Bris Lions at Deaths Door

[AFLcrap1]

You do realise that some NRL venues also have those same seating arrangements, don't you?

Straight on the defence of AFL.
Good work Mr Neutral.

[Cracker]

No, evening up the playing deck as a neutral person like me should do.

[TLPG]

That's a good point about slander, TLPG, but I should point out that the false claim rule has been removed by Beaussie so I can't delete it for that reason alone. For slander though I definitely could, however you made that not neccessary with your addition of a true on field basketcase. I will be interested to see how King Eliagh reacts to this. Are you aware of any other current on field basketcases?

Oh.

I didn't know that, and that's disappointing because it opens up a whole can of worms - especially as pretty much wrecks what the majority wanted.

Tell you what - if I have time tommorrow I'll look into maybe getting the Lions finances investigated. If they really are a basketcase off the field it's just possible to arrange for receivers to be sent in. But I'm not an expert so I wouldn't know where to start, and that's why there's a time restriction on me to pursue it. Unless someone else knows who to talk to.

[Cracker]

Well I wish you luck in finding someone who will take you seriously, TLPG.

[TLPG]

That's a good point about slander, TLPG, but I should point out that the false claim rule has been removed by Beaussie so I can't delete it for that reason alone. For slander though I definitely could, however you made that not neccessary with your addition of a true on field basketcase. I will be interested to see how King Eliagh reacts to this. Are you aware of any other current on field basketcases?

Oh.

I didn't know that, and that's disappointing because it opens up a whole can of worms - especially as pretty much wrecks what the majority wanted.

Tell you what - if I have time tommorrow I'll look into maybe getting the Lions finances investigated. If they really are a basketcase off the field it's just possible to arrange for receivers to be sent in. But I'm not an expert so I wouldn't know where to start, and that's why there's a time restriction on me to pursue it. Unless someone else knows who to talk to.

hahah wtf is this. You're an idiot. YOU'RE going to arrange for receivers? And which Lions creditor would you be that you could even instigate that proceeding? Which court are you a judge in to authorise it? Perhaps you serve on the Lions board? Without any of those three things, there is bugger all you can do.

The auditor clearly says that without the AFL guarantees the club would be unviable. The club can continue to operate as long as the AFL guarantee its incomes. Now, that doesnt make the club any less of a basketcase, it just means that the auditor is aware that the AFL will more than likely supply additional funding as needed.

Which does NOT make it a basketcase, ignoramus! Don't give me that BS. The game and the club is in okay shape and in a position to fight back. A true basketcase wouldn't be able to do that!

Oh and that example you gave is slander as well.

[Cracker]

That's a good point about slander, TLPG, but I should point out that the false claim rule has been removed by Beaussie so I can't delete it for that reason alone. For slander though I definitely could, however you made that not neccessary with your addition of a true on field basketcase. I will be interested to see how King Eliagh reacts to this. Are you aware of any other current on field basketcases?

hahaha slander. My what a precious mod you have become. This isnt a fight club, its a joke. Again, discussion forum, not a court.

Further if it was actually slander, something posted by someone else which might be true doesnt take away from the previous slanderous entry. That slander would still exist.

ie.
"Such and such is a goatfucker"
"heres also is the name of a probable goatfucker"
"oh that makes the first accusation of goatfucking ok as long as you supply the name of an actual goatfucker".

Further, Id suggest that you are remiss as a moderator by encouraging further derailent of the current topic by requesting the subject matter of another topic in this thread.

At this point you are openly encouraging me to delete this thread I hope you realize.

So be careful what you suggest.

I support your view of TLPG's proposed action, hence my comment further up.

[TLPG]

Which does NOT make it a basketcase, ignoramus! Don't give me that BS. The game and the club is in okay shape and in a position to fight back. A true basketcase wouldn't be able to do that!

Oh and that example you gave is slander as well.

Yay its this discussion again. Brisbane qualifies under the "severe financial problems" definition of basketcase. I know that you and your buddy Cracker have your own versions, but hey Ill run with the 12 million in losses since 2007 and negative 4 million in assets, a board that is broken, and requiring AFL intervention.

The example I gave is of course slander, unless i say the magic word "allegedly". Thats why it was an example, it was an example of why Cracker's reasoning was bad.

One could further claim that your repeated calling me names is abusive, if one was to be so petty.

It's NOT severe, because the revenue outstrips the accumulated debt!! What part of that don't you get, ignoramus??

[Cracker]

That's a good point about slander, TLPG, but I should point out that the false claim rule has been removed by Beaussie so I can't delete it for that reason alone. For slander though I definitely could, however you made that not neccessary with your addition of a true on field basketcase. I will be interested to see how King Eliagh reacts to this. Are you aware of any other current on field basketcases?

hahaha slander. My what a precious mod you have become. This isnt a fight club, its a joke. Again, discussion forum, not a court.

Further if it was actually slander, something posted by someone else which might be true doesnt take away from the previous slanderous entry. That slander would still exist.

ie.
"Such and such is a goatfucker"
"heres also is the name of a probable goatfucker"
"oh that makes the first accusation of goatfucking ok as long as you supply the name of an actual goatfucker".

Further, Id suggest that you are remiss as a moderator by encouraging further derailent of the current topic by requesting the subject matter of another topic in this thread.

At this point you are openly encouraging me to delete this thread I hope you realize.

So be careful what you suggest.

I support your view of TLPG's proposed action, hence my comment further up.

actually Im encouraging you to learn how to use the split thread function on the moderator panel, since you and TLPG have derailed this in recent pages.

No it hasn't been derailed at all. It's perfectly on topic.

[TLPG]

That doesn't prove a thing! The AFL has always looked to prop up all the clubs in thugby league heartland. Look at how much they're putting into West Sydney!

[Cracker]

Well that's a valid point at least.

[Cracker]

The present form of the Lions is only 17 years old. Aside from that, this point is about propping clubs up in rugby league territory. Age of clubs is actually not relevant. You don't think that they'll help the Swans if they got into trouble again?

[NRLCrap1]

Hey Wookie! Get back to us when Brisbane are playing as badly as Kilburn or Smythesdale against the rest of their comp!

[Cracker]

The present form of the Lions is only 17 years old. Aside from that, this point is about propping clubs up in rugby league territory. Age of clubs is actually not relevant. You don't think that they'll help the Swans if they got into trouble again?

ost certainly they would. that doesnt make the club any less of a basketcase, unless you think requiring bailouts and direct intervention by the governing body is supposedly a good thing.?

Only if the club is not a basketcase to begin with and is simply going through a bad trot. It happens to all elite level clubs - AFL, NRL and so on. Brisbane is going through a bad trot, nothing more.

If the club is a basketcase then any form of help that you are describing would not work and the club would collapse anyway. That is why the AFL would withdraw it's funding if it was a basketcase. They haven't, because it is not. The reports you linked are being misinterpreted by you. You are not presenting their actual view. You are presenting your own, and only your own.

[Cracker]

With no due respect Cracker, you need your head examined. In case you need clarification, thats addressed to you as a poster. The material ive linked shows quotes supporting my case from Leigh Matthews (Brisbane Director), and the the auditor of the Brisbane Annual Report. Suppose you tell me what expert advice you and TLPG are relying on other than your own guess work.

It's you with the guess work. At no stage was the term "basketcase" actually used in that material. The only person who is using it is you. It is your opinion, and your opinion only.

[Dogs]

Member survey reveals unrest about Brisbane Lions' leadership and direction


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/m ... z32S2Le82v

Supporters of the embattled Brisbane Lions are on the point of revolt, with a members' survey showing high levels of dissatisfaction with the club’s leadership and direction.