Fight Club - Football Club Memberships

[Raiderdave]

Xman your an idiot!!

As you have stated the nrl have increased there memberships by 400%. Pretty impressive in its self. What your not smart enough to understand is that the nrl have just started to get serious about memberships. The past 5 years the nrl supporters who go to the games have been taking up the memberships. Hence why the increase is minimal. 16k per game average with 16 teams is 256k and until the nrl reach that point the nrl won't grow crowds. But that time is now! It coincides with millions and millions of $$$$$ in tv money. The nrl have 4-5 teams the have already reached last years figures. Yet the AFL is yet to get 1 team. % growth is the real indicator and the AFL are struggling big time.

Nrl are growing rapidly!!

Classic!
It's you're not your!

Read the thread and youll see Raiderdave claiming memberships are directly related to crowd size yet the NRLs crowds remained the same after a 400% increase in memberships.
:

I have proven my point categorically

that membership increases mean increased average attendances

if

if

the majority of your memberships are not ..... fridge magnet .. bumper sticker memberships

the NRL's are clearly not
the VFL's

clearly are

[Raiderdave]

Xman your an idiot!!

As you have stated the nrl have increased there memberships by 400%. Pretty impressive in its self. What your not smart enough to understand is that the nrl have just started to get serious about memberships. The past 5 years the nrl supporters who go to the games have been taking up the memberships. Hence why the increase is minimal. 16k per game average with 16 teams is 256k and until the nrl reach that point the nrl won't grow crowds. But that time is now! It coincides with millions and millions of $$$$$ in tv money. The nrl have 4-5 teams the have already reached last years figures. Yet the AFL is yet to get 1 team. % growth is the real indicator and the AFL are struggling big time.

Nrl are growing rapidly!!

the NRL will have 10 of its teams surpassing their 2012 membership tallies by next weekend ( season start)
all 16 will surpass their 2012 numbers well before June 30

the VFL will have 1... maybe 2 of their 18 do the same by the time their comp kicks off in 3 weeks
&
I don't think any more then 6 will end up ahead of last years numbers , meaning the VFL's total membership tally for 2013
could be below 2012's

oh dear

[Stewie]

But Raiderdave you've claimed that a rise in memberships results in higher attendances for the nRL, but with the increased memberships since 2005 their crowds have remained stagnant.

[Storm2013]

Xman your an idiot!!

As you have stated the nrl have increased there memberships by 400%. Pretty impressive in its self. What your not smart enough to understand is that the nrl have just started to get serious about memberships. The past 5 years the nrl supporters who go to the games have been taking up the memberships. Hence why the increase is minimal. 16k per game average with 16 teams is 256k and until the nrl reach that point the nrl won't grow crowds. But that time is now! It coincides with millions and millions of $$$$$ in tv money. The nrl have 4-5 teams the have already reached last years figures. Yet the AFL is yet to get 1 team. % growth is the real indicator and the AFL are struggling big time.

Nrl are growing rapidly!!

Classic!
It's you're not your!

Read the thread and youll see Raiderdave claiming memberships are directly related to crowd size yet the NRLs crowds remained the same after a 400% increase in memberships. Yeah, really good logic


I totally agree with you and said exactly the same thing earlier. Occasional fans become financial members but the crowds stay the same size! Tell that to Raiderdave.

Lol spelling mistake .... My bad! I'm sure I'm not the only one to ever spell a word wrong!

But Xman you still don't get it. I also think memberships directly relate to crowds. However the nrl is playing catch up with memberships and at the moment the nrl doesn't fall into the (increase memberships, increase crowds) category like the AFL are in. The nrl are getting to that spot this year hopefully. So I would expect numbers to increase dramatically. So Xman in your opinion you don't believe a increase in membership relates to increase crowds? or are you just arguing for the fun of it??

[Raiderdave]

But Raiderdave you've claimed that a rise in memberships results in higher attendances for the nRL, but with the increased memberships since 2005 their crowds have remained stagnant.

while every other football code crowds have plummeted

the NRL hasn't
why

increased memberships .. proper memberships ... not VFL ones that involve a cat or a fridge magnet
Raider D

when will he stop being right

[Xman]

Xman your an idiot!!

As you have stated the nrl have increased there memberships by 400%. Pretty impressive in its self. What your not smart enough to understand is that the nrl have just started to get serious about memberships. The past 5 years the nrl supporters who go to the games have been taking up the memberships. Hence why the increase is minimal. 16k per game average with 16 teams is 256k and until the nrl reach that point the nrl won't grow crowds. But that time is now! It coincides with millions and millions of $$$$$ in tv money. The nrl have 4-5 teams the have already reached last years figures. Yet the AFL is yet to get 1 team. % growth is the real indicator and the AFL are struggling big time.

Nrl are growing rapidly!!

Classic!
It's you're not your!

Read the thread and youll see Raiderdave claiming memberships are directly related to crowd size yet the NRLs crowds remained the same after a 400% increase in memberships. Yeah, really good logic


I totally agree with you and said exactly the same thing earlier. Occasional fans become financial members but the crowds stay the same size! Tell that to Raiderdave.

Lol spelling mistake .... My bad! I'm sure I'm not the only one to ever spell a word wrong!

But Xman you still don't get it. I also think memberships directly relate to crowds. However the nrl is playing catch up with memberships and at the moment the nrl doesn't fall into the (increase memberships, increase crowds) category like the AFL are in. The nrl are getting to that spot this year hopefully. So I would expect numbers to increase dramatically. So Xman in your opinion you don't believe a increase in membership relates to increase crowds? or are you just arguing for the fun of it??

I believe it has a moderate affect on crowd size because what tends to happen is fans who are already going tend to still go but as a member. and i agree with your claim the NRl are changing casual attendees into members, hence their crowd size hasnt changed, theyve just become members. The argument began over Raiderdave's claim the giants will increase crowd size because they have increased memberships. This situation will be similar to to what you said about the NRL, a new club that has just begun and is converting casual fans into members.

As for your spelling mistake, its common but funny when combined with an insult about someone else being an idiot

[Stewie]

But Raiderdave you've claimed that a rise in memberships results in higher attendances for the nRL, but with the increased memberships since 2005 their crowds have remained stagnant.

while every other football code crowds have plummeted

the NRL hasn't
why

increased memberships .. proper memberships ... not VFL ones that involve a cat or a fridge magnet
Raider D

when will he stop being right

Shouldn't the nRL's "increased proper memberships" have resulted in increased crowds? Why haven't they?

Dumbarse!

[morley101]

NRL (2012 number's bolded)
Brisbane – 18,882 (26,216)
Canterbury Bulldogs – 14,003(13,544)
Canberra – 7,204 (8,264) (No updates for 2 weeks)
Cronulla Sharks – 8,000(5,126)
Gold Coast – 6,458 (6,674) (No updates for 2 weeks)
Manly – 7,954 (10,466) (no updates for 2 weeks)
Melbourne – 10,505 (14,762)
Newcastle – 14,808 (19,399)
New Zealand – 7,438 (10,938) (No updates for 3 weeks)
North Queensland – 10,047 (10,336)
Parramatta Eels – 13,006 (11,012)
Penrith – 4,238 (5,686) ( No updates for 3 weeks)
St.George – 17,298 (19,223)
South Sydney – 22,270 (22,154)
Sydney – 9,816(10,256)
Wests Tigers – 9,546(10,305)

[eelofwest]

Xman your an idiot!!

As you have stated the nrl have increased there memberships by 400%. Pretty impressive in its self. What your not smart enough to understand is that the nrl have just started to get serious about memberships. The past 5 years the nrl supporters who go to the games have been taking up the memberships. Hence why the increase is minimal. 16k per game average with 16 teams is 256k and until the nrl reach that point the nrl won't grow crowds. But that time is now! It coincides with millions and millions of $$$$$ in tv money. The nrl have 4-5 teams the have already reached last years figures. Yet the AFL is yet to get 1 team. % growth is the real indicator and the AFL are struggling big time.

Nrl are growing rapidly!!

the NRL will have 10 of its teams surpassing their 2012 membership tallies by next weekend ( season start)
all 16 will surpass their 2012 numbers well before June 30

the VFL will have 1... maybe 2 of their 18 do the same by the time their comp kicks off in 3 weeks
&
I don't think any more then 6 will end up ahead of last years numbers , meaning the VFL's total membership tally for 2013
could be below 2012's

oh dear

( 2012 )/ 2013 Membership Totals (as of of 1/3/2013)
Collingwood - 69,000+ (72688)
West Coast - 54,801 (57,377)
Hawthorn - 50,621 (60,841)
Adelaide - 42,000+ (45,105)
Essendon - 43,732 (47,708)
Richmond - 45,118 (53,027)
Fremantle - 40,000+ (42,918)
Carlton - 36,912 (45,800)
Geelong - 32,056 (40,205)
Port Adel. - 29,726 (35,543)
St. Kilda - 25,870 (35,440)
Sydney - 27,123 (29,873)
Melbourne - 24,801 (35,489)
North Melb - 24,356 (33,423)
Western B - 20,923 (30,007)
Brisbane - 14,805 (20,762)
Greater WS - 10,386 (10,241)
Gold Coast - 9,316 (11,204)


AFL on the decline.....

[Brandz]

NRL (2012 number's bolded)
Brisbane – 18,882 (26,216)
Canterbury Bulldogs – 14,003(13,544)
Canberra – 7,204 (8,264) (No updates for 2 weeks)
Cronulla Sharks – 8,000(5,126)
Gold Coast – 6,458 (6,674) (No updates for 2 weeks)
Manly – 7,954 (10,466) (no updates for 2 weeks)
Melbourne – 10,505 (14,762)
Newcastle – 14,808 (19,399)
New Zealand – 7,438 (10,938) (No updates for 3 weeks)
North Queensland – 10,047 (10,336)
Parramatta Eels – 13,006 (11,012)
Penrith – 4,238 (5,686) ( No updates for 3 weeks)
St.George – 17,298 (19,223)
South Sydney – 22,270 (22,154)
Sydney – 9,816(10,256)
Wests Tigers – 9,546(10,305)

According to today's daily telegraph & club websites
6 NRL clubs have now surpassed 2012 numbers =D>

NRL (2012 number's bolded)
Brisbane – 18,882 (26,216)
Canterbury-Bankstown – 14,623 (13,544)
Canberra – 7,390 (8,264)
Cronulla – 8,031 (5,126)
Gold Coast – 6,734 (6,674)
Manly – 7,387 (10,466)
Melbourne – 11,200 (14,762)
Newcastle – 15,011 (19,399)
New Zealand – 7,326 (10,938)
North Queensland – 9,753 (10,336)
Parramatta – 13,006 (11,012)
Penrith – 5,572 (5,686)
St.George Illawarra – 17,298 (19,223)
South Sydney – 22,394 (22,154)
Sydney – 10,614 (10,256)
Wests Tigers – 9,546 (10,305)

[Xman]

Xman your an idiot!!

As you have stated the nrl have increased there memberships by 400%. Pretty impressive in its self. What your not smart enough to understand is that the nrl have just started to get serious about memberships. The past 5 years the nrl supporters who go to the games have been taking up the memberships. Hence why the increase is minimal. 16k per game average with 16 teams is 256k and until the nrl reach that point the nrl won't grow crowds. But that time is now! It coincides with millions and millions of $$$$$ in tv money. The nrl have 4-5 teams the have already reached last years figures. Yet the AFL is yet to get 1 team. % growth is the real indicator and the AFL are struggling big time.

Nrl are growing rapidly!!

the NRL will have 10 of its teams surpassing their 2012 membership tallies by next weekend ( season start)
all 16 will surpass their 2012 numbers well before June 30

the VFL will have 1... maybe 2 of their 18 do the same by the time their comp kicks off in 3 weeks
&
I don't think any more then 6 will end up ahead of last years numbers , meaning the VFL's total membership tally for 2013
could be below 2012's

oh dear

( 2012 )/ 2013 Membership Totals (as of of 1/3/2013)
Collingwood - 69,000+ (72688)
West Coast - 54,801 (57,377)
Hawthorn - 50,621 (60,841)
Adelaide - 42,000+ (45,105)
Essendon - 43,732 (47,708)
Richmond - 45,118 (53,027)
Fremantle - 40,000+ (42,918)
Carlton - 36,912 (45,800)
Geelong - 32,056 (40,205)
Port Adel. - 29,726 (35,543)
St. Kilda - 25,870 (35,440)
Sydney - 27,123 (29,873)
Melbourne - 24,801 (35,489)
North Melb - 24,356 (33,423)
Western B - 20,923 (30,007)
Brisbane - 14,805 (20,762)
Greater WS - 10,386 (10,241)
Gold Coast - 9,316 (11,204)


AFL on the decline.....

About a month out from the season, with the peak not achieved til nearly June, how is that "on the decline"?

[Stewie]

Port Adelaide passed 30,000 today. 30,167.

[Xman]

Gws 10,524

More than 8 NRL teams............

[Stewie]

Gws 10,524

More than 8 NRL teams............

=D> =D> =D>

[Raiderdave]

Gws 10,524

More than 8 NRL teams............

actually less then ALL 16 NRL clubs

for members in their backyard ... which is the only thing that counts

they have 3500 members in western sydney
2000 less then our lowest club

Penrith