Talking Footy

So Xman I'll just have to believe your completely unbiased and independent view ey?

Storm2013 wrote:

Stewie wrote:

Storm2013 wrote:

You follow up with another stupid comment.... When will it end!!!

So you think that comparing 2 different sports, 2 different population areas and 2 codes that have vastly different membership history and funding is fair and reasonable??

Like I said you are better off comparing Collingwood to port.

Comparing the lowest budget of teams from both codes gives you a good insight into which is the richer sport.

No it doesn't show which code is richer. It show which code is wasteful. Talking about waste is +$200 mil into the sun and gws!! We all know the tv execs sat down and worked out that the nrl is worth more per minute and paid accordingly!

Wasteful lol! A clubs football budget is important to them for attracting the best personnel to the team and having the best facilities which can lead to better performances.

A clubs football dept is important. If a clubs income is 15 mil a year and they spend 20mil on the dept there is a $5 mil shortfall. Understand stewie. I say that because I think you suffer the same problem that port do. Living beyond your means. In 10yrs that's $50 mil. Understand stewie!!

Port might have to let go of 1 or 2 of there 15-20 strong "essential" masseurs! Oh no.

Storm2013 wrote:

Stewie wrote:

Storm2013 wrote:

You follow up with another stupid comment.... When will it end!!!

So you think that comparing 2 different sports, 2 different population areas and 2 codes that have vastly different membership history and funding is fair and reasonable??

Like I said you are better off comparing Collingwood to port.

Comparing the lowest budget of teams from both codes gives you a good insight into which is the richer sport.

No it doesn't show which code is richer. It show which code is wasteful. Talking about waste is +$200 mil into the sun and gws!! We all know the tv execs sat down and worked out that the nrl is worth more per minute and paid accordingly!

Its not Wasteful? its wealth, privileges, facilities, stadiums

Storm2013 wrote:

A clubs football dept is important. If a clubs income is 15 mil a year and they spend 20mil on the dept there is a $5 mil shortfall. Understand stewie. I say that because I think you suffer the same problem that port do. Living beyond your means. In 10yrs that's $50 mil. Understand stewie!!

Port might have to let go of 1 or 2 of there 15-20 strong "essential" masseurs! Oh no.

AFL clubs are non for profit. They budget for an expected revenue and plan to spend all of it. If they have a poor year on and off the field they often make a loss. They usually address this the next year.

Its far easier to cut costs than find more revenue.

Xman it's wasteful when $50 mil would of done the same thing.

Storm2013 wrote:

Xman it's wasteful when $50 mil would of done the same thing.

So, what, you refuse 20m?

They have the money so they spend it. Why keep it? They don't have shareholders

Xman wrote:

Storm2013 wrote:

A clubs football dept is important. If a clubs income is 15 mil a year and they spend 20mil on the dept there is a $5 mil shortfall. Understand stewie. I say that because I think you suffer the same problem that port do. Living beyond your means. In 10yrs that's $50 mil. Understand stewie!!

Port might have to let go of 1 or 2 of there 15-20 strong "essential" masseurs! Oh no.

AFL clubs are non for profit. They budget for an expected revenue and plan to spend all of it. If they have a poor year on and off the field they often make a loss. They usually address this the next year.

Its far easier to cut costs than find more revenue.

It's one thing to say that Xman and its another to actually do it. As your silly little friend from port can't understand simple economics.

Xman wrote:

Storm2013 wrote:

Xman it's wasteful when $50 mil would of done the same thing.

So, what, you refuse 20m?

They have the money so they spend it. Why keep it? They don't have shareholders

The thing is the dont have the money!!! But yet they still spend it!!

Storm2013 wrote:

Xman wrote:

Storm2013 wrote:

A clubs football dept is important. If a clubs income is 15 mil a year and they spend 20mil on the dept there is a $5 mil shortfall. Understand stewie. I say that because I think you suffer the same problem that port do. Living beyond your means. In 10yrs that's $50 mil. Understand stewie!!

Port might have to let go of 1 or 2 of there 15-20 strong "essential" masseurs! Oh no.

AFL clubs are non for profit. They budget for an expected revenue and plan to spend all of it. If they have a poor year on and off the field they often make a loss. They usually address this the next year.

Its far easier to cut costs than find more revenue.

It's one thing to say that Xman and its another to actually do it. As your silly little friend from port can't understand simple economics.

Xman wrote:

Storm2013 wrote:

Xman it's wasteful when $50 mil would of done the same thing.

So, what, you refuse 20m?

They have the money so they spend it. Why keep it? They don't have shareholders

The thing is the dont have the money!!! But yet they still spend it!!

No, you still don't get it. The teams who make a loss dont are due to poor performance, less gate receipts, less memberships etc. there is also one offs like investments, like the lions.

These teams adjust their expenditure in future years to account for the loss.

AFL clubs have far higher revenues than NRL clubs and can afford to cut costs to balance the books. The same cant be said for many NRL teams, like the sharks, because their expenditures are already bare bones.

Update

NRL (2012 number's in brackets)
Brisbane – 19,531 (26,216)
Canterbury-Bankstown – 15,863 (13,544)
Canberra – 7,720 (8,264)
Cronulla – 8,612 (5,126)
Gold Coast – 8,064 (6,674)
Manly – 8,693 (10,466)
Melbourne – 12,990 (14,762)
Newcastle – 15,683 (19,399)
New Zealand – 8,607 (10,938)
North Queensland – 10,141 (10,336)
Parramatta – 14,018 (11,012)
Penrith – 5,875 (5,686)
St.George Illawarra – 18,353 (19,223)
South Sydney – 23,425 (22,154)
Sydney – 11,512 (10,256)
Wests Tigers – 10,663 (10,305)

Re: AFL vs NRL (Memberships in 2013)

Postby Brandz » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:46 am
Update

NRL (2012 number's in brackets)
Brisbane – 19,531 (26,216)
Canterbury-Bankstown – 16,003(13,544)
Canberra – 8,221 (8,264)
Cronulla – 8,612 (5,126)
Gold Coast – 8,064 (6,674)
Manly – 9.086 (10,466)
Melbourne – 12,990 (14,762)
Newcastle – 15,775 (19,399)
New Zealand – 8,607 (10,938)
North Queensland – 10,396 (10,336)
Parramatta – 14,720 (11,012)
Penrith – 5,875 (5,686)
St.George Illawarra – 18,410 (19,223)
South Sydney – 23,543 (22,154)
Sydney – 11,753(10,256)
Wests Tigers – 10,783 (10,305)

NRL now have over 200,000 club members, well up from this time last year or any year before that. My prediction 230,000 by the end of the year (which will be another record breaking membership year), seems like the strategic plan is already working. 400,000 members by 2017 seems impossible especially for a code that's always getting itself in turmoil but the way things are going it now seems very possible.

Current Total *200,533

http://www.nrl.com/nrl-five-year-strate ... fault.aspx

nice

2013 Membership Totals (as of 13/3/2013)
Collingwood - 72,000+ (Target - 75,000)
West Coast - 55,516 (not updated since 13/3)
Hawthorn -54,805
Richmond - 49,256
Essendon - 45,522
Adelaide - 42,000+ (no new figure in months)
Fremantle - 40,000+ (no new figure in months)
Carlton - 40,149
Geelong - 34,032
Port Adel. - 33,135
Sydney - 30,000+
St. Kilda - 29,340
Melbourne - 27,395
North Melb - 27,165
Western B - 22,554
Brisbane - 15,532
Greater WS - 11,014
Gold Coast - 10,454

Total - 639,869

morley101 wrote:

Re: AFL vs NRL (Memberships in 2013)

Postby Brandz » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:46 am
Update

NRL (2012 number's in brackets)
Brisbane – 19,531 (26,216)
Canterbury-Bankstown – 15,863 (13,544)
Canberra – 7,720 (8,264)
Cronulla – 8,612 (5,126)
Gold Coast – 8,064 (6,674)
Manly – 8,921 (10,466)
Melbourne – 12,990 (14,762)
Newcastle – 15,726 (19,399)
New Zealand – 8,607 (10,938)
North Queensland – 10,141 (10,336)
Parramatta – 14,473 (11,012)
Penrith – 5,875 (5,686)
St.George Illawarra – 18,410 (19,223)
South Sydney – 23,425 (22,154)
Sydney – 11,512 (10,256)
Wests Tigers – 10,663 (10,305)

Very poor membership numbers for the Titans when compared with the Suns in the AFL. Very poor indeed.