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Re: NRL on paytv in NZ not guaranteed
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:29 am
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:ParraEelsNRL wrote:Weather, on field performance, money, whatever just like all sport.
That's the funny thing though. The majority of the AFL teams in NSW and Qld are in a poor state on field. Their support will reflect this. Yet all we hear from NRL fans is how AFL is declining because the code is failing to expand. It's just rubbish. If all 4 sides were winning regularly and in the top 4 yet still struggling on tv and crowds I'd say fair enough. But the lions suns and giants could make up the bottom three this year. Of course their following will suffer accordingly. It would in AFL heartland as well.
the Swans have been consistent finalists
yet they're crowds 5 years ago were 36,000 ... they're now 26,000
they were watched by an average of 155K people on TV in 2006
122K in 2007
95K in 2008.....
in 2011... it was down to 55K average
while RL crowds may go up & down due to on field performnaces
the Swans cannot claim the same
they are & the sport they play are...... on the nose
& no amount of but but butting .... from their delusional & their sports delusional fans
will hide this.

Re: NRL on paytv in NZ not guaranteed
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:33 am
by Raiderdave
Beaussie wrote:ParraEelsNRL wrote:Their crowds dropped after the first year because the stadium was refitted.
Hmm, yet that doesn't seem to be factored in for the decrease in crowds for the Swans during the SCG redevelopment. Surprise, surprise, hypocrisy from RL supporters.

phhhhttt ............
theres been more then 30K seats at the SCG throughout all recent developments
straw clutching much

Re: NRL on paytv in NZ not guaranteed
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:35 am
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:ParraEelsNRL wrote:Weather, on field performance, money, whatever just like all sport.
That's the funny thing though. The majority of the AFL teams in NSW and Qld are in a poor state on field. Their support will reflect this. Yet all we hear from NRL fans is how AFL is declining because the code is failing to expand. It's just rubbish. If all 4 sides were winning regularly and in the top 4 yet still struggling on tv and crowds I'd say fair enough. But the lions suns and giants could make up the bottom three this year. Of course their following will suffer accordingly. It would in AFL heartland as well.
the Swans have been consistent finalists
yet they're crowds 5 years ago were 36,000 ... they're now 26,000
they were watched by an average of 155K people on TV in 2006
122K in 2007
95K in 2008.....
in 2011... it was down to 55K average
while RL crowds may go up & down due to on field performnaces
the Swans cannot claim the same
they are & the sport they play are...... on the nose
& no amount of but but butting .... from their delusional & their sports delusional fans
will hide this.

So they made the GF in 2005/06, they scraped in to the finals the next 2 years, then were 12 in 2009 and lost many stars through retirement. They're on the way back up now and the crowds will follow, especially if the weather in Sydney this year improves. The better broadcasting of AFL in Sydney this year will also help.
Re: NRL on paytv in NZ not guaranteed
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:52 am
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:
That's the funny thing though. The majority of the AFL teams in NSW and Qld are in a poor state on field. Their support will reflect this. Yet all we hear from NRL fans is how AFL is declining because the code is failing to expand. It's just rubbish. If all 4 sides were winning regularly and in the top 4 yet still struggling on tv and crowds I'd say fair enough. But the lions suns and giants could make up the bottom three this year. Of course their following will suffer accordingly. It would in AFL heartland as well.
the Swans have been consistent finalists
yet they're crowds 5 years ago were 36,000 ... they're now 26,000
they were watched by an average of 155K people on TV in 2006
122K in 2007
95K in 2008.....
in 2011... it was down to 55K average
while RL crowds may go up & down due to on field performnaces
the Swans cannot claim the same
they are & the sport they play are...... on the nose
& no amount of but but butting .... from their delusional & their sports delusional fans
will hide this.

So they made the GF in 2005/06, they scraped in to the finals the next 2 years, then were 12 in 2009 and lost many stars through retirement. They're on the way back up now and the crowds will follow, especially if the weather in Sydney this year improves. The better broadcasting of AFL in Sydney this year will also help.
phhhttt .....they'll come back will they
down
down
down
thats the interest level for the Swans in Sydney
all your showing above is any support they .. gain ... they have a tenuous hold on
short of Grand finals
no one wants to know anything about them
AFL.. a failure in Sydney

Re: NRL on paytv in NZ not guaranteed
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:55 am
by Xman
Interesting view given they had a higher crowd average and membership number than any Sydney RL team.
Hmmmmmmm
Re: NRL on paytv in NZ not guaranteed
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:01 am
by Xman
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/so ... 6164305749
The Socceroos maintained their flawless start to qualifying for the 2014 Brazil World Cup with a comfortable 3-0 win over Oman at ANZ Stadium on Tuesday night.
Goals to Brett Holman, Josh Kennedy and Mile Jedinak ensured Australia claimed maximum points from their first three qualifiers after wins over Thailand and Saudi Arabia.
Road To Brazil: World Cup Qualifiers
Bangkok: Holman sends Socceroos through + 53 Muscat: Socceroos suffer shock Oman loss + 43 Sydney: Flawless Socceroos down Oman + 42 Damman: Kennedy double sinks Saudi Arabia + 41 Brisbane: Socceroos edge out Thailand + 50
The result means the Socceroos are virtually assured progression to the final stage of qualifying in June next year, likely only needing as little as a point from their remaining three games in the group to ensure it.
While Oman had proved stiff opposition in three previous meetings, Australia always looked in control in front of 24,372 fans, despite lacking a cutting edge in front of goal for parts of the game.
24k.
What was the swans average again? And this is an international, not even A league which averages 12k.
Re: NRL on paytv in NZ not guaranteed
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:05 am
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:Interesting view given they had a higher crowd average and membership number than any Sydney RL team.
Hmmmmmmm
not for long.. everything heading north for RL in Sydney .... everything heading south for the Swans
they're gone .......... AFL a failure in Sydney

Re: NRL on paytv in NZ not guaranteed
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:07 am
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/so ... 6164305749
The Socceroos maintained their flawless start to qualifying for the 2014 Brazil World Cup with a comfortable 3-0 win over Oman at ANZ Stadium on Tuesday night.
Goals to Brett Holman, Josh Kennedy and Mile Jedinak ensured Australia claimed maximum points from their first three qualifiers after wins over Thailand and Saudi Arabia.
Road To Brazil: World Cup Qualifiers
Bangkok: Holman sends Socceroos through + 53 Muscat: Socceroos suffer shock Oman loss + 43 Sydney: Flawless Socceroos down Oman + 42 Damman: Kennedy double sinks Saudi Arabia + 41 Brisbane: Socceroos edge out Thailand + 50
The result means the Socceroos are virtually assured progression to the final stage of qualifying in June next year, likely only needing as little as a point from their remaining three games in the group to ensure it.
While Oman had proved stiff opposition in three previous meetings, Australia always looked in control in front of 24,372 fans, despite lacking a cutting edge in front of goal for parts of the game.
24k.
What was the swans average again? And this is an international, not even A league which averages 12k.
put the socceroos on against Argentina in Sydney
& put the Swans on against Collingwood
who wins
end of debate

Re: NRL on paytv in NZ not guaranteed
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:10 am
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/so ... 6164305749
The Socceroos maintained their flawless start to qualifying for the 2014 Brazil World Cup with a comfortable 3-0 win over Oman at ANZ Stadium on Tuesday night.
Goals to Brett Holman, Josh Kennedy and Mile Jedinak ensured Australia claimed maximum points from their first three qualifiers after wins over Thailand and Saudi Arabia.
Road To Brazil: World Cup Qualifiers
Bangkok: Holman sends Socceroos through + 53 Muscat: Socceroos suffer shock Oman loss + 43 Sydney: Flawless Socceroos down Oman + 42 Damman: Kennedy double sinks Saudi Arabia + 41 Brisbane: Socceroos edge out Thailand + 50
The result means the Socceroos are virtually assured progression to the final stage of qualifying in June next year, likely only needing as little as a point from their remaining three games in the group to ensure it.
While Oman had proved stiff opposition in three previous meetings, Australia always looked in control in front of 24,372 fans, despite lacking a cutting edge in front of goal for parts of the game.
24k.
What was the swans average again? And this is an international, not even A league which averages 12k.
put the socceroos on against Argentina in Sydney
& put the Swans on against Collingwood
who wins
end of debate

Show me a link for that game. Or is it just fantasy?
Show me the total attendance for the socceroos last year in Sydney. Add that to the A league if you wish. Who wins?
Re: NRL on paytv in NZ not guaranteed
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:16 am
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:Raiderdave wrote:
put the socceroos on against Argentina in Sydney
& put the Swans on against Collingwood
who wins
end of debate

Show me a link for that game. Or is it just fantasy?
Show me the total attendance for the socceroos last year in Sydney. Add that to the A league if you wish. Who wins?
a fanatsy
no its a scenario ... that shows the state of popularity of the 2 games if push came to shove
you want to put up a socceroos game at the low end & say thats definitive proof
but how bout the other end of the scale
AFL... soccers bitch in Sydney

Re: NRL on paytv in NZ not guaranteed
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:29 am
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:Raiderdave wrote:
put the socceroos on against Argentina in Sydney
& put the Swans on against Collingwood
who wins
end of debate

Show me a link for that game. Or is it just fantasy?
Show me the total attendance for the socceroos last year in Sydney. Add that to the A league if you wish. Who wins?
a fanatsy
no its a scenario ... that shows the state of popularity of the 2 games if push came to shove
you want to put up a socceroos game at the low end & say thats definitive proof
but how bout the other end of the scale
AFL... soccers bitch in Sydney

So if this scenario drew a crowd higher than home and away RL in Sydney, which it would easily, would it then be fair to say that NRL is soccers bitch in Sydney, excluding SOO and finals?
Re: NRL on paytv in NZ not guaranteed
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:35 am
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:
Show me a link for that game. Or is it just fantasy?
Show me the total attendance for the socceroos last year in Sydney. Add that to the A league if you wish. Who wins?
a fanatsy
no its a scenario ... that shows the state of popularity of the 2 games if push came to shove
you want to put up a socceroos game at the low end & say thats definitive proof
but how bout the other end of the scale
AFL... soccers bitch in Sydney

So if this scenario drew a crowd higher than home and away RL in Sydney, which it would easily, would it then be fair to say that NRL is soccers bitch in Sydney, excluding SOO and finals?
well we have something up our sleave other then H&A games .... no good pretending we don't
but your lame pathetic sport does not
it its a very limited product ................ & is way down the pecking order as such
Re: NRL on paytv in NZ not guaranteed
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:44 am
by Xman
So that's a yes then? Soccer is a bigger sport than home and away NRL in Sydney. In fact the last international I saw in Sydney between Aus and NZ didn't draw many either.
Re: NRL on paytv in NZ not guaranteed
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:49 am
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:So that's a yes then? Soccer is a bigger sport than home and away NRL in Sydney. In fact the last international I saw in Sydney between Aus and NZ didn't draw many either.
socceroos & wallabies .. yes
are the sports they represent bigger then RL in Sydney
No
are they bigger then AFL
100% yes .....................
Re: NRL on paytv in NZ not guaranteed
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:56 am
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:So that's a yes then? Soccer is a bigger sport than home and away NRL in Sydney. In fact the last international I saw in Sydney between Aus and NZ didn't draw many either.
socceroos & wallabies .. yes
are the sports they represent bigger then RL in Sydney
No
are they bigger then AFL
100% yes .....................
Wow, RL in Sydney is pathetic. Even soccer is bigger than its national competition.
AFL in Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth is number 1.
Just goes to show how poor the following for the NrL really is.