Talking Footy

pussycat wrote:

AFLSaintsCats 202k
AFLSunsDons 190k
AFLPiesTigers 162k
AFLCrowsLions 75k
AFLGiantsSwans 60k

AFL $2.17m


NRLSharksTigers 171k
NRLWarriorsCowboys 248k
NRLRoostersBroncos 322k

NRL How Much?

leagueiscrap wrote:

pussycat wrote:

so far vickhead , the NRL has made 1 deal, FTA - and the AFL got less money. :_<>

the NRLOL god lass last time & the several deals before that! will the NRLOl get more this time!

NO

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piesman2011 wrote:

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piesman2011 wrote:

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piesman2011 wrote:

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piesman2011 wrote:

AFLsforPussies wrote:

Will be interesting to see what pans out with the fox NRL deal.
The NRL have plenty of time to work out an agreement with them.
Rupert is obviously not happy at the way the NRL 9 deal was done... but he knows and everyone else knows that Rugby League fans won't keep fox if it does not have NRL games. Both need each other. The only reason I have it is for live Rugby League.

For the NRL fans without paytv it has been a big win. They get the same amount of games to watch on free to air as the AFL has.
And channel 9 has payed more for the NRL deal than Channel 7 payed for AFL.

Channel 9 NRL deal - 925 million for 5 years
Channel 7 AFL deal - 900 million for 6 years

But News Limited and AFL fans refuse to mention that.

Not quite right.

Channel 9 NRL exclusive games deal 925 million for 5 years for 4 games a week (46.5million a game per year + SOO)
Channel 9 NRL deal simulcast deal 800 million for 5 years for 4 games a week (40 million a game per year + SOO)
Channel 7 AFL deal - 900 million for 6 years for 3.5 games a week (42.9 million a game per year)

The NRL deal is only better with exclusive games and SOO. With simulcast it is worse despite the SOO games thrown in (there's an article with a quote saying that channel nine will get back 150 million if there is simulcast) On top of this Channel 9 get to show their adds on both the pay TV and the digital feed for the 4 games. It also looks like C9 have digital rights to the 4 games so they can use them (maybe even have them free) on any digital device. With no Monday night or Saturday night game (for pay TV) this has to reduce the pay TV deal in a big way even with simulcast due to the dirty feed. I like the AFL deal better from a financial point of view.

I think you will find simulcasting is $25m a game - $100m total . Fox May no longer have Monday night ,but they chose to simulcast , they get the 3 prime time slots - ie they would lose Monday night but would now have Thursday, Friday nights as well as being able to continue with there Super Saturday program.

I read close to 30 million per game which is about 120 million. I was wrong when I posted 150 million. So it's somewhere between 805-825 million (difference between 100-120 million) which is 40.25 to 41.25 million per game still less then the AFL c7 deal despite SOO being thrown in. Still should be a good overall deal for the NRL.

The figures I used was $800m a year from Ch9 , So the FTA deal sees the NRL getting $10m , or slightly more, a year than the AFL on FTA - run and won!

Fox also gets all finals matches - bar the GF, and all Rep. matches - bar Origin.

Murdoch is already losing subscriptions he doesn't want to lose any more.

I can already see Foxs Sales pitch, , Foxtel, the only place were you can see all AFL matches and all NRL matches live every week'.

So you got more dollars from FTA per year (lol) than AFL and given up much more. AFL has given up less games. 3.5 games a week and less rounds as well although it's not that important. Per game the NRL got a worse deal and gave up exclusive digital rights SOO and gave anyone else who wants to simulcast the rights a dirty feed. I'm not saying it's a bad deal, just not as good as AFL, who gave pay TV 5.5 games a week exclusive.

Why LOL? You can read as well as I can. $160m a year is more than $150m a year regardless. You might think the NRL got a poor deal, I don't. to me , having more people watching you sport is not a bad thing. Pissing Rupert Off could be a problem, but he's a good businessman, not looking after your most popular product, a product more popular than your next best product by 20% would be a very bad business decision, more so when your already losing subscription numbers. im sure he will come around once he cools down. He would lose Monday night but picking up Thursday, Friday and Sunday night , the Final series with the exception of the GF and all representative matches barring Origin, Not a hard decision to make, I wouldn't have thought.





How does Fox work with CH7 feed? remove the adds or send there own camera team ? I'm guessing Fox will do exactly the same thing with Ch 9 , if they chose to simulcast

The lol was because you have given up much more to get the deal and you have slightly more money per year. Are the SOOs and an extra match every fortnight only worh 10 million a year? Or is it the dirty feed or the digital rights? The rest of the deal won't be as good as it could have been. Because of this you can only conclude that digital rights will be less and the fox deal will be less then the AFL deal per year. The AFL FTA deal is better per game and until you sell the rest of the rights it is the only true way to compare apples to apples. I'm not sure why you are clutching at straws on that one. See wookies post to see what happens with the c7 feed.

The NrL have origin , But as a trade off there competition is affected over this period . According to the NRL twitter site its down 10 % over this period. The AFL also has 1 extra match. $10m - $ 40m a year more.

You talk about dirty feed. but its no different to what Foxtel takes from its Channel 7 feed.

Our digital will be less , but we have interational rights as well.


Digital rights / I.T will be more and more each year and PTV will have to pay more and more to keep pace with the new world.

It just went out for lunch, nephews birthday. And I didn't bring the subject up but people started talking about pay tv and how crappt it was - the movies shit . there was about 5 people with pay tv at the table . Two said how the only reason they don't cancel there subscription and go to to something like Netflix was because it doesn't have the football. Two other people sitting at the table had already cancelled there subscriptions.

leagueiscrap wrote:

pussycat wrote:

AFLSaintsCats 202k
AFLSunsDons 190k
AFLPiesTigers 162k
AFLCrowsLions 75k
AFLGiantsSwans 60k

AFL $2.17m


NRLSharksTigers 171k
NRLWarriorsCowboys 248k
NRLRoostersBroncos 322k

NRL How Much?

yep go the ratings! that's why broadcasters pay more $ for the AFL

AFLcrap1 wrote:

leagueiscrap wrote:

pussycat wrote:

AFLSaintsCats 202k
AFLSunsDons 190k
AFLPiesTigers 162k
AFLCrowsLions 75k
AFLGiantsSwans 60k

AFL $2.17m


NRLSharksTigers 171k
NRLWarriorsCowboys 248k
NRLRoostersBroncos 322k

NRL How Much?

yep go the ratings! that's why broadcasters pay more $ for the AFL

Only part of the new RL deal signed is the FTA component.
& we are in front .
But carry on with your delusions .

leagueiscrap wrote:

AFLcrap1 wrote:

leagueiscrap wrote:

pussycat wrote:

AFLSaintsCats 202k
AFLSunsDons 190k
AFLPiesTigers 162k
AFLCrowsLions 75k
AFLGiantsSwans 60k

AFL $2.17m


NRLSharksTigers 171k
NRLWarriorsCowboys 248k
NRLRoostersBroncos 322k

NRL How Much?

yep go the ratings! that's why broadcasters pay more $ for the AFL

Only part of the new RL deal signed is the FTA component.
& we are in front .
But carry on with your delusions .

Different arrangements dipshit!
2.5 billion is a lot higher that 900 million!

Come back when the nrlol get any where near that

pussycat wrote:

leagueiscrap wrote:

AFLcrap1 wrote:

leagueiscrap wrote:

pussycat wrote:

AFLSaintsCats 202k
AFLSunsDons 190k
AFLPiesTigers 162k
AFLCrowsLions 75k
AFLGiantsSwans 60k

AFL $2.17m


NRLSharksTigers 171k
NRLWarriorsCowboys 248k
NRLRoostersBroncos 322k

NRL How Much?

yep go the ratings! that's why broadcasters pay more $ for the AFL

Only part of the new RL deal signed is the FTA component.
& we are in front .
But carry on with your delusions .

Different arrangements dipshit!
2.5 billion is a lot higher that 900 million!

Come back when the nrlol get any where near that

There no reply to that A.Dum.Phucker , you've got me

AFLcrap1 wrote:

Yep .
Fumblers can bitch all they want ,but that's the cold hard truth