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eelofwest wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
Unfortunately for all of us here debating which code got the better deal, we do know the exact amount of money for the NRL naming/most of the online content. From all reports it is close to 100 million but could be anywhere from 100 -180 million (I think 150 would be max but what do I know).
More info below Pies.

the NRL will also be getting revenue from our online tablet/phone service.
THE NRL's new media rights deal has put the game within shouting distance of the AFL's rich broadcast deal - considered the standard bearer of modern rights contracts - and places further pressure on the NRL to raise the salary cap.

ARLC commissioner John Grant confirmed Telstra had extended its major sponsorship yesterday while revealing fans will also be able to watch games live on their mobile phones and tablets.

The announcement came as the latest round of collective bargaining was taking place between the NRL and the players association across town.

By securing Telstra as a naming rights sponsor and building a new media element into the deal, the ARLC has secured the latest round of a series of contract negotiations that will ultimately see the game rival the AFL's much vaunted $1.25 billion deal.

"We have still got radio and international rights there to go, and New Zealand rights to come yet,'' Grant said.

"Our assessment is that we will be $1.2 billion plus at the end of all that.

"It's a wonderful outcome.''

Grant's enthusiasm is well placed.

When the NRL first began its broadcasting negotiations the AFL figure was dismissed as unachievable, despite the interest from all three networks.

And while there are differences in both the NRL and AFL deals that make an "apples for apples'' comparison next to impossible, the ARLC is ecstatic with the outcomes.

It naturally led to discussions on how it would affect the current round of collective bargaining negotiations, where the players association is pushing for a 20 per cent pay rise.

While Grant acknowledged there would be an expectation to bankroll the extra funds into the salary cap, he said it was "not necessarily'' the case.

"That's the discussion we're having with the players at the moment and given we're mid-negotiations it's not appropriate for me to comment on that,'' he said.

"What I will say is the AFL has been in the business, on significant incomes, for 15 years and we have just started."

Both the AFL and NRL contracts contain contra deals, making comparisons difficult.

For example, the AFL has an IPTV element built into its contract, allowing one game per week to be shown on its website. But it receives no revenue for it.

The NRL will receive revenue from tablet viewers, who will have to subscribe through an app.
http://www.zdnet.com/au/telstra-denies- ... 000008658/
Telstra and the Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) today signed a five-year rights deal for the broadcasting of live matches on mobiles and tablets for close to AU$180 million.

The negotiations for the rights had been taking place since last year and, at the time, Optus had pre-emptively taken the National Rugby League (NRL) to court seeking to prove that its TV cloud-recording application TV Now was not a breach of the NRL's copyright. The app allowed iPhone users to play live broadcast content within two minutes of it going to air. Telstra became a party to the case on the NRL's side because of the negotiations over broadcasting rights.

Optus ultimately lost the case and had subsequently shut down the TV Now app and, at the time, Telstra welcomed the ruling and what it would mean for broadcasting rights in the digital space.

Today, Telstra and the ARLC wouldn't disclose the value of the new deal, but said that it was worth double the 2007 agreement, which was reportedly worth AU$90 million, putting the deal at around AU$180 million and close to the value of the agreement Telstra had signed with the Australian Football League (AFL) for its mobile broadcast rights.
seems parra was right ..... it is 180 million :cool:

& I read somewhere the revenue shared arrangement for non telstra customers accessing the NRL .. could be worth as much as 20 million to the NRL ova the 5 years

bringing the value of our naming & online rights .... to 200 million for the next 5 years
add this to the 1.025 billion for Aust TV
& add 100 to 150 million from the kiwis
15 million for radio

& we're at .... 1.340 Billion to 1.390 Billion
8-[
gawd stuff me swinging .... what a result
Stand & applaud the ARLC people ... stand & applaud =D> =D> =D>
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

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So Telstra are the major sponsor of the nRL, own the online/internet rights for the league and all clubs and get to broadcast matches on their phone/tablet devices (not exclusively) and only pay $100 million? Either Telstra is getting a bargain or the value of the nRL isn't worth a great deal compared to the AFL in this circumstance. I think it would be the latter. :wink:
is litteracy an issue for you knob ? ....

try 180 million as per the article above
& up to another 20 million on top with the revenue sharing arrangment from non telstra customers

it seems the VFL ... officially ... has the 2nd biggest media rights deal in Australia :cool:
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

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Even the reporter has no idea comparing a 6 year deal to a 5 year deal and doubling it. He is also only talking about the media rights and not the naming rights. No one knows what the real figure is.
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piesman2011 wrote:
Even the reporter has no idea comparing a 6 year deal to a 5 year deal and doubling it.

no ..... he said the new deal was worth close to 180 million

end of :cool:
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
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Raiderdave wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
Even the reporter has no idea comparing a 6 year deal to a 5 year deal and doubling it.

no ..... he said the new deal was worth close to 180 million

end of :cool:
I think you just proved my point.
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Raiderdave wrote:
Stewie wrote:
So Telstra are the major sponsor of the nRL, own the online/internet rights for the league and all clubs and get to broadcast matches on their phone/tablet devices (not exclusively) and only pay $100 million? Either Telstra is getting a bargain or the value of the nRL isn't worth a great deal compared to the AFL in this circumstance. I think it would be the latter. :wink:
is litteracy an issue for you knob ? ....

try 180 million as per the article above
& up to another 20 million on top with the revenue sharing arrangment from non telstra customers

it seems the VFL ... officially ... has the 2nd biggest media rights deal in Australia :cool:
Hmmm I wonder which would have more credibility. Zdnet :lol: or the Australian Financial Review who reported it as around $100 million? :-k
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Well this debate is over #-o

Toyota refuse to disclose their deal which could be 20m per season or more.

Telstra refuse to disclose their deal which has reports guess the value as anything from 100m to 180m

Pretty funny in a way. After years of debate they both ruin it for us in the end..
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Regionals mean nothing aye, I bet we'll see a far few country folk sign up to watch the NRL online.

Btw, how much is it to watch the Southern game online per month? Wouldn't mind hooking up this legal streaming stuff and be done with it, I'll pay the fee and help boost the NRL's coffers that way as well as my membership.

Well done Grant, a job well done on negotiating where the NRL gets a split of the profits from non Telstra users whereas the vFL don't, you sure showed them up ;)
I think the majority of AFL/nRL fans would rather a better FTA TV schedule where they can see more than one game live over being able to watch some games on your phone which you have to pay for. In saying this anyway, I've been with VodaFAIL for almost 2 years and once my contract expires it's straight back to Telstra. I might buy a league pass to go with the Foxtel (Fox Footy) and my club membership.
I think most sports fans would rather tell FTA to go &&&& itself and watch non delayed non interrupted coverage, and as far as I can tell, you can get that two ways, live on Pay TV, or live on Stream because even when you go to the game, you are bombarded with ads on the big screen all bloody match.
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The_Wookie wrote:
eelofwest wrote:

Wookie the only problem with that graph is you and everybody else are assuming the NZ Sky deal is worth 100m. It is worth more imo.
Which needs to be balanced against Sky wanting to pay less according to this:
While the likely five-year contract would definitely be more than the $14 million a year SKY currently pays for the NRL broadcast rights and near the $100 million figure, it appears increasingly likely there will not be a significant rise in payment.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2EqiXMppH

Wookie you were really wide of the mark on that one... :lol: :lol:
And that was corrected as soon as it was pointed out. I stuffed that up, its true, but the table i put up doesnt say 5 million now does it.

Wookie the last 6 months for the NRL rights deals all have something in common so far wanna know what it is?????????????????????????

Double...................... =D> =D>

Now if we double the NZ Sky deal like all our other deals then we are looking at this figure.

16 TEAM NRL 1.327,000 =D> =D>
18 TEAM AFL 1.322,000 - 220m over 5 years = 1.102,000

There is a good chance of this happening weather you like to believe it or not.
I understand the rights have doubled - and raiderdave for instance might want to understand that doubling nrl radio rights will only bring in 2 million for instance. What you guys arent understanding is im not making the figures up - they are coming from the latest available media reports on the situation. If it turns out wrong, then its wrong.
WTF, of course sky NZ wi'll say they want to pay less, why in the hell would they say they will have to stump up more money?

If sky lowballs, RL has a few Kiwi options open to them.
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Not bad for a sport played in two states with 16 teams. In fact quite embarrassing for the AFL.
Ah, the only reason theyll get close is by including NZ :lol:

But u said NZ doesn't give a fuck about RL, so why should RL be expecting a big bag of gold from the sheepshaggers?


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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So for the NRL to squeeze out a win they need to include funds from another country and double that payment to 200m :-k


:lol: :lol: good luck with that

But I've got some bad news. You calculations assume the Toyota are still paying the same amount for their naming rights as 8 years ago, when all other sponsorships and deals have all but doubled. LIES :lol: :lol:

Sorry, but even if NZ pay 200m you still can't win :lol:
No deal the AFL has done has doubled so what are you talking about?

All the NRL deals have more then doubled in the last 6 months so safe for the NRL fans on this site to assume that our NZ deal will also. :wink:
They are not my calculations dunderbrain they are wookies or are from the graph wookie posted........... =D> =D>

Do you even read posts or just posts for the sake of being a troll?...... :lol: :lol:
Well given the AFL went from 700m odd to 1.3 I'd say thats near double :wink:
There's that Victorian Mathematical genius at work again
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Xman wrote:
TELSTRA has sealed a mobile broadcasting rights and sponsorship deal with the National Rugby League worth about $100 million

Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/business/tels ... z2Eryh94Dt


Though exact finanical terms were not announced, the Australian Financial Review (AFR) is reporting that the deal is likely to be worth AU$100 million (US$105 million).

http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/tels ... l_renewal/



Hmm, 150m my arse! [-X
Yeah you're right.

http://www.zdnet.com/au/telstra-denies- ... 000008658/
Telstra and the Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) today signed a five-year rights deal for the broadcasting of live matches on mobiles and tablets for close to AU$180 million.
You were saying?
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ParraEelsNRL wrote:
Xman wrote:
TELSTRA has sealed a mobile broadcasting rights and sponsorship deal with the National Rugby League worth about $100 million

Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/business/tels ... z2Eryh94Dt


Though exact finanical terms were not announced, the Australian Financial Review (AFR) is reporting that the deal is likely to be worth AU$100 million (US$105 million).

http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/tels ... l_renewal/



Hmm, 150m my arse! [-X
Yeah you're right.

http://www.zdnet.com/au/telstra-denies- ... 000008658/
Telstra and the Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) today signed a five-year rights deal for the broadcasting of live matches on mobiles and tablets for close to AU$180 million.
You were saying?
The AFR was saying $100 million.
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Sooo, they never said the exact number, only a few papers actually said it was up around $180 m mark, the rest were trying to rubbish something because of their conflict of interest, or trolls like yourself hoping and praying that it was as small as first reported all because they don't want a sport with a bigger dick taking over and outperforming their own :lol:
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ParraEelsNRL wrote:
Sooo, they never said the exact number, only a few papers actually said it was up around $180 m mark, the rest were trying to rubbish something because of their conflict of interest, or trolls like yourself hoping and praying that it was as small as first reported all because they don't want a sport with a bigger dick taking over and outperforming their own :lol:
Umm no one has said the exact number as Telstra and the nRL are keeping it secret. If the total had been $180m then the AFR would have quoted it as above $150m, not just over $100m. The figure is much more likely to be around the $100m mark than $180m.
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