Talking Footy

For comparison:

The AFL has a cash income (from TV rights) of $1178m over 5 years, or $235m per year.

The AFL has no fixed outgoings to clubs because the clubs receive strong cash inflows from high game attendance's: ticket sales, etc.

So the AFL has a lot of freedom to fund expansion clubs.

This, by the way, is why good crowds attending games make for financially healthy clubs.

BruceOfRedfernNSW wrote:

I'm not sure the NRL can expand, Leeroy.

I'm going to crunch some numbers here. I' m not an expert on this (Wookie knows more about this than me), but I'll have a crack and do my best.

The NRL receives a cash inflow of $925m over 5 years. That's annual income amounting to $185m per year.

They dispense $7.5m per year to each club. That' an annual outgoing of $120m.

Balance remaining each year, $65m.

That $65m is really stretched supporting the very weak clubs: Titans, Knights; and Wests and StGeorge (I think).

It costs about $20m per year to start and properly resource a new football club.

Now we are beginning to get a ballpark idea of the financial restraints inhibited the NRL's expansion plans.

I will humbly stand corrected if other posters can produce a better Income & Expense Statement than my effort.

If the NRL can see benefit in expansion-
for example introducing another Brisbane team ads value to the Tv Broadcast it most definitely will.
David Gyngel stated in 2012 said another Brisbane team would ad 100million to the tv broadcast.

NRL DEAL A$1.025 billion A$925 million in cash and A$100 million in contributed benefits ("contra")
This Excludes Digital Telstra $75million and NZ $100mill Radio (unknown)
which gives you a figure of 1.2Bilion.

AFL DEAL A$1.253 billion of which A$1.18 billion is in cash and the rest in contra
this includes DIgital Radio / everything in deal.

Yes AFL get more in gate takings and revenue per year.

But if the NRL can increase the Tv Broadcast and extras by just say 300million (which should be no problem)

they can easy fund 2 expansion sides.

The Two Deals are very similar.
and very interesting times ahead

BruceOfRedfernNSW wrote:

For comparison:

The AFL has a cash income (from TV rights) of $1178m over 5 years, or $235m per year.

The AFL has no fixed outgoings to clubs because the clubs receive strong cash inflows from high game attendance's: ticket sales, etc.

So the AFL has a lot of freedom to fund expansion clubs.

This, by the way, is why good crowds attending games make for financially healthy clubs.

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You dribbling ******

The NRL has banked 100 million in profits in the last 2 years
3 times more then the vflol
The vflol has clubs failing everywhere despite money being pumped into these failing organizations

Its the vflol that has hit its limits of expansion
It has nowhere else to go
Its done

The NRL will obtain a 2 billion media rights deal from 2018 & annual revenues of up to 600 million a year
By the end of 2017 it will have 200-250 million in the bank for expansion
We have 8 different bid teams looking to join the NRL
Our options for expansion are wide & varied .. near endless
what an exciting time for RL


One code is on the move
&
Its not yours wanker

why are NRL crowds dropping then raiderdick? >

The last 2 years have seen a decrease in NRL home and away attendance, yet it is even more dire this year. After 9 rounds last year the NRL averaged 17143, then of course the arse falls out of crowds during origin. However, after the first 9 rounds this year the NRL average only 15604, with origin still to come! Care to explain how this translates to a code on the move? Did you mean moving backwards??

Meanwhile the AFL are up in crowds compared to the same time last year, which just happened to be their second year of crowd growth in a row.

Xman wrote:

why are NRL crowds dropping then raiderdick? >

The last 2 years have seen a decrease in NRL home and away attendance, yet it is even more dire this year. After 9 rounds last year the NRL averaged 17143, then of course the arse falls out of crowds during origin. However, after the first 9 rounds this year the NRL average only 15604, with origin still to come! Care to explain how this translates to a code on the move? Did you mean moving backwards??

Meanwhile the AFL are up in crowds compared to the same time last year, which just happened to be their second year of crowd growth in a row.

Over the last 15 years Crowds in the NRL have pretty much stayed the same, not much Growth.

But the Game It self has EXPLODED for example Tv Rights, exposure, income, sponsorship. etc etc.

leeroy*NRL* wrote:

Xman wrote:

why are NRL crowds dropping then raiderdick? >

The last 2 years have seen a decrease in NRL home and away attendance, yet it is even more dire this year. After 9 rounds last year the NRL averaged 17143, then of course the arse falls out of crowds during origin. However, after the first 9 rounds this year the NRL average only 15604, with origin still to come! Care to explain how this translates to a code on the move? Did you mean moving backwards??

Meanwhile the AFL are up in crowds compared to the same time last year, which just happened to be their second year of crowd growth in a row.

Over the last 15 years Crowds in the NRL have pretty much stayed the same, not much Growth.

But the Game It self has EXPLODED for example Tv Rights, exposure, income, sponsorship. etc etc.

all codes have increased their revenue over the last 15 years you plonk, mainly due to TV revenue. However thats where it ends for the NRL, their sponsorship, membership and gate receipts pale in comparison to the AFL

Xman wrote:

leeroy*NRL* wrote:

Xman wrote:

why are NRL crowds dropping then raiderdick? >

The last 2 years have seen a decrease in NRL home and away attendance, yet it is even more dire this year. After 9 rounds last year the NRL averaged 17143, then of course the arse falls out of crowds during origin. However, after the first 9 rounds this year the NRL average only 15604, with origin still to come! Care to explain how this translates to a code on the move? Did you mean moving backwards??

Meanwhile the AFL are up in crowds compared to the same time last year, which just happened to be their second year of crowd growth in a row.

Over the last 15 years Crowds in the NRL have pretty much stayed the same, not much Growth.

But the Game It self has EXPLODED for example Tv Rights, exposure, income, sponsorship. etc etc.

all codes have increased their revenue over the last 15 years you plonk, mainly due to TV revenue. However thats where it ends for the NRL, their sponsorship, membership and gate receipts pale in comparison to the AFL

You complete ******.

I was stating that there crowds have stayed the same over the last decade.
However the NRL is heading in the right direction to everything Else they are doing.

Go back to your BUBBLE

Xman wrote:

why are NRL crowds dropping then raiderdick? >

The last 2 years have seen a decrease in NRL home and away attendance, yet it is even more dire this year. After 9 rounds last year the NRL averaged 17143, then of course the arse falls out of crowds during origin. However, after the first 9 rounds this year the NRL average only 15604, with origin still to come! Care to explain how this translates to a code on the move? Did you mean moving backwards??

Meanwhile the AFL are up in crowds compared to the same time last year, which just happened to be their second year of crowd growth in a row.

:_<>

They rose last year u stupid ch.u.n.t as has been explained many times in many threads

Do try n keep up fucktard

Xman wrote:

leeroy*NRL* wrote:

Xman wrote:

why are NRL crowds dropping then raiderdick? >

The last 2 years have seen a decrease in NRL home and away attendance, yet it is even more dire this year. After 9 rounds last year the NRL averaged 17143, then of course the arse falls out of crowds during origin. However, after the first 9 rounds this year the NRL average only 15604, with origin still to come! Care to explain how this translates to a code on the move? Did you mean moving backwards??

Meanwhile the AFL are up in crowds compared to the same time last year, which just happened to be their second year of crowd growth in a row.

Over the last 15 years Crowds in the NRL have pretty much stayed the same, not much Growth.

But the Game It self has EXPLODED for example Tv Rights, exposure, income, sponsorship. etc etc.

all codes have increased their revenue over the last 15 years you plonk, mainly due to TV revenue. However thats where it ends for the NRL, their sponsorship, membership and gate receipts pale in comparison to the AFL

Hmmm
Tell me u dribbling ******

Has any code increased theirs by 400% in 10 years ?

Ours will have by 2018

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

why are NRL crowds dropping then raiderdick? >

The last 2 years have seen a decrease in NRL home and away attendance, yet it is even more dire this year. After 9 rounds last year the NRL averaged 17143, then of course the arse falls out of crowds during origin. However, after the first 9 rounds this year the NRL average only 15604, with origin still to come! Care to explain how this translates to a code on the move? Did you mean moving backwards??

Meanwhile the AFL are up in crowds compared to the same time last year, which just happened to be their second year of crowd growth in a row.

:_<>

They rose last year u stupid ch.u.n.t as has been explained many times in many threads

Do try n keep up fucktard

not the home and away crowds. And this year has dropped substantially

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

leeroy*NRL* wrote:

Xman wrote:

why are NRL crowds dropping then raiderdick? >

The last 2 years have seen a decrease in NRL home and away attendance, yet it is even more dire this year. After 9 rounds last year the NRL averaged 17143, then of course the arse falls out of crowds during origin. However, after the first 9 rounds this year the NRL average only 15604, with origin still to come! Care to explain how this translates to a code on the move? Did you mean moving backwards??

Meanwhile the AFL are up in crowds compared to the same time last year, which just happened to be their second year of crowd growth in a row.

Over the last 15 years Crowds in the NRL have pretty much stayed the same, not much Growth.

But the Game It self has EXPLODED for example Tv Rights, exposure, income, sponsorship. etc etc.

all codes have increased their revenue over the last 15 years you plonk, mainly due to TV revenue. However thats where it ends for the NRL, their sponsorship, membership and gate receipts pale in comparison to the AFL

Hmmm
Tell me u dribbling ******

Has any code increased theirs by 400% in 10 years ?

Ours will have by 2018

until then, fuck off

leeroy*NRL* wrote:

Xman wrote:

leeroy*NRL* wrote:

Xman wrote:

why are NRL crowds dropping then raiderdick? >

The last 2 years have seen a decrease in NRL home and away attendance, yet it is even more dire this year. After 9 rounds last year the NRL averaged 17143, then of course the arse falls out of crowds during origin. However, after the first 9 rounds this year the NRL average only 15604, with origin still to come! Care to explain how this translates to a code on the move? Did you mean moving backwards??

Meanwhile the AFL are up in crowds compared to the same time last year, which just happened to be their second year of crowd growth in a row.

Over the last 15 years Crowds in the NRL have pretty much stayed the same, not much Growth.

But the Game It self has EXPLODED for example Tv Rights, exposure, income, sponsorship. etc etc.

all codes have increased their revenue over the last 15 years you plonk, mainly due to TV revenue. However thats where it ends for the NRL, their sponsorship, membership and gate receipts pale in comparison to the AFL

You complete ******.

I was stating that there crowds have stayed the same over the last decade.
However the NRL is heading in the right direction to everything Else they are doing.

Go back to your BUBBLE

theyre still miles behind on almost everything

Xman wrote:

leeroy*NRL* wrote:

Xman wrote:

leeroy*NRL* wrote:

Xman wrote:

why are NRL crowds dropping then raiderdick? >

The last 2 years have seen a decrease in NRL home and away attendance, yet it is even more dire this year. After 9 rounds last year the NRL averaged 17143, then of course the arse falls out of crowds during origin. However, after the first 9 rounds this year the NRL average only 15604, with origin still to come! Care to explain how this translates to a code on the move? Did you mean moving backwards??

Meanwhile the AFL are up in crowds compared to the same time last year, which just happened to be their second year of crowd growth in a row.

Over the last 15 years Crowds in the NRL have pretty much stayed the same, not much Growth.

But the Game It self has EXPLODED for example Tv Rights, exposure, income, sponsorship. etc etc.

all codes have increased their revenue over the last 15 years you plonk, mainly due to TV revenue. However thats where it ends for the NRL, their sponsorship, membership and gate receipts pale in comparison to the AFL

You complete ******.

I was stating that there crowds have stayed the same over the last decade.
However the NRL is heading in the right direction to everything Else they are doing.

Go back to your BUBBLE

theyre still miles behind on almost everything

Mate! Go to town & quote every fact and figute to prove your point, but they wont believe you and just scream liar & deflect & attempt to insult you.

Speaking of crowds.

Loved the NRL attendance in Sydney tonight. I am a roosters fan and happy to see them steamroll the doggies However what I also noticed Two Sydney sides head to head on a fine Friday night only managed to pull 17000 thousand loled. So much for Sydney being the heartland of RL. Time and time again we constantly see these poor crowd figures. Many funny enough are Sydney derbies.

The new kids on the block last week in RL heartland got close to tonight's figure. Quite embrassing really.

Also isn't the bulldogs the second most followed team in Sydney and third or fourth in the NRL? Their supporters don't like to go to games? Waste their weekly dole checks on kebabs and modifations on their cars.

Xman wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

why are NRL crowds dropping then raiderdick? >

The last 2 years have seen a decrease in NRL home and away attendance, yet it is even more dire this year. After 9 rounds last year the NRL averaged 17143, then of course the arse falls out of crowds during origin. However, after the first 9 rounds this year the NRL average only 15604, with origin still to come! Care to explain how this translates to a code on the move? Did you mean moving backwards??

Meanwhile the AFL are up in crowds compared to the same time last year, which just happened to be their second year of crowd growth in a row.

:_<>

They rose last year u stupid ch.u.n.t as has been explained many times in many threads

Do try n keep up fucktard

not the home and away crowds. And this year has dropped substantially

overall crowds went up
& this years will too