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Optus and Vodafone subscribers will be able to download the NRL app and access matches for a fee, the proceeds of which will be split between Telstra and the NRL.

Foxtel subscribers can also get access to matches on tablets through the Foxtel Go app.

The arrangement is in contrast to last year’s $150 million deal for AFL digital rights, which limits access to Telstra subscribers.

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Until I see something concrete, I'm going with the doubling of the last deal which it (newspapers) states at a few places. That too me means $180 million.

The_Wookie wrote:

Ah still pulling the radio rights figure out your ass there too Raider.

The confusion with the Telstra deal stems from the original naming rights deal being for 90 million - but over 6 years. Or 75 million over 5 years. Doubling that would make it 150 million.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/business/ ... 14477.html

"TELSTRA could walk away from its $90 million, six-year National Rugby League sponsorship.... "

And so as Reported the updated figures are:



Without knowing the contra part of the Telstra deal, the NRL on face value have passed the AFL. on cash value for the tv rights. This is great work by the Commission.

A few notes: The NZ estimate is the upper reaches suggested in the media. The AFLs Naming rights deal with Toyota is unknown but was reported to be around $10 million in 2008 - it is currently undisclosed - its inclusion here is to balance the naming rights part of the Telstra NRL deal.

The_Wookie wrote:

As it stands now, with whats been reported and assuming that comes to pass and what not - given the long form of the NRL media rights hasnt even been signed yet and all. Assumes the Roy Masters article that predicts 2 million for radio is correct, and the latest AFR article predicting Telstra sign on for 100 million is correct. It also assumes no more than 100 million for New Zealand.



Id include handy references but you can go here for them just as easy: http://footybusiness.wordpress.com/the- ... dia-deals/

I assume you've done the maths, subtracting the 90 million advance payment designed to keep NRL clubs from going to the wall, you've factored in that 255 million "spending money" will lose about 225 million to the NRL future fund so it can actually implement whatever pipedreams emanate from the ARLC in its fight against the evils of AFL. I could go on. I assume that people have actually read demetrious statemement about the 220 million - spent over 6 years not 5 - and he says "invested" not investing. Past tense. Make of that what you will. Even if its not, it becomes 183 million over 5 years, not 220 million.

We've invested $220 million in the two new clubs (GWS and Gold Coast) over six years and on top of that $20 million a year each in AFLNSW and AFLQueensland. That combines to be in excess of $200 million in each state,"

" Demetriou said.

Read more: http://www.foxsports.com.au/AFL/AFL-pre ... z2En6IgNp7

Wookie: Just on this - and I havent troubled myself to read the whole thread

Im almost certain there is a bit of a deal at the moment where the rugby league players union are concerned they arent getting their mites out of the future fund. The Commission has set aside $225 million for the NRL future fund - done specifically with the amount set aside by the AFL in mind.

The Telstra deal as reported today includes a 5 year extension of the 15 million a year naming rights deal, meaning that Telstras mobile and 3 game IPTV deal would be worth $5 million a year or 25 mllion in total (as opposed to the 155 million paid to the AFL). The NZ deal has been reported as having an upper likelihood of 100 million (as opposed to the pennies if anything that the AFL get for them), radio rights will add 2 million according to Roy Masters (as opposed to the 23.2 million paid to the AFL). The known - but as yet not completely finalised version of the nrls media rights is worth 1.025 billion (+ a possible 30 million for an extra thursday game apparently paid for by Channel 9, kept secret from Foxtel, and not in the heads of agreement signed in August). With that in mind, and based on presently reported figures if they signed as they are:

NRL total: 1.152 Billion (includes Origin and 4 nations, Toyota Cup, NSW Cup, QLD Cup, NSW Schoolboys Cup, Premiership season, City v Country, Anzac test, Anzac Day match, + 2 hours of rugby league content on a 9 digital channel per day)
AFL Total: 1.272 Billion (includes Foxtel Cup, UNder 18s Championship, Premiership Season, NAB Cup, International Rules).

As the NRL unveiled another financial windfall via a naming and digital rights deal with Telstra worth more than $100 million,

The_Wookie wrote:

As it stands now, with whats been reported and assuming that comes to pass and what not - given the long form of the NRL media rights hasnt even been signed yet and all. Assumes the Roy Masters article that predicts 2 million for radio is correct, and the latest AFR article predicting Telstra sign on for 100 million is correct. It also assumes no more than 100 million for New Zealand.



Id include handy references but you can go here for them just as easy: http://footybusiness.wordpress.com/the- ... dia-deals/

I assume you've done the maths, subtracting the 90 million advance payment designed to keep NRL clubs from going to the wall, you've factored in that 255 million "spending money" will lose about 225 million to the NRL future fund so it can actually implement whatever pipedreams emanate from the ARLC in its fight against the evils of AFL. I could go on. I assume that people have actually read demetrious statemement about the 220 million - spent over 6 years not 5 - and he says "invested" not investing. Past tense. Make of that what you will. Even if its not, it becomes 183 million over 5 years, not 220 million.

We've invested $220 million in the two new clubs (GWS and Gold Coast) over six years and on top of that $20 million a year each in AFLNSW and AFLQueensland. That combines to be in excess of $200 million in each state,"

" Demetriou said.

Read more: http://www.foxsports.com.au/AFL/AFL-pre ... z2En6IgNp7

Wookie: Just on this - and I havent troubled myself to read the whole thread

Im almost certain there is a bit of a deal at the moment where the rugby league players union are concerned they arent getting their mites out of the future fund. The Commission has set aside $225 million for the NRL future fund - done specifically with the amount set aside by the AFL in mind.

The Telstra deal as reported today includes a 5 year extension of the 15 million a year naming rights deal, meaning that Telstras mobile and 3 game IPTV deal would be worth $5 million a year or 25 mllion in total (as opposed to the 155 million paid to the AFL). The NZ deal has been reported as having an upper likelihood of 100 million (as opposed to the pennies if anything that the AFL get for them), radio rights will add 2 million according to Roy Masters (as opposed to the 23.2 million paid to the AFL). The known - but as yet not completely finalised version of the nrls media rights is worth 1.025 billion (+ a possible 30 million for an extra thursday game apparently paid for by Channel 9, kept secret from Foxtel, and not in the heads of agreement signed in August). With that in mind, and based on presently reported figures if they signed as they are:

NRL total: 1.152 Billion (includes Origin and 4 nations, Toyota Cup, NSW Cup, QLD Cup, NSW Schoolboys Cup, Premiership season, City v Country, Anzac test, Anzac Day match, + 2 hours of rugby league content on a 9 digital channel per day)
AFL Total: 1.272 Billion (includes Foxtel Cup, UNder 18s Championship, Premiership Season, NAB Cup, International Rules).

As the NRL unveiled another financial windfall via a naming and digital rights deal with Telstra worth more than $100 million,

Optus and Vodafone subscribers will be able to download the NRL app and access matches for a fee, the proceeds of which will be split between Telstra and the NRL.

Foxtel subscribers can also get access to matches on tablets through the Foxtel Go app.

The arrangement is in contrast to last year’s $150 million deal for AFL digital rights, which limits access to Telstra subscribers.
“That is a big strategic decision, to make content available to any mobile user,” Telstra CEO David Thodey said.

“But we will continue to differentiate it on the Telstra network, obviously, and make it a richer experience, we hope. But people can still get access to that content, so the potential customer base is a lot higher."

Stewie wrote:

nRL only get $2 million from radio?

eelofwest wrote:

The_Wookie wrote:

As it stands now, with whats been reported and assuming that comes to pass and what not - given the long form of the NRL media rights hasnt even been signed yet and all. Assumes the Roy Masters article that predicts 2 million for radio is correct, and the latest AFR article predicting Telstra sign on for 100 million is correct. It also assumes no more than 100 million for New Zealand.



Id include handy references but you can go here for them just as easy: http://footybusiness.wordpress.com/the- ... dia-deals/

I assume you've done the maths, subtracting the 90 million advance payment designed to keep NRL clubs from going to the wall, you've factored in that 255 million "spending money" will lose about 225 million to the NRL future fund so it can actually implement whatever pipedreams emanate from the ARLC in its fight against the evils of AFL. I could go on. I assume that people have actually read demetrious statemement about the 220 million - spent over 6 years not 5 - and he says "invested" not investing. Past tense. Make of that what you will. Even if its not, it becomes 183 million over 5 years, not 220 million.

We've invested $220 million in the two new clubs (GWS and Gold Coast) over six years and on top of that $20 million a year each in AFLNSW and AFLQueensland. That combines to be in excess of $200 million in each state,"

" Demetriou said.

Read more: http://www.foxsports.com.au/AFL/AFL-pre ... z2En6IgNp7

Wookie the only problem with that graph is you and everybody else are assuming the NZ Sky deal is worth 100m. It is worth more imo.

Wookie: Just on this - and I havent troubled myself to read the whole thread

Im almost certain there is a bit of a deal at the moment where the rugby league players union are concerned they arent getting their mites out of the future fund. The Commission has set aside $225 million for the NRL future fund - done specifically with the amount set aside by the AFL in mind.

The Telstra deal as reported today includes a 5 year extension of the 15 million a year naming rights deal, meaning that Telstras mobile and 3 game IPTV deal would be worth $5 million a year or 25 mllion in total (as opposed to the 155 million paid to the AFL). The NZ deal has been reported as having an upper likelihood of 100 million (as opposed to the pennies if anything that the AFL get for them), radio rights will add 2 million according to Roy Masters (as opposed to the 23.2 million paid to the AFL). The known - but as yet not completely finalised version of the nrls media rights is worth 1.025 billion (+ a possible 30 million for an extra thursday game apparently paid for by Channel 9, kept secret from Foxtel, and not in the heads of agreement signed in August). With that in mind, and based on presently reported figures if they signed as they are:

NRL total: 1.152 Billion (includes Origin and 4 nations, Toyota Cup, NSW Cup, QLD Cup, NSW Schoolboys Cup, Premiership season, City v Country, Anzac test, Anzac Day match, + 2 hours of rugby league content on a 9 digital channel per day)
AFL Total: 1.272 Billion (includes Foxtel Cup, UNder 18s Championship, Premiership Season, NAB Cup, International Rules).

Wookie you were really wide of the mark on that one...

http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news ... 2b9ak.html

As the NRL unveiled another financial windfall via a naming and digital rights deal with Telstra worth more than $100 million,

Wookie the last 6 months for the NRL rights deals all have something in common so far wanna know what it is?????????????????????????


Double...................... =D> =D>

Now if we double the NZ Sky deal like all our other deals then we are looking at this figure.

16 TEAM NRL 1.327,000 =D> =D>
18 TEAM AFL 1.322,000 - 220m over 5 years = 1.102,000

There is a good chance of this happening weather you like to believe it or not. :D

Optus and Vodafone subscribers will be able to download the NRL app and access matches for a fee, the proceeds of which will be split between Telstra and the NRL.

Foxtel subscribers can also get access to matches on tablets through the Foxtel Go app.

The arrangement is in contrast to last year’s $150 million deal for AFL digital rights, which limits access to Telstra subscribers.
“That is a big strategic decision, to make content available to any mobile user,” Telstra CEO David Thodey said.

“But we will continue to differentiate it on the Telstra network, obviously, and make it a richer experience, we hope. But people can still get access to that content, so the potential customer base is a lot higher."

http://www.afr.com/p/business/companies ... vyhrhNKlvM

Our deal is worth even more now the fact all subscribers can DL for free.....well done Mr Grant. =D> =D>

The_Wookie wrote:

Without knowing the contra part of the Telstra deal, the NRL on face value have passed the AFL. on cash value for the tv rights. This is great work by the Commission.

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Raiderdave wrote:

Stewie wrote:

nRL only get $2 million from radio?

15 million you blithering c.ockhead

Xman wrote:

eelofwest wrote:

The_Wookie wrote:

As it stands now, with whats been reported and assuming that comes to pass and what not - given the long form of the NRL media rights hasnt even been signed yet and all. Assumes the Roy Masters article that predicts 2 million for radio is correct, and the latest AFR article predicting Telstra sign on for 100 million is correct. It also assumes no more than 100 million for New Zealand.



Id include handy references but you can go here for them just as easy: http://footybusiness.wordpress.com/the- ... dia-deals/

I assume you've done the maths, subtracting the 90 million advance payment designed to keep NRL clubs from going to the wall, you've factored in that 255 million "spending money" will lose about 225 million to the NRL future fund so it can actually implement whatever pipedreams emanate from the ARLC in its fight against the evils of AFL. I could go on. I assume that people have actually read demetrious statemement about the 220 million - spent over 6 years not 5 - and he says "invested" not investing. Past tense. Make of that what you will. Even if its not, it becomes 183 million over 5 years, not 220 million.
" Demetriou said.

Read more: http://www.foxsports.com.au/AFL/AFL-pre ... z2En6IgNp7

Wookie the only problem with that graph is you and everybody else are assuming the NZ Sky deal is worth 100m. It is worth more imo.

Wookie: Just on this - and I havent troubled myself to read the whole thread

Im almost certain there is a bit of a deal at the moment where the rugby league players union are concerned they arent getting their mites out of the future fund. The Commission has set aside $225 million for the NRL future fund - done specifically with the amount set aside by the AFL in mind.

The Telstra deal as reported today includes a 5 year extension of the 15 million a year naming rights deal, meaning that Telstras mobile and 3 game IPTV deal would be worth $5 million a year or 25 mllion in total (as opposed to the 155 million paid to the AFL). The NZ deal has been reported as having an upper likelihood of 100 million (as opposed to the pennies if anything that the AFL get for them), radio rights will add 2 million according to Roy Masters (as opposed to the 23.2 million paid to the AFL). The known - but as yet not completely finalised version of the nrls media rights is worth 1.025 billion (+ a possible 30 million for an extra thursday game apparently paid for by Channel 9, kept secret from Foxtel, and not in the heads of agreement signed in August). With that in mind, and based on presently reported figures if they signed as they are:

NRL total: 1.152 Billion (includes Origin and 4 nations, Toyota Cup, NSW Cup, QLD Cup, NSW Schoolboys Cup, Premiership season, City v Country, Anzac test, Anzac Day match, + 2 hours of rugby league content on a 9 digital channel per day)
AFL Total: 1.272 Billion (includes Foxtel Cup, UNder 18s Championship, Premiership Season, NAB Cup, International Rules).

Wookie you were really wide of the mark on that one...

http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news ... 2b9ak.html

As the NRL unveiled another financial windfall via a naming and digital rights deal with Telstra worth more than $100 million,

Wookie the last 6 months for the NRL rights deals all have something in common so far wanna know what it is?????????????????????????


Double...................... =D> =D>

Now if we double the NZ Sky deal like all our other deals then we are looking at this figure.

16 TEAM NRL 1.327,000 =D> =D>
18 TEAM AFL 1.322,000 - 220m over 5 years = 1.102,000

There is a good chance of this happening weather you like to believe it or not. :D

Optus and Vodafone subscribers will be able to download the NRL app and access matches for a fee, the proceeds of which will be split between Telstra and the NRL.

Foxtel subscribers can also get access to matches on tablets through the Foxtel Go app.

The arrangement is in contrast to last year’s $150 million deal for AFL digital rights, which limits access to Telstra subscribers.
“That is a big strategic decision, to make content available to any mobile user,” Telstra CEO David Thodey said.

“But we will continue to differentiate it on the Telstra network, obviously, and make it a richer experience, we hope. But people can still get access to that content, so the potential customer base is a lot higher."

http://www.afr.com/p/business/companies ... vyhrhNKlvM

Our deal is worth even more now the fact all subscribers can DL for free.....well done Mr Grant. =D> =D>

So for the NRL to squeeze out a win they need to include funds from another country and double that payment to 200m


good luck with that

But I've got some bad news. You calculations assume the Toyota are still paying the same amount for their naming rights as 8 years ago, when all other sponsorships and deals have all but doubled.

Sorry, but even if NZ pay 200m you still can't win