The AFL Looking after there grassroots!

[NlolRL]

4% of Tasmanian's are aboriginal!

which would mean the AFL are favouring indigenous AFL fans by having teams in other Australian states with higher proportions

Except of course the territory with the highest proportion.

Lordy you are copping an absolute pounding in here nlol, spose nuttins changed

Darwin is another prime example of a city without the capacity to support an AFL club. Lift your game KE, you're all over the shop

[King-Eliagh]

And so we come full circle dearnlol my gosling.

Fremantle already had fans from their state comp. Hobart don’t have a club with any fans at present? Is that what you’re suggesting?

And AFL crap is right. Quite hypocritical arguments you present, especially when there was no gws team prior to 2012

Please nlol, it’s 2019 for Christ’s sake! Do....pickupyer bloody game, it’s godawful in here and as captain of the AFL fans you need to present something with substance or I suggest leave town. At the moment the arguments you present just make the site look dumb.

Warm regards,
KING

[King-Eliagh]

which would mean the AFL are favouring indigenous AFL fans by having teams in other Australian states with higher proportions

Except of course the territory with the highest proportion.

Lordy you are copping an absolute pounding in here nlol, spose nuttins changed

Darwin is another prime example of a city without the capacity to support an AFL club. Lift your game KE, you're all over the shop

It’s not even been attempted you silly clown. With the amount of moolah that’s been sunk into the Gold Coast Thuns a team in Darwin would be thriving. But, alas, the AFL exec team have delusions of grandeur. They truly think and thought that within 10-20 years the GC and west Sydney communities would be swarming to the AFL. Well? We’re eight years in and there’s no signs of progress on that front

[NlolRL]

Fremantle already had fans from their state comp. Hobart don’t have a club with any fans at present? Is that what you’re suggesting?

Fremantle were a powerhouse of the WAFL so they brought their own supporter base with them when they began. Hobart, a city of 200k, are not in that position. COme on KE, it aint that hard !

And AFL crap is right. Quite hypocritical arguments you present, especially when there was no gws team prior to 2012

The Giants and Suns are expansion tools. They should not be considered in the same light. There is no use the AFL pouring money into a flailing Tasmanian club because the state already follows AFL. By pouring money into the giants and suns the AFL are funding expansion.

Comprehend you simpletons?

[NlolRL]

Except of course the territory with the highest proportion.

Lordy you are copping an absolute pounding in here nlol, spose nuttins changed

Darwin is another prime example of a city without the capacity to support an AFL club. Lift your game KE, you're all over the shop

It’s not even been attempted you silly clown. With the amount of moolah that’s been sunk into the Gold Coast Thuns a team in Darwin would be thriving. But, alas, the AFL exec team have delusions of grandeur. They truly think and thought that within 10-20 years the GC and west Sydney communities would be swarming to the AFL. Well? We’re eight years in and there’s no signs of progress on that front

Bugger me KE!

FFS, Richmond have almost as many members as Darwin's population. Introducing a team in Darwin would be a monumental disaster.

[AFLcrap1]

Fremantle already had fans from their state comp. Hobart don’t have a club with any fans at present? Is that what you’re suggesting?

Fremantle were a powerhouse of the WAFL so they brought their own supporter base with them when they began. Hobart, a city of 200k, are not in that position. COme on KE, it aint that hard !

And AFL crap is right. Quite hypocritical arguments you present, especially when there was no gws team prior to 2012

The Giants and Suns are expansion tools. They should not be considered in the same light. There is no use the AFL pouring money into a flailing Tasmanian club because the state already follows AFL. By pouring money into the giants and suns the AFL are funding expansion.

Comprehend you simpletons?

Oh jesus .
& the two expansion teams were put into cities or areas that already had a team .in non heartland
So they were well catered for .
& those who didn't follow the Swans or lions ALREADY HAD AN AFL TEAM to follow ( your logic) ,
So
These teams were totally unnessecary ...only dreams of granduer by the great leaders .
Yet tas misses out through some bullshit excuses .

Have you ever had an independent thought when it come to anything AFL .?
I doubt it .

[AFLcrap1]

Interesting read .

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-26/ ... d/10552894

It's funny how those who keep saying not viable etc..are from Vic .
Kennett..lol doesn't his team FIFO ..take the money from Tas & run ..
Of course he doesn't want his cash cow to get a home team .

I love the last few sentences here

Team must pay the bills

The second roadblock to a Tasmanian team has always been the cost.

Hawthorn president Jeff Kennett has said a standalone team was not financially viable for the state.

Jeff Kennett at Hawks game in Launceston
PHOTO: Jeff Kennett has described a Tasmanian AFL club as a "lovely dream". (AAP/Tracey Nearmy)
"It's a lovely dream, but I don't think it will be competitive or have sufficient support financially for a long-enough period for it to be sustainable, unless like the Gold Coast or GWS, the AFL decide to put in $25 million a year," Mr Kennett was reported saying by AFL.com.au.

But independent economist Saul Eslake disagreed, and said to compare the Tasmanian situation to Victorian heavyweight teams was a mistake.

"I don't think Tasmania should necessarily take as a benchmark for what it costs to put a team on the ground … the biggest-spending teams such as Collingwood, West Coast or Hawthorn. Other clubs are able to put teams in the competition and do reasonably well on lower amounts than those three clubs."

Mr Eslake was part of a Tasmanian government AFL steering committee in 2008, which investigated the potential for a Tasmanian team.

"[The work] showed that a Tasmanian team would be financially viable on its own with not much more support from the State Government than it was then getting, without the need for corrupting the drafts or quite as large support from the AFL as for example Greater Western Sydney are getting.

"I believe on balance, Tasmania having its own team in the AFL is something that the state can afford."
Topics: australian-football-league, tas, hobart-7000

First posted 26 Nov 2018, 5:44am



So it's alright to throw 20+ mill a year at new teams in areas that already have teams is fine
In the hope of attracting new support..lol how's that goin?

Yet rewarding an AFL heartland with their own team is no bad ... can't afford that .

[AFLcrap1]

I love how he highlights ..CORRUPTING THE DRAFT .
Oh & loler
When this was before the senate committee in 08 & the Tas senators wanted to know why WS would get a team before TAS it became apparent then how corrupt the AFL was & hothey lied .

How many juniors in WS
AFL...20 k
Lol
Soon was exposed that it was about 3 k .

It's been a Tas shutout from day one .

& lol at Kenner talking about competitive .

How the THUNS going in that area.

[AFLcrap1]

When you do some research you see just how much Tas is the AFLOL.'s . Bitch ....used & used & used & abused .

With no intention of ever giving them a home team .


Oh & loler ths blows your freemantle already had a big supporter base out of the water .



The AFL has tried to placate Tasmanian football authorities by planning the re-introduction of a state team in the VFL, but the locals aren’t happy.

The state was represented in the Victorian league by the Tassie Devils between 2001 and 2008 and saw VFL-high crowds through their first few seasons.

The Devils made finals in 2003, ‘04 and ’05, but an alignment with North Melbourne in 2006 saw crowd numbers tumble and results go backwards, with consecutive wooden spoons leading to the side folding in 2008.



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The AFL has tried to placate Tasmanian football authorities by planning the re-introduction of a state team in the VFL, but the locals aren’t happy.

The state was represented in the Victorian league by the Tassie Devils between 2001 and 2008 and saw VFL-high crowds through their first few seasons.

The Devils made finals in 2003, ‘04 and ’05, but an alignment with North Melbourne in 2006 saw crowd numbers tumble and results go backwards, with consecutive wooden spoons leading to the side folding in 2008.


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Like the failed connection to the Kangaroos, Tasmanians see the new rebirth of the Devils as a plan to appease the locals and silence calls for a team from the Apple Isle to enter the AFL.

“If it’s a foundational pathway to us one day having our own AFL team, that’s terrific, but if it’s the summit, if it’s a case of 'here you are, this is as far as you can go', well, that’s not what we want,” Hobart Mercury sports editor Brett Stubbs told SEN Breakfast on Friday.

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“We’ve been there and done that before. We want our own pathway to one day being part of the biggest league in Australia.”

Stubbs acknowledged crowd numbers fell dramatically at the end of the Devils’ last incarnation, but said that was due to being downgraded from a stand-alone side to a dumping ground for North Melbourne’s second tier.

“I think a lot of it was in some ways a protest vote,” he said.

“We feel like we haven’t been given the same opportunities as other areas. The novelty has worn off to see clubs that you aren’t invested in - Gold Coast is not high on peoples’ wish list to go and see right now.

“You only have to look at the Big Bash crowds - Tasmanians have got right behind their own team, the Hobart Hurricanes. They have regular very strong crowds to sell-outs both in Hobart and Launceston.

“Tasmanians have gotten right behind the Hobart Hurricanes and I have no doubt it would be the same for an AFL team; even more so.”

AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan recently said the state needed to get its lower levels of the game sorted if it was to be a chance of getting a side in the big league, but some of Tasmania’s biggest regional competitions have folded in the past few years as Australian Rules football has been losing its identity.

[AFLcrap1]

So these posts show that the AFL & Vic centric fans & brainwashed yes men couldn't care less about clubs folding ..AFL fans losing interest etc.
What a disgusting organisation run by liars who will manipulate the comp to ensure certain teams ...do well while ignoring the pleas from heartland Tas to give them their own team .

[NlolRL]

Fremantle already had fans from their state comp. Hobart don’t have a club with any fans at present? Is that what you’re suggesting?

Fremantle were a powerhouse of the WAFL so they brought their own supporter base with them when they began. Hobart, a city of 200k, are not in that position. COme on KE, it aint that hard !

And AFL crap is right. Quite hypocritical arguments you present, especially when there was no gws team prior to 2012

The Giants and Suns are expansion tools. They should not be considered in the same light. There is no use the AFL pouring money into a flailing Tasmanian club because the state already follows AFL. By pouring money into the giants and suns the AFL are funding expansion.

Comprehend you simpletons?

Oh jesus .
& the two expansion teams were put into cities or areas that already had a team .in non heartland
So they were well catered for .
& those who didn't follow the Swans or lions ALREADY HAD AN AFL TEAM to follow ( your logic) ,
So
These teams were totally unnessecary ...only dreams of granduer by the great leaders .
Yet tas misses out through some bullshit excuses .

Have you ever had an independent thought when it come to anything AFL .?
I doubt it .

GC didnt have a club, nor did west Sydney. However, my argument isnt about whether investing in these clubs was a good idea, I'm explaining the AFLs reasons for introducing these clubs over a tasmanian club. At least i have a reason. Your explanation is Gil said so. Lol

[NlolRL]

Interesting read .

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-26/ ... d/10552894

It's funny how those who keep saying not viable etc..are from Vic .
Kennett..lol doesn't his team FIFO ..take the money from Tas & run ..
Of course he doesn't want his cash cow to get a home team .

I love the last few sentences here

Team must pay the bills

The second roadblock to a Tasmanian team has always been the cost.

Hawthorn president Jeff Kennett has said a standalone team was not financially viable for the state.

Jeff Kennett at Hawks game in Launceston
PHOTO: Jeff Kennett has described a Tasmanian AFL club as a "lovely dream". (AAP/Tracey Nearmy)
"It's a lovely dream, but I don't think it will be competitive or have sufficient support financially for a long-enough period for it to be sustainable, unless like the Gold Coast or GWS, the AFL decide to put in $25 million a year," Mr Kennett was reported saying by AFL.com.au.

But independent economist Saul Eslake disagreed, and said to compare the Tasmanian situation to Victorian heavyweight teams was a mistake.

"I don't think Tasmania should necessarily take as a benchmark for what it costs to put a team on the ground … the biggest-spending teams such as Collingwood, West Coast or Hawthorn. Other clubs are able to put teams in the competition and do reasonably well on lower amounts than those three clubs."

Mr Eslake was part of a Tasmanian government AFL steering committee in 2008, which investigated the potential for a Tasmanian team.

"[The work] showed that a Tasmanian team would be financially viable on its own with not much more support from the State Government than it was then getting, without the need for corrupting the drafts or quite as large support from the AFL as for example Greater Western Sydney are getting.

"I believe on balance, Tasmania having its own team in the AFL is something that the state can afford."
Topics: australian-football-league, tas, hobart-7000

First posted 26 Nov 2018, 5:44am



So it's alright to throw 20+ mill a year at new teams in areas that already have teams is fine
In the hope of attracting new support..lol how's that goin?

Yet rewarding an AFL heartland with their own team is no bad ... can't afford that .

How many times must it be said? The AFL are throwing money into the GC and WS for expansion. They are not prepared to do the same thing for a region that is already AFL heartland.

Whether that use of their money is a valid expenditure is a different argument.

It isnt hard to understand.

[NlolRL]

So these posts show that the AFL & Vic centric fans & brainwashed yes men couldn't care less about clubs folding ..AFL fans losing interest etc.
What a disgusting organisation run by liars who will manipulate the comp to ensure certain teams ...do well while ignoring the pleas from heartland Tas to give them their own team .

and Tasmania will contine to be ignored while they cant afford to support their own AFL club. Yes their local club has suffered a decline in popularity since the AFL began playing games in Tasmania and they had a VFL side. However this also occured when Adelaide qnd aperth introduced AFL clubs. Its a displacement of interest, not a decline overall.

[AFLcrap1]

Lol spoken like a true cultist
The reasons you put up for NOT giving them a team have all been shot down .
Population....shown it was bigger than Geelong..who have ateam
Viability....Tas GOVT say it's not a problem ....of course Gill Vlad etc said different

Wouldn't have the support as they already have a team lolx1000 ...their devils team showed that is crap .
They WILL get behind a local team .

All,the while AFL dies slowly on the vine over there

Maybe some independent thinking is required .
Don't let Gill do all your thinking for you

[NlolRL]

Lol spoken like a true cultist
The reasons you put up for NOT giving them a team have all been shot down .
Population....shown it was bigger than Geelong..who have ateam

Shotdown
Geelong isnt on an Island in it's own state. It's 1hrs drive from Melbourne. Geelong play home games in Melbourne. Many Geelong fans live in Melbourne. You havent shot down this point you clown!

Viability....Tas GOVT say it's not a problem ....of course Gill Vlad etc said different

There are opposing views. SOme are for and some are against. The Tasmanian goverment would expect the AFL to cover the cost of a struggling AFL club in Tasmania.

Wouldn't have the support as they already have a team lolx1000 ...their devils team showed that is crap .
They WILL get behind a local team .

That's nothing more than wishful thinking based on no evidence at all

All,the while AFL dies slowly on the vine over there

Again, no different to the WAFL and SAFL when the AFL became national

Maybe some independent thinking is required .
Don't let Gill do all your thinking for you

Just because I agree with their strategies in Tasmania doesnt mean I dont think about it independently. Nothing you've said convinces me otherwise