numbers from the Tbox watchers. Every game could be seen live from a Telstra phone for a years fee of $50 and I watched a few games on the phone this year. I heard a rumor (couldnt be stuffed looking it up) that over 1 million people payed for the AFL season this year on their Telstra phones.

Stewie wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

There is a few other things that you could take into consideration as well when it comes to the AFL broadcast. The AFL season was broadcast on Testra Tbox this year and im not sure if there is any way to calculate the numbers from the Tbox watchers. Every game could be seen live from a Telstra phone for a years fee of $50 and I watched a few games on the phone this year. I heard a rumor (couldnt be stuffed looking it up) that over 1 million people payed for the AFL season this year on their Telstra phones.

This. 1 million people downloaded the free AFL app, and tens of thousands had paid for live games within the first month of the season. =D>

I doubt ratings from mobile devices are recorded so it's practically impossible to find an actual ratings figure. Or we could do a Raiderdave and just make up a random figure

piesman2011 wrote:

Xman wrote:

eelofwest wrote:

Yes that was last year and the NRL ratings for NRL competition went up 1% and the SOO ratings were up 10% in 2012, now xman if that little brain of yours can add up that would put us above last years ratings which was 134m without NZ.
So we are about 136m maybe more for 2012 and that does not included NZ......................GAME OVER and as raider has been trying to get through that thick skull of yours END OFF......................

Fail

It makes no difference

The AFL beat the NrL easily.

RL may have got 134m but what did Australian Rules get since it encompasses more than just the main AFL season?

I would agree with Eels, that RL with the NZ ratings would come up ahead of the AFL if you were counting SOO games, tests, All stars and cityVcountry and the AFL counted its main season and its preseason only (total acculumative audience comparison). But I coluld counter this and say that the total AFL content watched on TV would be a lot more then RL (total acculumative audience wise). If I was to compared hours watched as I have stated before the AFL would come out about 150 million hours ahead of RL (games only, God only knows how much the difference would be if you compared total AFL content with RL content on TV). But for some reason RL followers tend to blow this off as unimportant. What I dont understand is why 3 hours of my life (watching an AFL game) is only worth the same as 2 hours of a RL followers life.

eelofwest wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Xman wrote:

Fail

It makes no difference

The AFL beat the NrL easily.

RL may have got 134m but what did Australian Rules get since it encompasses more than just the main AFL season?

I would agree with Eels, that RL with the NZ ratings would come up ahead of the AFL if you were counting SOO games, tests, All stars and cityVcountry and the AFL counted its main season and its preseason only (total acculumative audience comparison). But I coluld counter this and say that the total AFL content watched on TV would be a lot more then RL (total acculumative audience wise). If I was to compared hours watched as I have stated before the AFL would come out about 150 million hours ahead of RL (games only, God only knows how much the difference would be if you compared total AFL content with RL content on TV). But for some reason RL followers tend to blow this off as unimportant. What I dont understand is why 3 hours of my life (watching an AFL game) is only worth the same as 2 hours of a RL followers life.

eelofwest wrote:

Hey Pies you do realize how desperate your lot are getting now that the NRL won Ratings and TV DEAL potentially......

The AFL won the normal season comp ratings total accumulative viewers per game (as printed in the Australian)
The AFL beat all of the RL numbers for OZ and NZ for total hours viewed by hundreds of millions of hours (Goes without saying)

The RL may have won the total accumulative viewers per game V AFL for OZ and NZ if you dont count phone and Tbox viewers. (by the way this was a made up stat that was used in the first place to make RL look good in newspapers )(but this has yet to be printed for 2012)

eelofwest wrote:

You want to included Pre season, well lets included the Toyota Cup ratings for the NRL which rate higher then Super rugby on Fox shall we?

So the NRL gets to add its SOO, Tests (some of which may include non NRL players) ect but the AFL doesnt get to add its AFL run preseason comp played by AFL players. Does the AFL get to add its under 18 comp or its VFL/SNFL/WAFL comps? Or its TV shows? If the NRL gets to add its Toyota cup ratings played by many non NRL payed players? Like I said earlier the AFL would come way out if front if you want to play those games. Even if the AFL was able to add its accumulative phone viewers. With more then 1 million subscribers all watching at least 15 games on their phones (out of a total of 200 games) thats 15 million more viewers. Then you could probabaly add an extra 5 million from Tbox viewers. That would beat the RL ratings for OZ and NZ but I dont know what the numbers are for sure and my name isnt RaiderDave so I wont play that game yet.

eelofwest wrote:

An answer to your other question...........NRL is just more valuable as a tv product hence the more dollars per minute with the initial 1.035b Nine/Fox deal, now add the Online mobile and NZ Sky deals and the NRL as a product is worth way more then the AFL.

eelofwest wrote:

Stewie wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

There is a few other things that you could take into consideration as well when it comes to the AFL broadcast. The AFL season was broadcast on Testra Tbox this year and im not sure if there is any way to calculate the numbers from the Tbox watchers. Every game could be seen live from a Telstra phone for a years fee of $50 and I watched a few games on the phone this year. I heard a rumor (couldnt be stuffed looking it up) that over 1 million people payed for the AFL season this year on their Telstra phones.

This. 1 million people downloaded the free AFL app, and tens of thousands had paid for live games within the first month of the season. =D>

I doubt ratings from mobile devices are recorded so it's practically impossible to find an actual ratings figure. Or we could do a Raiderdave and just make up a random figure

Hey dopey the NRL will be available to all subscribers the AFL only available to Telstra users.

The NRL will pull even further in front if you want to play that game........ =D> =D>

NRL can offer this service to People in NZ, ENG, PNG, France, Wales.....................it will be a massacre if you want to included Mobile ratings....

Xman wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Here you go Dave this article says that Rl beat AFL this season.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1o58v.html

Now wait for the AFLs response.

sorry pies, this was for 2011. There has been no boasting from the NRL or media this year. I wonder why? >

pussycat wrote:

Xman wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Here you go Dave this article says that Rl beat AFL this season.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1o58v.html

Now wait for the AFLs response.

sorry pies, this was for 2011. There has been no boasting from the NRL or media this year. I wonder why? >

I notice it was'nt Roy Masters who wrote that article.


I would assume, due to the way the AFL inflate there ratings nowadays, they have made the playing fields very uneven. Making a true comparrison almost impossible.
There are some sick - desperate - people in this world(most of them come from Melbourne)