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Re: 12,178 Foundation Members of GWS
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:45 pm
by Topper
The onus is on you. You made the claim. Prove it.
Re: 12,178 Foundation Members of GWS
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:03 pm
by Raiderdave
Topper wrote:The onus is on you. You made the claim. Prove it.
no its equally yours too
you're making a claim by questioning it
prove your claim
Re: 12,178 Foundation Members of GWS
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:04 pm
by Topper
No, you made the claim first and I answered it with the challenge. The onus is on you.
Re: 12,178 Foundation Members of GWS
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:30 pm
by Raiderdave
Topper wrote:No, you made the claim first and I answered it with the challenge. The onus is on you.
& im challenging you back
you seem pretty certain I'm wrong
prove it
Re: 12,178 Foundation Members of GWS
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:40 pm
by Topper
You first. You made the initial statement, If you don't it will prove that you have nothing and you should withdraw the allegation.
Re: 12,178 Foundation Members of GWS
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:55 pm
by Raiderdave
Topper wrote:You first. You made the initial statement, If you don't it will prove that you have nothing and you should withdraw the allegation.
so you can't prove me wrong then ?
Re: 12,178 Foundation Members of GWS
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:52 pm
by Topper
You refuse to provide evidence of the accuracy of your statement.
You will provide evidence and do it in the next post. Any attempt to divert from this will be ignored.
Re: 12,178 Foundation Members of GWS
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:26 pm
by Beaussie
enarelle wrote:Topper with regards to the Swans given their South Melbourne history wouldn't you think that a reasonable proportion of their members would be Victorians? Given that how many of their membership might be from Victoria? Similar questions would apply to the Lions given their Fitzroy background.
Additionally aren't people from the AFL states who now live in Sydney/Brisbane the most likely to join a local AFL team?
Given Victorian AFL fans are meant to be so passionate about their teams is it a surprise that they would continue membership even when the team relocates.
You really have no idea what you're talking about. Whilst threre is still a healthy supporter base for the Swans and Lions in Victoria, it is nothing compared to what the numbers there were when the clubs were local. It amazes me the Swans/Lions have been able to hang on to as many supporters as they have in Victoria. It's something GWS will not have the luxury of. The fact you don't understand any of this does not surprise me.
Re: 12,178 Foundation Members of GWS
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:21 pm
by Topper
Precisely.
Re: 12,178 Foundation Members of GWS
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:11 am
by Raiderdave
Topper wrote:You refuse to provide evidence of the accuracy of your statement.
You will provide evidence and do it in the next post. Any attempt to divert from this will be ignored.
so do you
I win....
Re: 12,178 Foundation Members of GWS
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:10 pm
by Topper
As I have explained, no human being can prove a negative which is what you are asking me to do. You claimed that the majority of supporters at games were expat Victorians. I challenged you on this by stating this is not true. It is up to you to prove your claim, otherwise you lose. This is your last chance.
Re: 12,178 Foundation Members of GWS
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:26 pm
by Raiderdave
Topper wrote:As I have explained, no human being can prove a negative which is what you are asking me to do. You claimed that the majority of supporters at games were expat Victorians. I challenged you on this by stating this is not true. It is up to you to prove your claim, otherwise you lose. This is your last chance.
who says that a negative .... ?
Re: 12,178 Foundation Members of GWS
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:26 pm
by Topper
As I have explained, no human being can prove a negative which is what you are asking me to do. You claimed that the majority of supporters at games were expat Victorians. I challenged you on this by stating this is not true. It is up to you to prove your claim, otherwise you lose. This is your last chance.
Re: 12,178 Foundation Members of GWS
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:56 pm
by Raiderdave
Topper wrote:As I have explained, no human being can prove a negative which is what you are asking me to do. You claimed that the majority of supporters at games were expat Victorians. I challenged you on this by stating this is not true. It is up to you to prove your claim, otherwise you lose. This is your last chance.
oh so when you claimed
" News Ltd has a majority on the NRL board "
or
" even the ARL reps on the NRL board have News Ltd allegiances "
you're able to prove this ?
Re: 12,178 Foundation Members of GWS
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:58 pm
by Topper
As I have explained, no human being can prove a negative which is what you are asking me to do. You claimed that the majority of supporters at games were expat Victorians. I challenged you on this by stating this is not true. It is up to you to prove your claim, otherwise you lose. This is your last chance.