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The article, concerning revenue was pointed out in a newspaper report in the lead up to the N RL TV contract . So I think its pretty safe to assume they were talking about the latest figure and as such would include the AFL's TV contract.

As far as recievership goes, the AFL may not be there just yet but are headed that way.
So even when the NRL get their new TV money they will still be 150-200M behind the AFL each year.

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please explain how ?
get those pudgey little fingers of yours on that VFL calculator & ...... try again

the present NRL revenue is about 170m .. that includes the present annual 83m a year for TV
thats going up to at least 250m a year ... possibly a tad more

our revenue doubles to 340 to 350 Million a year
the VFL's 420 to 440 Million

how is that 200 million behind marcus ?

its less then 100 million
then we consider the VFL having to fund 2 black holes ( that the NRL doesn't have ) to the tune of 40 Million a year ... minimum
& that gap which WAS quite large .... has been given a right shallacking .... overnight :cool:
Your increase is a hundred million a year Dave you fukn moron Did they get it for free before you dickheads. The numbers are already out there 270 to 430. This proves once and for all we are dealing with a moron. Get off mums computer and get a job lol
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pookus wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
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So even when the NRL get their new TV money they will still be 150-200M behind the AFL each year.

:
please explain how ?
get those pudgey little fingers of yours on that VFL calculator & ...... try again

the present NRL revenue is about 170m .. that includes the present annual 83m a year for TV
thats going up to at least 250m a year ... possibly a tad more

our revenue doubles to 340 to 350 Million a year
the VFL's 420 to 440 Million

how is that 200 million behind marcus ?

its less then 100 million
then we consider the VFL having to fund 2 black holes ( that the NRL doesn't have ) to the tune of 40 Million a year ... minimum
& that gap which WAS quite large .... has been given a right shallacking .... overnight :cool:
Your increase is a hundred million a year Dave you fukn moron Did they get it for free before you dickheads. The numbers are already out there 270 to 430. This proves once and for all we are dealing with a moron. Get off mums computer and get a job lol
:lol: :lol: :lol:
yr struggling today aren't ya :wink:
our old deal was 500 million .... over 6 years
at 83 million a year

we already have 205m a year with our TV deal alone
that will increase by at least another 50m when all components of our deal are finalised ( Kiwi rights to be announced soon ... in a week or so )

poohfiddler ... thats an increase of .. :-k .. how much then ?

our revenue goes to 340 to 350 Million .... in a heartbeat
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RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

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Raiderdave wrote:
pookus wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
please explain how ?
get those pudgey little fingers of yours on that VFL calculator & ...... try again

the present NRL revenue is about 170m .. that includes the present annual 83m a year for TV
thats going up to at least 250m a year ... possibly a tad more

our revenue doubles to 340 to 350 Million a year
the VFL's 420 to 440 Million

how is that 200 million behind marcus ?

its less then 100 million
then we consider the VFL having to fund 2 black holes ( that the NRL doesn't have ) to the tune of 40 Million a year ... minimum
& that gap which WAS quite large .... has been given a right shallacking .... overnight :cool:
Your increase is a hundred million a year Dave you fukn moron Did they get it for free before you dickheads. The numbers are already out there 270 to 430. This proves once and for all we are dealing with a moron. Get off mums computer and get a job lol
:lol: :lol: :lol:
yr struggling today aren't ya :wink:
our old deal was 500 million .... over 6 years
at 83 million a year

we already have 205m a year with our TV deal alone
that will increase by at least another 50m when all components of our deal are finalised ( Kiwi rights to be announced soon ... in a week or so )

poohfiddler ... thats an increase of .. :-k .. how much then ?

our revenue goes to 340 to 350 Million .... in a heartbeat
end of :cool:
Dave some of that 205 is contra. Dont forget that to the 83 million you have to add 16 million for the NZ deal + whatever the NRL get for the current internet rights. So whats that only a one hundred million increase so far? Maybe they will increase their revenue to 320 if they get a very good deal for NZ/internet. Plus the NRL deal is one year behind the AFL one.
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piesman2011 wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
pookus wrote:
Your increase is a hundred million a year Dave you fukn moron Did they get it for free before you dickheads. The numbers are already out there 270 to 430. This proves once and for all we are dealing with a moron. Get off mums computer and get a job lol
:lol: :lol: :lol:
yr struggling today aren't ya :wink:
our old deal was 500 million .... over 6 years
at 83 million a year

we already have 205m a year with our TV deal alone
that will increase by at least another 50m when all components of our deal are finalised ( Kiwi rights to be announced soon ... in a week or so )

poohfiddler ... thats an increase of .. :-k .. how much then ?

our revenue goes to 340 to 350 Million .... in a heartbeat
end of :cool:
Dave some of that 205 is contra. Plus the NRL deal is one year behind the AFL one.

so is the VFL's 250 mill a year ..............30m a year in fact
in 2013 our deals will be less then 100 m apart in actual $$ amounts

when you factor in what the 2 codes have to fund out of this revenue
its even less then again :cool:
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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Raiderdave wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
yr struggling today aren't ya :wink:
our old deal was 500 million .... over 6 years
at 83 million a year

we already have 205m a year with our TV deal alone
that will increase by at least another 50m when all components of our deal are finalised ( Kiwi rights to be announced soon ... in a week or so )

poohfiddler ... thats an increase of .. :-k .. how much then ?

our revenue goes to 340 to 350 Million .... in a heartbeat
end of :cool:
Dave some of that 205 is contra. Plus the NRL deal is one year behind the AFL one.

so is the VFL's ..............
in 2013 our deals will be less then 100 m apart in actual terms

when you factor in what the 2 codes have to fund out of this revenue
its even less then this :cool:
Dont forget to take way the 16 million for NZ you currently get and the internet rights you get per year. This is surley an extra 20 million a year. SO it might be closer to 320 million for the NRL. (sorry edited my last post late).
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piesman2011 wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
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Dave some of that 205 is contra. Plus the NRL deal is one year behind the AFL one.

so is the VFL's ..............
in 2013 our deals will be less then 100 m apart in actual terms

when you factor in what the 2 codes have to fund out of this revenue
its even less then this :cool:
Dont forget to take way the 16 million for NZ you currently get and the internet rights you get per year. This is surley an extra 20 million a year. SO it might be closer to 320 million for the NRL. (sorry edited my last post late).
why are we taking that out ?
its revenue for the NRL isn't it ...

the online rights are included in the VFL's 250 mill a year rights deal ... & everything else too .. which makes up their 430 Mill
we'll do the same with any source of revenue we get thank you

430 mill to 340mill

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RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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Raiderdave wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:

so is the VFL's ..............
in 2013 our deals will be less then 100 m apart in actual terms

when you factor in what the 2 codes have to fund out of this revenue
its even less then this :cool:
Dont forget to take way the 16 million for NZ you currently get and the internet rights you get per year. This is surley an extra 20 million a year. SO it might be closer to 320 million for the NRL. (sorry edited my last post late).
why are we taking that out ?
its revenue for the NRL isn't it ...

the online rights are included in the VFL's 250 mill a year rights deal ... & everything else too .. which makes up their 430 Mill
we'll do the same with any source of revenue we get thank you

430 mill to 340mill

end of :cool:
Let me explain it to you. Lets say the NRL are on 170 million (including the 83 for current TV rights) what you forgot was the current NZ rights 16 million + current internet rights (I have no idea what that is). So without any TV/internet rights the revenue would be about 70 million. So 70million + 250 million from the new deal would only add up to 320 million. Sorry if I didn't explain this well. 320 million is still a good number and you might get more from other sources.
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Raiderdave wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:

so is the VFL's ..............
in 2013 our deals will be less then 100 m apart in actual terms

when you factor in what the 2 codes have to fund out of this revenue
its even less then this :cool:
Dont forget to take way the 16 million for NZ you currently get and the internet rights you get per year. This is surley an extra 20 million a year. SO it might be closer to 320 million for the NRL. (sorry edited my last post late).
why are we taking that out ?
its revenue for the NRL isn't it ...

the online rights are included in the VFL's 250 mill a year rights deal ... & everything else too .. which makes up their 430 Mill
we'll do the same with any source of revenue we get thank you

430 mill to 340mill

end of :cool:
Some simple maths you idiot. 170 million. Add 120 million extra for TV. 290 million . Sky will not pay one cent more now the grand final starts at 10 30 over there fact. No increase. Online rights are a farce they have already sold fox digital rights to 5 games. Won't get half of what the AFL got. That makes 305. Now lets take out bullshit contra. The fact you were charged more for your advertising while having so much less TV time is a farce. 20 million nrl 15 million AFL. Makes it about 415 to 290. That's a long way behind Dave and here come the players for the lions share of the booty. Interesting times ahead. This year would have been 170 to 430 but they give you a years cash up front to save the embarrassment.
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pookus wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
Dont forget to take way the 16 million for NZ you currently get and the internet rights you get per year. This is surley an extra 20 million a year. SO it might be closer to 320 million for the NRL. (sorry edited my last post late).
why are we taking that out ?
its revenue for the NRL isn't it ...

the online rights are included in the VFL's 250 mill a year rights deal ... & everything else too .. which makes up their 430 Mill
we'll do the same with any source of revenue we get thank you

430 mill to 340mill

end of :cool:
Some simple maths you idiot. 170 million. Add 120 million extra for TV. 290 million . Sky will not pay one cent more now the grand final starts at 10 30 over there fact. No increase. Online rights are a farce they have already sold fox digital rights to 5 games. Won't get half of what the AFL got. That makes 305. Now lets take out bullshit contra. The fact you were charged more for your advertising while having so much less TV time is a farce. 20 million nrl 15 million AFL. Makes it about 415 to 290. That's a long way behind Dave and here come the players for the lions share of the booty. Interesting times ahead. This year would have been 170 to 430 but they give you a years cash up front to save the embarrassment.

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poor ol poohpoker .... still struggling

its 30m a year contra for the VFL .... not 15 you d head
meaning its 400 to 290
but lets just include contra as it helps the VFL figure more then it does us ...

our broadcasting rights deal

205m a year from Aust TV networks as it stands at the moment
plus

20m a year from the kiwis ... lock it in eddie :wink: ... as many people watched the SOO in NZ as our GF that started at 10pm ... the NRL GF kickoff time next year in NZ ... will be 9pm .... it will still rate its tits off
we're up to 225m a year
& we gave online rights to only 1/3 of our market through foxtel ( 33% who have access to it)... meaning we still have 66% without any online rights that we can still sell to a carrier ...... thats another 20m a year
so we're up to 245m a year
& naming rights ..... currently 12m a year from Telstra ... they'll go for 15 a year at least
radio 3 mill a year as well
lets face it ... we'll hit 260 mill a year when its all done
260m a year X 5 ... a 1.3 billion dollar rights deal


add that to the 70 million plus of non TV revenue that the NRL makes
70 plus 260

330 Million in revenue for the NRL in 2013....& no useless money hoovering millstone clubs around our necks
shhhhhawwweeettttttttt :cool:
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RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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piesman2011 wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
Dont forget to take way the 16 million for NZ you currently get and the internet rights you get per year. This is surley an extra 20 million a year. SO it might be closer to 320 million for the NRL. (sorry edited my last post late).
why are we taking that out ?
its revenue for the NRL isn't it ...

the online rights are included in the VFL's 250 mill a year rights deal ... & everything else too .. which makes up their 430 Mill
we'll do the same with any source of revenue we get thank you

430 mill to 340mill

end of :cool:
Let me explain it to you. Lets say the NRL are on 170 million (including the 83 for current TV rights) what you forgot was the current NZ rights 16 million + current internet rights (I have no idea what that is). So without any TV/internet rights the revenue would be about 70 million. So 70million + 250 million from the new deal would only add up to 320 million. Sorry if I didn't explain this well. 320 million is still a good number and you might get more from other sources.
yep see what yr saying now
so we'll be at 320 to 330 ( probably closer to 330m based on my figures above )

but thats based on the assumption that the NRL will not increase its non TV revenue as well
they have set themselves a goal of 100m a year in non TV revenue by the end of 2017

meaning they could get to 360M a year in total revenue by then
& again
no useless expansion clubs eating up their money ... like the VFL has :cool:
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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Raiderdave wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Dont forget to take way the 16 million for NZ you currently get and the internet rights you get per year. This is surley an extra 20 million a year. SO it might be closer to 320 million for the NRL. (sorry edited my last post late).
why are we taking that out ?
its revenue for the NRL isn't it ...

the online rights are included in the VFL's 250 mill a year rights deal ... & everything else too .. which makes up their 430 Mill
we'll do the same with any source of revenue we get thank you

430 mill to 340mill

end of :cool:
Let me explain it to you. Lets say the NRL are on 170 million (including the 83 for current TV rights) what you forgot was the current NZ rights 16 million + current internet rights (I have no idea what that is). So without any TV/internet rights the revenue would be about 70 million. So 70million + 250 million from the new deal would only add up to 320 million. Sorry if I didn't explain this well. 320 million is still a good number and you might get more from other sources.
yep see what yr saying now
so we'll be at 320 to 330 ( probably closer to 330m based on my figures above )

but thats based on the assumption that the NRL will not increase its non TV revenue as well
they have set themselves a goal of 100m a year in non TV revenue by the end of 2017

meaning they could get to 360M a year in total revenue by then
& again
no useless expansion clubs eating up their money ... like the VFL has :cool:[/quote]
Except the nRLs expected 1.2b tv rights (when including NZ and internet rights) over 5 yrs includes 100m contra. Therefore its more like 1.1b. That's 220m per year. Add that to 70m and youre on 290m per year, or close to 150m behind the AFL per year :wink:
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Cats will be raking it in next year with the bigger crowds at home.

Yeah, talk up other Vfl clubs but your own aye stewie, not bad losing $4 million in a season eh :wink:
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Love all the experts saying they know what the NRL will get with the rest of the media rights to sell, you couldn't make it up.

The same morons were hundreds of $millions behind after the first round, what makes you think you know what's happening with anything else to do with it now especially seeing as it's New Zealand which most of you couldn't point out on a map. Oh and the online rights, how in the hell would you people know how many people around the world sign up to watch Rugby League? Being a fan of the code and visiting many other forums, I have come across heaps of people who regularly watch Rugby League online.
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St Kilda Football Club has announced an operating profit of $631,135 for the financial year ending 31 October 2012.

CEO Michael Nettlefold was pleased with the result which contrasts with a trading deficit in 2011 of $1,500,772. “We are delighted to report a $2,131,907 turnaround in our financial performance over the past 12 months” he said.
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http://www.news.com.au/sport/AFL/port-a ... 6526658292

Port Adelaide loses 4.1 million this year.
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