Talking Footy

Gone wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:37 pm

Terry wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:13 pm

Sure thing bummy. But of course when you break down the numbers proportionately to respective broadcast lengths, and advertisement time availability, RL is easily the most valuable sport on Australian TV.

You know this but your raging bias and fumble fever will preclude you from ever admitting it. Such is the life of the fumble bubble dwelling zealot.

Fascinating how you guys spin context when you want. I mean if we trot out hours watched, then the AFL is by FAR the most watched professional sport in the country, but then that doesnt suit your narrative. Only the raw numbers do.

You can break it down to bring whatever result you want to manufacture so you can sleep easier. Whatever way you spin it - Overall Rugby League is not being paid the most of any Australian sport, even with Origin, Rep Fixtures and NZ. It is thus not the most valuable. Thats the bottom line.

You get more money from the network , fair enough. Your game gives the broadcaster more adds and more broadcast hours. If you had to rely on ratings you would up shitters ditch.

We are the most popular sport in Australia. A fact supported by ratings and social media. We have an overseas presence and enormous potential Unlike your game, pretty much restricted to 3 backwater states with very little future to speak of. Is it any wonder your so jealous

Gone wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:37 pm

Terry wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:13 pm

Sure thing bummy. But of course when you break down the numbers proportionately to respective broadcast lengths, and advertisement time availability, RL is easily the most valuable sport on Australian TV.

You know this but your raging bias and fumble fever will preclude you from ever admitting it. Such is the life of the fumble bubble dwelling zealot.

Fascinating how you guys spin context when you want. I mean if we trot out hours watched, then the AFL is by FAR the most watched professional sport in the country, but then that doesnt suit your narrative. Only the raw numbers do.

You can break it down to bring whatever result you want to manufacture so you can sleep easier. Whatever way you spin it - Overall Rugby League is not being paid the most of any Australian sport, even with Origin, Rep Fixtures and NZ. It is thus not the most valuable. Thats the bottom line.

Another word salad of obfuscation bummy. Very typical stuff pal. Re ratings: when the ratings agencies change the way they deliver the numbers I will quote them as such. As it is now, you know and I know, RL is the most watched sport on Aust TV. No bleating or whining from you will change the official numbers. At the seasons end you will post the numbers proving this. Yep, YOU will prove my point for me. Thanks in advance bummy lololol!!

Re value: Per minute RL is the most valuable sport in Australia. On totals fumbling gets more because they play for 30 mins longer and have many many more advertising opportunities due to the laughable scoring methods. This is what ya call FACTS bummy. Look the word up in the dictionary and give yaself and education.

SEVEN’S AFL: SATURDAY AFTERNOON FOOTBALL FINALS Seven Network 747,000 44,000 413,000 53,000 113,000 125,000
SEVEN’S AFL: SATURDAY AFTERNOON FOOTBALL FINALS 7mate 97,000 44,000 — 53,000 — —

LIVE: AFL QF1 GEE V COL FOX FOOTY 365,000



SEVEN’S AFL: SATURDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL FINALS Seven Network 731,000 30,000 354,000 33,000 100,000 214,000

LIVE: AFL EF1 FRE V WB FOX FOOTY 311,000




SATURDAY NIGHT NRL LIVE Nine Network 192,000 110,000 4,000 71,000 4,000 3,000

LIVE: NRL: DRAGONS V BRONCOS FOX LEAGUE 242,000
LIVE: NRL: COWBOYS V PANTHERS FOX LEAGUE 228,000
LIVE: NRL: WARRIORS V TITANS FOX LEAGUE 141,000



LIVE: NRLW: ROUND 3 BRONCOS V TITANS FOX LEAGUE 39,000




THE RUGBY CHAMPIONSHIP 2022 -AUS V RSA Nine Network 170,000 51,000 32,000 38,000 21,000 28,000
THE RUGBY CHAMPIONSHIP 2022 -AUS V RSA 9Gem 89,000 51,000 — 38,000 — —


https://tvtonight.com.au/2022/09/saturd ... -2022.html

Terry wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:41 am

Another word salad of obfuscation bummy. Very typical stuff pal. Re ratings: when the ratings agencies change the way they deliver the numbers I will quote them as such. As it is now, you know and I know, RL is the most watched sport on Aust TV. No bleating or whining from you will change the official numbers. At the seasons end you will post the numbers proving this. Yep, YOU will prove my point for me. Thanks in advance bummy lololol!!

Sure. Youll take the raw numbers when it suits you. As it does here.

Re value: Per minute RL is the most valuable sport in Australia. On totals fumbling gets more because they play for 30 mins longer and have many many more advertising opportunities due to the laughable scoring methods. This is what ya call FACTS bummy. Look the word up in the dictionary and give yaself and education.

But it doesnt suit you here. On total the AFL get more. Thats the end of the story.

Thanks for playing.

Gone wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 1:33 pm

Terry wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:41 am

Another word salad of obfuscation bummy. Very typical stuff pal. Re ratings: when the ratings agencies change the way they deliver the numbers I will quote them as such. As it is now, you know and I know, RL is the most watched sport on Aust TV. No bleating or whining from you will change the official numbers. At the seasons end you will post the numbers proving this. Yep, YOU will prove my point for me. Thanks in advance bummy lololol!!

Sure. Youll take the raw numbers when it suits you. As it does here.

Re value: Per minute RL is the most valuable sport in Australia. On totals fumbling gets more because they play for 30 mins longer and have many many more advertising opportunities due to the laughable scoring methods. This is what ya call FACTS bummy. Look the word up in the dictionary and give yaself and education.

But it doesnt suit you here. On total the AFL get more. Thats the end of the story.

Thanks for playing.

Raw numbers lololololol????????? It's what the ratings agencies put out pal. And what you'll use to proclaim RL the winner at seasons end lolololol.

And value is both average and aggregate. Then again I wouldn't expect you to know as I doubt you've ever studied economics.

Big win for the AFL finals again on FTA and STV. Sydney audience for the AFL, on secondary channel 7mate, doubled the live NRL final audience on Channel 9 in Melbourne. Disappointing that Channel 7 in Brisbane bumped the AFL final to 7mate for non stop rolling coverage of the Queen’s passing.

Total TV Ratings, September 2

Seven’s Friday Night AFL Finals, which saw the Sydney Swans defeat the Melbourne Demons, was the top program on total TV, rising 1% to reach a total audience of 1,171,000.


Overnight TV Ratings, September 9

The AFL finals continue to be the force behind Seven‘s weekend success as the network dominated the Friday shares, taking a 41.6% network share, 29.3% primary share, and 7mate multichannel win of 7.7%.

The top-rated program of the night was 7news with 852,000 views, followed by Seven’s AFL: Friday Night Football Finals with a viewership of 800,000. 439,000 Melbourne fans watched on as The Brisbane Lions defeated Melbourne to claim victory 14.8 (92) to 11.13 (79). The Lions trailed by 28-points late in the first half, but managed to kick 11 goals to five after half-time to secure their win. The post-match coverage clocked 638,000 views, followed by the pre-match coverage with 535,000.


Nine enjoyed 736,000 views on its primetime news coverage, followed by the Rugby League Final Series, which brought in 509,000 views. 313,000 Sydney-siders tuned in to watch the Panthers take on the Eels at BlueBet Stadium to walk away with a 27-8 win. The pre-match coverage clocked 268,000 views.

STV

Fox Footy’s coverage of the Qualifying Finals between Melbourne and Brisbane won the night, bringing in 347,000 viewers. On Fox League, the Qualifying Finals between the Panthers and Eels brought in an audience of 314,000. Fox Footy’s Friday Footy on Fox reached 307,000 viewers, followed by In The Back Pocket with 132,000 viewers.

https://www.mediaweek.com.au/tv-ratings ... s-success/

SEVEN’S AFL: FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL FINALS – PRE MATCH Seven Network 535,000 29,000 311,000 43,000 108,000 44,000
SEVEN’S AFL: FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL FINALS Seven Network 800,000 50,000 439,000 68,000 127,000 117,000
SEVEN’S AFL: FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL FINALS – POST MATCH Seven Network 638,000 44,000 316,000 76,000 99,000 103,000


SEVEN’S AFL: FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL FINALS – PRE MATCH 7mate 116,000 29,000 — 43,000 — 44,000
SEVEN’S AFL: FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL FINALS 7mate 235,000 50,000 — 68,000 — 117,000
SEVEN’S AFL: FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL FINALS – POST MATCH 7mate 223,000 44,000 — 76,000 — 103,000

LIVE: AFL SF MELBOURNE V BRISBANE FOX FOOTY 347,000
AFL SEMI FINAL MELBOURNE V BRISBANE FOX FOOTY 28,000


LIVE: FINALS FOOTY ON FOX FOX LEAGUE 122,000
LIVE: FRIDAY FOOTY ON FOX FOX FOOTY 105,000






RUGBY LEAGUE FINAL SERIES QF1 -PRE MATCH Nine Network 268,000 138,000 45,000 81,000 3,000 1,000
RUGBY LEAGUE FINAL SERIES QF1 Nine Network 509,000 313,000 25,000 148,000 12,000 11,000
RUGBY LEAGUE FINAL SERIES QF1 -POST MATCH Nine Network 186,000 126,000 8,000 47,000 2,000 3,000


LIVE: NRL: QF#1 PANTHERS V EELS FOX LEAGUE 314,000


LIVE: FINALS FOOTY ON FOX FOX LEAGUE 97,000
LIVE: NRL TONIGHT FOX LEAGUE 29,000
NRL: QUALIFYING FINAL #1 PANTHERS V EELS FOX LEAGUE 26,000


https://tvtonight.com.au/2022/09/friday ... -2022.html

Do you have any details on the make up of the deals?(how much fox paid) or the delays?

pussycat Mark 11 wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 12:55 pm

Do you have any details on the make up of the deals?(how much fox paid) or the delays?

everything i have been able to locate is here

http://www.footyindustry.com/?p=172391

Summary – The AFLs 4.5 billion, 7 year media deal from 2025-2031

It is a seven-year partnership from 2025 to the end of the 2031 season. 

The AFL continues to have full control of the production of the fixture, including the scheduling time of the AFL Grand Final. This is important to continue to provide fans certainty and ensuring the right mix of match ups and timeslots.

Broadcast live and free nationally on the Seven Network and 7+ digital will be AFL on Thursday nights, Friday nights, selected Saturday nights, Sunday afternoons, Marquee matches, the Brownlow Medal, all AFL Finals and the AFL Grand Final.

The first 15 rounds of the AFL Premiership Season to feature Thursday night matches on the Seven Network and 7+ digital
Saturday night matches in the last eight rounds

All marquee matches will be live and free (Dreamtime, Anzac Eve, Anzac Day, Good Friday, Easter Monday and Queen’s Birthday) plus at least three additional marquee matches – such as the season opener and Queen’s Birthday Eve.

Broadcast live on Foxtel and Kayo will be every single AFL / AFLW home and away match, every AFL / AFLW final (excluding the AFL Grand Final), all pre-season matches – and all with their own Fox Footy commentary teams. Foxtel / Kayo will also broadcast all AFL events including the AFL draft and Awards nights (excluding the Brownlow).

Seven will provide Fox with a clean Feed. Fox will use their own commentators and graphics for all matches.

Foxtel / Kayo will own Saturday in the first eight rounds of each AFL season, broadcasting exclusively live all games in all timeslots, which the exception of Anzac Eve, Anzac Day and Dreamtime if they were to fall on a Saturday.

Outside Victoria, the match involving the local team will be broadcast live into the local market on the Seven Network and 7+ digital except for selected matches on holdbacks.

At least 30 NAB AFLW home and away games, AFLW finals and the AFLW grand final will be live and free on the Seven Network and 7+ digital with local market substitution rules. ALL NAB AFLW matches and events will also be broadcast on Foxtel and Kayo.

All Free to Air games mirrored and available on 7+ digital in all local markets.

In addition, our partnership with Telstra is extending and by the end of this agreement we will have celebrated 30 years with Telstra as our digital and technology partner, connecting fans to the game they love anywhere, anytime on any platform.

Through this new deal Telstra will be building on their investment into Marvel Stadium and extending into innovation and our digital offerings through the AFL / AFLW apps and all 18 clubs’ websites.

The total agreement we are announcing today with our broadcast partners covers seven seasons from Season 2025 – until the end of the 2031 season and will deliver footy a financial return of $4.5 billion.

------ end official statement ----

Reporting -

Foxtel and Seven were forced to pay significantly more than anyone imagined due to Channel Ten and Paramount’s bid of $6 billion over 10 years. Channel Ten and its owner Paramount forced Foxtel and Seven’s hand by upping the ante with Ten’s 10-year $6 billion bid – which Ten insiders believe was only beaten on the buzzer by a late top-up by News Corp/Foxtel.

Nine made a last-minute offer for the entirety of the rights around the $500 million mark, which was ultimately unsuccessful. Participants say Nine’s bid came in the lowest, between $500 million and $520 million in cash over five years.

Ten/Paramount’s pitch – about $100m a year ahead of Nine – wasn’t simply financial. The final offer from Paramount/Channel 10 came in about $570 million over 10 years, sources say. The American-owned network (which has a streaming arm Paramount +) also offered to put footy on free to air, on the primary channel, every Saturday night, in Queensland and NSW; obviously, their pitch had to exceed the incumbents. Eventually, they were beaten on dollars.

The combined pitch by Seven West Media and Foxtel is understood to be worth $550 million a year according to News Limited and Roy Masters – cash and contra totalling $3.85 billion over seven years – with additional revenue from Telstra for their AFL Live app taking the deal past $4 billion in cash. According to the Financial Review, excluding the free advertising attached to broadcast deals known as contra, the Seven-Foxtel bid came to roughly $600 million in cash each year over seven years, according to several participants.

For Seven, the cost of the AFL will be $1.3 billion over the lifespan of the contract, or an average $189 million a year, according to number crunching by investment bank Goldman Sachs. Seven will pay a 14% increase on the 2024 rights in 2025; with indexation over the term this represents a 3.6% compound annual growth rate in rights fees across the period.

The new seven-year deal will bring in $642 million in cash annually, and subsidised advertising on Seven and across Foxtel’s service, far more than the $600 million per year the AFL was aiming for. The previous two deals had yielded $3.5 billion over eight years. It is up from the $473 million the league will secure for each of the 2023 and 2024 seasons, a rise of just over 35 per cent per season.

7plus will be the new home of the AFL for Seven’s fans and advertisers, with a comprehensive package of digital rights secured with this renewal. The 7plus AFL hub will include live and replay matches as well as catch-up rights and highlights packages on video on demand, available live and free on any device, at any time. Seven will also continue to broadcast AFL games on Channel 7 and 7mate.

The new deal “contemplates” the possibility of the introduction of a 19th team from Tasmania, McLachlan said. He added the AFL was “optimistic of reaching some agreement with the Tasmanian government” before the league went to its existing clubs.

McLachlan said the league would annually review the grand final start time given the changing nature of broadcasting with Warburton saying of Seven’s preference: “We would love a night grand final. It’s about reach and it’s about the people at home and it’s about some of the casual fans but it’s a decision for the AFL.”

The start time will remain at 7.50pm for Friday night games but McLachlan said there was “provision” for the AFL to move that time forward to 7.20pm as early as next year

There is a message to be heard from the ratings on the move to the secondary channel because of the coverage of the passing of the Queen. How many would make the move? What percentage? It should have a big say going forward. The unwillingness of fans to go to the secondary channel would have a clear guide here.

TLPG wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:14 am

There is a message to be heard from the ratings on the move to the secondary channel because of the coverage of the passing of the Queen. How many would make the move? What percentage? It should have a big say going forward. The unwillingness of fans to go to the secondary channel would have a clear guide here.

Who would turn over at 60 to 0 , or whatever the score was at that time. Though I do suppose the Victerps understanding of remote control use may have been an issue


C9 rarely punt Australia's most popular sport to the secondary channels.

Sunday, 11 September 2022

AFL Finals score on Seven

The 2022 AFL Finals Series has kicked goals on the Seven Network, with the Friday and Saturday night Semi Finals reaching a combined 3.74 million viewers nationally.

Seven’s live and free coverage of Friday night’s Melbourne v Brisbane Lions Semi Final scored an average 1.06 million viewers nationally. It was up 80% on the 2022 season-date average audience, up 143% in Brisbane, 91% in Melbourne, 79% in Sydney, 65% in Adelaide and 54% in Perth.

The Brisbane Lion’s thrilling victory over Melbourne was #1 in its timeslot in total people, 25 to 54s and 16 to 39s and reached 2.69 million people.

The Seven Network was #1 in prime time on Friday with an unbeatable 53% commercial audience share in the capital cities in total people, 51.3% in 25 to 54s and 51.8% in 16 to 39s.

Saturday night’s Semi Final between Collingwood and Fremantle was watched by 914,000 people nationally and dominated its timeslot in total people, 25 to 54s and 16 to 39s.

The high-stakes match was up 69% on the 2022 regular season Saturday night average audience and reached 2.66 million people nationally.

Melbourne’s audience was up 84% on the 2022 season to-date Saturday night match average audience, while the Perth audience soared 174% and Sydney was up 17%.

Seven was #1 in prime time on Saturday with a dominant 53.5% commercial audience share in the capital cities in total people, 51.6% in 25 to 54s and 53% in 16 to 39s.

Seven Network is #1 nationally and in the capital cities so far in the OzTAM 2022 survey year, and #1 nationally in 25 to 54s and 16 to 39s.