The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL

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Should natural violence be accepted in AFL and NRL

Yes, there's nothing better than players going toe to toe in the heat of battle
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No, I prefer they wouldn't hit each other at all
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You're the one who's not welcome, idiot! Because you're looking for violence where it DOESN'T BELONG!! What part of that don't you get? Oh that's right - you don't give a stuff.

And for all your talk about concussions being worse that having your jaw jacked?? Yeah right - try telling that to John Greening! He was in a coma for 24 hours because of a punch!! The king hit variety that is!! Not to mention that concussions are common place in boxing! Gee what do they do there - wrestle??

Perspective. Fine talk for someone who has zero!
Incessant emotion fuelled babble is your specialty. I've clearly indicated that king hits should not and are not allowed in the NRL under any circumstances. Now take your emotive rambling to back to a daycare centre near you, WHERE IT BELONGS. :lol:

Until you understand that violence belongs and is prevalent in both codes and is allowed within both codes rules you are not welcome at any marngrook ground, especially as an umpire [-X :lol:
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The NRL is a rougher and tougher sport, so it should be more violent.

1. While judiciaries have their place they cannot have near the same effect that players can have in administering prompt punishment for malicious unsposrtsmanlike behaviour. 4 weeks for a dislocated shoulder...pfffft

2. When will you get inside your thick buffoon skull that the AFL has not and will NEVER eliminate head injuries due to deliberate acts of violence? My videos/very brief research showed at least 5 intentional strikes to the head.

3. Marngrook is a violent sport, there is much more to be concerned about re head injuries due to an accident or intentional head shot during a game than in a rumble which occurs as a result of foul play. This is the same in RL. The rumbles ensure it is less likely a serious intentional head shot occurs during normal play.

4. Judds incident was by far and away worse than any incident in the NRL this year. I guess you're into cheap shots then eh?

5. Again you jump to conclusions and run on an emotional 'helen lovejoy/confused buffoonesque' argument. One more time for the emo dummies out there. Fighting is NOT allowed in the NRL unless the circumstances provide fair enough reason for it...and even then whoever throws the first punch will still be punished. The NRL takes a more lenient view than the AFL and adjudicates the context in which a fight breaks out in re to its ruling. The AFL does not do this and rather applies the blanket approach. This prohibitory approach has led to more dodgy cheap shot tactics among the player group and its awful to watch.
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Incessant emotion fuelled babble is your specialty. I've clearly indicated that king hits should not and are not allowed in the NRL under any circumstances. Now take your emotive rambling to back to a daycare centre near you, WHERE IT BELONGS. :lol:

Until you understand that violence belongs and is prevalent in both codes and is allowed within both codes rules you are not welcome at any marngrook ground, especially as an umpire [-X :lol:
As an active umpire I can tell you that you are wrong. Any violence that I see gets reported on the spot! You should be repudiating violence and not encouraging it, and that's why YOU are the one who should stay away from the sporting fields! You support king hits - because that is a part of the culture you want to see, and you can't get around that fact.

And you're the one babbling - not me.
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TLPG, please look up the definition of violence. :roll:

Working with baboons aint easy. :roll:

And as a seconder. Please refer to where i say i support king hits. :roll:

Your lying is occurring at an increasing rate. Tis therefore clear you're struggling. Please don't lie TLPG, it makes you look bad.

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You are the liar. You support the biff - therefore you support king hits. You are the one who's struggling because I've got you dead to rights and you can't handle it.
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TLPG please refer to where I stated i support king hits. Or forever be seen as a lying twit who knows not the difference between a bit of good old fashioned biffo (i.e mark price nrl) and king hits (i.e barry hall AFL). [-(
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Someone call KE a WAHHHHHambulance! :D :D :D
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TLPG why cant you refer to where I stated I support kinghits?

Oh, that's right, because you made it up. You will now be blessed with a new appropriate nicname. 'Mr Fiction'

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I notice on the weekend your vigilante justice system let you down badly.Three extremely dubious acts and both exponents walked off with not even a fat lip. Thank goodness for the judiciary seems they taught these boys a proper lesson. K.E.'s sensibilities and politics are from a different time but judging by the reaction of many league fans over Inglis's hit the times they are a changing. Time to put down your fists sir and use your greatest asset your mind.But unfortunately for many like K.E the reverse is true.
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King-Eliagh wrote:
The NRL is a rougher and tougher sport, so it should be more violent.

1. While judiciaries have their place they cannot have near the same effect that players can have in administering prompt punishment for malicious unsposrtsmanlike behaviour. 4 weeks for a dislocated shoulder...pfffft

2. When will you get inside your thick buffoon skull that the AFL has not and will NEVER eliminate head injuries due to deliberate acts of violence? My videos/very brief research showed at least 5 intentional strikes to the head.

3. Marngrook is a violent sport, there is much more to be concerned about re head injuries due to an accident or intentional head shot during a game than in a rumble which occurs as a result of foul play. This is the same in RL. The rumbles ensure it is less likely a serious intentional head shot occurs during normal play.

4. Judds incident was by far and away worse than any incident in the NRL this year. I guess you're into cheap shots then eh?

5. Again you jump to conclusions and run on an emotional 'helen lovejoy/confused buffoonesque' argument. One more time for the emo dummies out there. Fighting is NOT allowed in the NRL unless the circumstances provide fair enough reason for it...and even then whoever throws the first punch will still be punished. The NRL takes a more lenient view than the AFL and adjudicates the context in which a fight breaks out in re to its ruling. The AFL does not do this and rather applies the blanket approach. This prohibitory approach has led to more dodgy cheap shot tactics among the player group and its awful to watch.
1. So you advocate players punching on as a solution for minor incidents? You're a mega-bogan! :roll:

2. No, you showed deliberate acts involving minor impact. Next you'll claim a kiss is a deliberate head high contact! :roll: the AFL have all but erradicated high deliberate high impact head high contact like hay maker bunches. The NRL have many every season! [-X

3. Contact sport involves contact. Derrrr.. :roll: doesn't mean deliberate bunches should be legal just because incidental contact is common. Less is better than more, especially when deliberate violent contact is unnecessary. Surely the image of the sport alone suffers by allowing the sort of fighting we saw in the NRL last year. If I find it nauseating imagine what your average female thinks about behaviour like that. #-o

4. can't see I've heard of anyone dying from a chicken wing injury. :lol: :lol: :lol: plenty die from punches each year.

5. There is never a good reason for fighting in a modern society. Ever! [-X
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pookus wrote:
I notice on the weekend your vigilante justice system let you down badly.Three extremely dubious acts and both exponents walked off with not even a fat lip. Thank goodness for the judiciary seems they taught these boys a proper lesson. K.E.'s sensibilities and politics are from a different time but judging by the reaction of many league fans over Inglis's hit the times they are a changing. Time to put down your fists sir and use your greatest asset your mind.But unfortunately for many like K.E the reverse is true.
Here here. How can anyone justify violence like I've shown in today's modern society? :roll:
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Pookus if you're referring to Inglis's shoulder charge the majority of players want this in the game. I didnt see any of the other incidents last weekend.

All you folks do is chant this and chant that. Fact is, do we see the players calling for this ruling to be changed in RL? No, and I doubt it was the players who called for it in the AFL. The people who want this sort of change are a minority of frightened folks who dont play and have weak stomachs, like Xman.

Refer all you want to your silly concept of a 'modern society', fact is this 'modern society' you speak of conducts lethal violence on a grander scale than ever before in the history of mankind so Xman hows about you take your 'modern society' and stick it up your fat hairy ass? :lol: That one goes for you too pookus you silly ghandi quoting misunderstood daffodil! :lol:

Again I'll say it, if you feel "nauseous" :lol: when you see violence on the field then perhaps you are watching the wrong sport. Xman I suggest you try watching the synchronised swimming this year at the olympics and perhaps develop a new passion?

On a more serious note, if i were ever to feel "nauseous" when violence occurs, I'd be vommiting my guts out over the judd incident rather than over two blokes standing toe to toe.

And lastly are you ever able to keep your comments in context? Your point 1 above is simply another example of your emotional distraughtness and inability to 'stomach' things properly. Get a grip. I've said countless times in this thread that I believe punching on willy nilly is not on, as is the case in the nrl. It should however be looked upon leniently when SERIOUS unsportsmanlilike conduct occurs. I.e judd deciding to dislocate a pinned down man's shoulder. Comprehende?

Please dont come back taking this point out of context again. Develop some emotional and physical coping mechanisms for your nausea and then get back to me with a more calm and thought out response.

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King-Eliagh wrote:
TLPG why cant you refer to where I stated I support kinghits?

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Who's your daddy TLPG?

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You support on field violence. Therefore you support king hits. Simple.
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King-Eliagh wrote:
Pookus if you're referring to Inglis's shoulder charge the majority of players want this in the game. I didnt see any of the other incidents last weekend.

All you folks do is chant this and chant that. Fact is, do we see the players calling for this ruling to be changed in RL? No, and I doubt it was the players who called for it in the AFL. The people who want this sort of change are a minority of frightened folks who dont play and have weak stomachs, like Xman.

Refer all you want to your silly concept of a 'modern society', fact is this 'modern society' you speak of conducts lethal violence on a grander scale than ever before in the history of mankind so Xman hows about you take your 'modern society' and stick it up your fat hairy ass? :lol: That one goes for you too pookus you silly ghandi quoting misunderstood daffodil! :lol:

Again I'll say it, if you feel "nauseous" :lol: when you see violence on the field then perhaps you are watching the wrong sport. Xman I suggest you try watching the synchronised swimming this year at the olympics and perhaps develop a new passion?

On a more serious note, if i were ever to feel "nauseous" when violence occurs, I'd be vommiting my guts out over the judd incident rather than over two blokes standing toe to toe.

And lastly are you ever able to keep your comments in context? Your point 1 above is simply another example of your emotional distraughtness and inability to 'stomach' things properly. Get a grip. I've said countless times in this thread that I believe punching on willy nilly is not on, as is the case in the nrl. It should however be looked upon leniently when SERIOUS unsportsmanlilike conduct occurs. I.e judd deciding to dislocate a pinned down man's shoulder. Comprehende?

Please dont come back taking this point out of context again. Develop some emotional and physical coping mechanisms for your nausea and then get back to me with a more calm and thought out response.

Thankyou.
Bud the reason behind the violence in modern society is we have let it fester and the attitude of people like yourself have perpetuated that. You obviously can't understand that violence outside of clear guidelines is wrong. I love violent sports but I am smart enough to understand that within these sports the rules must be enforced with strength and structure for them to survive. If we let players become judge jury and executioner they will always make errors of judgement and look like thugs. And what offends me the most is the message we send our youth. Young men should not be made to feel bad for being aggressive but they should be taught that a violent reaction to solve any problem is wrong. Teach our youth to unleash their aggression in a sportsmanlike manner and when they don't punish them with the proper authorities. Never condone people hitting eachother out of retaliation and anger. If you can't understand this simple concept then you will never understand what creates the acceptance of violence. And the Mahatmas words make a lot of sense champ read some.
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King-Eliagh wrote:
Pookus if you're referring to Inglis's shoulder charge the majority of players want this in the game. I didnt see any of the other incidents last weekend.

All you folks do is chant this and chant that. Fact is, do we see the players calling for this ruling to be changed in RL? No, and I doubt it was the players who called for it in the AFL. The people who want this sort of change are a minority of frightened folks who dont play and have weak stomachs, like Xman.

Refer all you want to your silly concept of a 'modern society', fact is this 'modern society' you speak of conducts lethal violence on a grander scale than ever before in the history of mankind so Xman hows about you take your 'modern society' and stick it up your fat hairy ass? :lol: That one goes for you too pookus you silly ghandi quoting misunderstood daffodil! :lol:

Again I'll say it, if you feel "nauseous" :lol: when you see violence on the field then perhaps you are watching the wrong sport. Xman I suggest you try watching the synchronised swimming this year at the olympics and perhaps develop a new passion?

On a more serious note, if i were ever to feel "nauseous" when violence occurs, I'd be vommiting my guts out over the judd incident rather than over two blokes standing toe to toe.

And lastly are you ever able to keep your comments in context? Your point 1 above is simply another example of your emotional distraughtness and inability to 'stomach' things properly. Get a grip. I've said countless times in this thread that I believe punching on willy nilly is not on, as is the case in the nrl. It should however be looked upon leniently when SERIOUS unsportsmanlilike conduct occurs. I.e judd deciding to dislocate a pinned down man's shoulder. Comprehende?

Please dont come back taking this point out of context again. Develop some emotional and physical coping mechanisms for your nausea and then get back to me with a more calm and thought out response.

Thankyou.
What a load of dribble! :roll:

If you can't distinguish the seriousness between Judd's mistake and the fights seen in than manly storm game you are a bigger moron than I thought.

Fact is no one dies from a chicken wing tackle. People die all the time from violent physical assaults as seen regularly in the NRL, which are not part of the game itself, but still allowed for the entertainment of meatheads like you! [-X [-X

Violence, as part of a contact sport, is one thing. Violence outside the laws of contact sport, and in society, is never the answer to a problem. That's why it's illegal in the community, and should be so on the sporting field.
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