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[Fred]

Dave , do you do this for fun ... Make stuff up , comment on it and watch everyone fuss and post evidence of how wrong you always are. I'm thinking you're not that stupid and are playing us lol . Well done certainly got me in claiming rl had a large presence in Melbourne lol. Well done indeed ya bugger .

[piesman2011]

Dave got his stats from a newspaper report in the sydney morning herald which had NRL at 134 million viewers and it had AFL at 122 million viewers in 2012.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1o58v.html


In that same year the Australian had both sports dead even at 113/114 million. Now obviously the two newspapers are using different systems or they are adding different games, or both.
Now what Dave does wrong is that he compares last years SMH which uses a different tally system with this years Australian results. Which had the AFL going up from 114 to 123 million. It's like comparing apples and oranges. We don't even know what the Australian was comparing was it comparing just the regular season? Or was it comparing all RL and AFL games which were run by the NRL/ARLC and the AFL.
Other things to compare are NZ ratings and to top it off the introduction of phones/Tbox/lap tops which the AFL had in 2012 and now the NRL has introduced this year. Apparently in 2012 over 1 million people bought the AFL phone app, so how many games did they watch on the phones. Not to mention the viewers at he games themselves.

All of these results talk about total viewers per game and all games added together (cumulative audiences), however for total hours viewed the AFL is well on top by at least 150 million viewer hours there is no doubt of this. Even the Australian newspaper talked about 2 different systems for tallying the numbers. They admit that the AFL was in front for both systems, but in the other system the numbers were much closer.

[Fred]

I'm guessing that when they add up rugby leauge figurs like they did a few years ago they add in all viewing of rl. Qld cup, toyato cup etc. I think, and stress think, that was done when Roy maters was reporting more people watched rl on tv on Australia . The AFL figures included nab however didn't include state based comps on abc etc. also didn't factor in at the time the nrl had more matches I think. Anyway according to big footy AFL is well ahead.

[Brandz]

My bad Phelpsy, AFL does have better TV ratings but not by much. When the NRL combine NZ Ratings as well I think it is very close. RL also has origin, test matches and the allstars game to boost TV numbers, so it is better when all of them are combined. I reckon, that if the NRL expand to possibly Perth and Central QLD they will attract the same amount of viewers as the AFL does. Then possibly an expansion into Adelaide a bit further down the track.

In membership news, South Sydney first club to crack 25,000 for the NRL, Brisbane are closely behind them and are expected to crack 25,000 by the weekend or early next week.

captain ignorant strikes again
they don't need NZ .. or any expanded team .. or anything else ... they are in front now & have been since 2009

Rugby League games played by NRL players in 2012 were watched by 134 million veiwers on TV
games played by VFL players
123 Million

if you don't know about stuff
best not to comment

k pal ?

Give the BS a rest dopey Dave.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/r ... 6525246762

Dave still spinning bullshit, nothing new on this thread lol
I dont know where you get your figures from Dave but wherever there from theyve been blown out of proportion by the looks of it. Think about it, AFL dominates Victoria, South Australia, Western Australia, Northern Territory and Tasmania and has a fairly good following in Sydney and maybe parts of QLD so there obviously going to get a better TV raiting in Oz until some expansion gets going. I'm not taking the AFL's side, Im just being realistic.

Beaussie, those are the figures I seen as well which were done by OzTAM. Like I said before, it might be alot closer when origin, NZ Ratings & test matches are added up?

[piesman2011]

I'm guessing that when they add up rugby leauge figurs like they did a few years ago they add in all viewing of rl. Qld cup, toyato cup etc. I think, and stress think, that was done when Roy maters was reporting more people watched rl on tv on Australia . The AFL figures included nab however didn't include state based comps on abc etc. also didn't factor in at the time the nrl had more matches I think. Anyway according to big footy AFL is well ahead.

Big footy doesnt include the regionals often as not.

[piesman2011]

captain ignorant strikes again
they don't need NZ .. or any expanded team .. or anything else ... they are in front now & have been since 2009

Rugby League games played by NRL players in 2012 were watched by 134 million veiwers on TV
games played by VFL players
123 Million

if you don't know about stuff
best not to comment

k pal ?

Give the BS a rest dopey Dave.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/r ... 6525246762

Dave still spinning bullshit, nothing new on this thread lol
I dont know where you get your figures from Dave but wherever there from theyve been blown out of proportion by the looks of it. Think about it, AFL dominates Victoria, South Australia, Western Australia, Northern Territory and Tasmania and has a fairly good following in Sydney and maybe parts of QLD so there obviously going to get a better TV raiting in Oz until some expansion gets going. I'm not taking the AFL's side, Im just being realistic.

Beaussie, those are the figures I seen as well which were done by OzTAM. Like I said before, it might be alot closer when origin, NZ Ratings & test matches are added up?

Unfortunately Dave talks so much shit you often ignore everything he says. However here he at least has a point in that RL definately competes with AFL for TV ratings. I wouldnt say for sure that AFL is ahead at least on a game for game analysis of viewership. It is really to hard to tell with the current lack of evidence.
The Australian newspaper was the only one that released 2012 ratings totals and even though they had the AFL ahead by about 10 million, they didnt explain what they included into their totals. RL and AFL both rate well, thats the bottom line and why they both get similar TV deals.

[Raiderdave]

captain ignorant strikes again
they don't need NZ .. or any expanded team .. or anything else ... they are in front now & have been since 2009

Rugby League games played by NRL players in 2012 were watched by 134 million veiwers on TV
games played by VFL players
123 Million

if you don't know about stuff
best not to comment

k pal ?

Give the BS a rest dopey Dave.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/r ... 6525246762

Dave still spinning bullshit, nothing new on this thread lol
I dont know where you get your figures from Dave but wherever there from theyve been blown out of proportion by the looks of it. Think about it, AFL dominates Victoria, South Australia, Western Australia, Northern Territory and Tasmania and has a fairly good following in Sydney and maybe parts of QLD so there obviously going to get a better TV raiting in Oz until some expansion gets going. I'm not taking the AFL's side, Im just being realistic.

Beaussie, those are the figures I seen as well which were done by OzTAM. Like I said before, it might be alot closer when origin, NZ Ratings & test matches are added up?

yes ...
ah cockhead

that NRL figure is for the NRL competition only
it does not include the SOO
either Test against NZ
the all stars match
or the city country match

how do I know this shit for brains ?

because in 2011 Rugby League attracted 134 Million veiwers
sorta kinda think ... that if it dropped by 20 Million ... it mighta made a headline or 2 ... don't ya think


wow
what a dick

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1o58v.html





RUGBY league's new Independent Commission will demand a full-season schedule from its new television rights partner in 2013 after yesterday's chief executives conference revealed rugby league as the highest ratings sport on Australian TV, outweighing the AFL by 12 million viewers this year.
In the first annual chairmen and chief executives conference involving the incoming commissioners, plus representatives from all major state and national leagues, the 2011 season review revealed rugby league had a cumulative audience of 134 million viewers, without including a further 12 million in New Zealand.
The NRL also won the battle against the AFL on highest average ratings, taking out the top rankings on free-to-air and pay television, while audiences grew on both mediums by 1.3 per cent and 16 per cent respectively.

The results impressed the soon-to-be-commissioners, all of whom agreed with the clubs that the new TV rights deal needed to reflect rugby league's television audience dominance.

Advertisement "They are a powerful set of results across the coverage of the game," NRL chief executive David Gallop said. "As we look towards media negotiations in the months ahead they are a reminder of rugby league's value in the market."

Commission chairman John Grant was just as buoyant and was confident that once the new body was in place television rights would be the first matter on the agenda to develop the game.

"It is important that as we look towards a significant growth in revenue that there is a strategy that underpins the way that money is used,'' he said.

The meeting involved lengthy discussion of TV rights negotiations, reiterating that they would start after the commission officially took control.

The commission and the clubs would strongly pursue the concept of a ''full-season'' schedule with days and time slots determined at the start of the year, unlike the rolling schedule that exists at present.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2SCPo4mRf

[piesman2011]

So According to Dave AFL 123 (the Australian 2012) to NRL 134 (smh 2011). Where they are using two different systems to add up the results. Therefore RL wins, very simple logic but not accurate. Dave talks about SOO and about 4 rep games not being added to the Australian's results, but does this add up to 20 million? Perhaps they are simply using a different system to tally the viewers. If we are going to compare the two codes we need to use the same system and we cant be sure that the Australian and the SMH used the same system so 123 to 134 cant be used.
This is the way I would compare the two systems using the SMH results.
The Australian had AFL up by about 8.55% for its totals going from 2011 into 2012, while RL stayed about the same. So the smh results should have gone up by 8.55% for AFL from 122 to 133 million. Which is about the same as RL (134 million). But this is when it gets confusing, what do we do with NZ ratings, Tbox, phone ratings and tablet ratings which we cant work out, very easily. Should they be included?. Should we add bums on seats which the AFL had a 3.3 million advantage over the NRL? They certainly were viewers. The NRL had 12 million NZ viewers and the AFL had some to ( not many) but we cant work out how many, should they be added? When do we stop adding international viewers?
All we know for sure is that the Australian had NRL 114 million and AFL 123 million whatever that means.

[Brandz]

Give the BS a rest dopey Dave.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/r ... 6525246762

Dave still spinning bullshit, nothing new on this thread lol
I dont know where you get your figures from Dave but wherever there from theyve been blown out of proportion by the looks of it. Think about it, AFL dominates Victoria, South Australia, Western Australia, Northern Territory and Tasmania and has a fairly good following in Sydney and maybe parts of QLD so there obviously going to get a better TV raiting in Oz until some expansion gets going. I'm not taking the AFL's side, Im just being realistic.

Beaussie, those are the figures I seen as well which were done by OzTAM. Like I said before, it might be alot closer when origin, NZ Ratings & test matches are added up?

yes ...
ah cockhead

that NRL figure is for the NRL competition only
it does not include the SOO
either Test against NZ
the all stars match
or the city country match

how do I know this shit for brains ?

because in 2011 Rugby League attracted 134 Million veiwers
sorta kinda think ... that if it dropped by 20 Million ... it mighta made a headline or 2 ... don't ya think


wow
what a dick

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1o58v.html





RUGBY league's new Independent Commission will demand a full-season schedule from its new television rights partner in 2013 after yesterday's chief executives conference revealed rugby league as the highest ratings sport on Australian TV, outweighing the AFL by 12 million viewers this year.
In the first annual chairmen and chief executives conference involving the incoming commissioners, plus representatives from all major state and national leagues, the 2011 season review revealed rugby league had a cumulative audience of 134 million viewers, without including a further 12 million in New Zealand.
The NRL also won the battle against the AFL on highest average ratings, taking out the top rankings on free-to-air and pay television, while audiences grew on both mediums by 1.3 per cent and 16 per cent respectively.

The results impressed the soon-to-be-commissioners, all of whom agreed with the clubs that the new TV rights deal needed to reflect rugby league's television audience dominance.

Advertisement "They are a powerful set of results across the coverage of the game," NRL chief executive David Gallop said. "As we look towards media negotiations in the months ahead they are a reminder of rugby league's value in the market."

Commission chairman John Grant was just as buoyant and was confident that once the new body was in place television rights would be the first matter on the agenda to develop the game.

"It is important that as we look towards a significant growth in revenue that there is a strategy that underpins the way that money is used,'' he said.

The meeting involved lengthy discussion of TV rights negotiations, reiterating that they would start after the commission officially took control.

The commission and the clubs would strongly pursue the concept of a ''full-season'' schedule with days and time slots determined at the start of the year, unlike the rolling schedule that exists at present.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2SCPo4mRf

I still think the ratings are closer then what you think Dave. Media talk to much shit for me to believe them sometimes and TV ratings are hard to comprehend.

134 million viewers for the NRL, just seems odd. I would understand if it was NRL +SOO, Test Matches and NZ Ratings but it's not. If that was the case, why couldnt the NRL attract a bigger Televison deal then the AFL? I mean with those kindve numbers would'nt every TV network want a piece of that viewership...

Your like the little boy who cried wolf, you could be telling the truth but no one will believe you because of the shit you've already posted on this forum lol

[Stewie]

Dave still spinning bullshit, nothing new on this thread lol
I dont know where you get your figures from Dave but wherever there from theyve been blown out of proportion by the looks of it. Think about it, AFL dominates Victoria, South Australia, Western Australia, Northern Territory and Tasmania and has a fairly good following in Sydney and maybe parts of QLD so there obviously going to get a better TV raiting in Oz until some expansion gets going. I'm not taking the AFL's side, Im just being realistic.

Beaussie, those are the figures I seen as well which were done by OzTAM. Like I said before, it might be alot closer when origin, NZ Ratings & test matches are added up?

yes ...
ah cockhead

that NRL figure is for the NRL competition only
it does not include the SOO
either Test against NZ
the all stars match
or the city country match

how do I know this shit for brains ?

because in 2011 Rugby League attracted 134 Million veiwers
sorta kinda think ... that if it dropped by 20 Million ... it mighta made a headline or 2 ... don't ya think


wow
what a dick

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1o58v.html





RUGBY league's new Independent Commission will demand a full-season schedule from its new television rights partner in 2013 after yesterday's chief executives conference revealed rugby league as the highest ratings sport on Australian TV, outweighing the AFL by 12 million viewers this year.
In the first annual chairmen and chief executives conference involving the incoming commissioners, plus representatives from all major state and national leagues, the 2011 season review revealed rugby league had a cumulative audience of 134 million viewers, without including a further 12 million in New Zealand.
The NRL also won the battle against the AFL on highest average ratings, taking out the top rankings on free-to-air and pay television, while audiences grew on both mediums by 1.3 per cent and 16 per cent respectively.

The results impressed the soon-to-be-commissioners, all of whom agreed with the clubs that the new TV rights deal needed to reflect rugby league's television audience dominance.

Advertisement "They are a powerful set of results across the coverage of the game," NRL chief executive David Gallop said. "As we look towards media negotiations in the months ahead they are a reminder of rugby league's value in the market."

Commission chairman John Grant was just as buoyant and was confident that once the new body was in place television rights would be the first matter on the agenda to develop the game.

"It is important that as we look towards a significant growth in revenue that there is a strategy that underpins the way that money is used,'' he said.

The meeting involved lengthy discussion of TV rights negotiations, reiterating that they would start after the commission officially took control.

The commission and the clubs would strongly pursue the concept of a ''full-season'' schedule with days and time slots determined at the start of the year, unlike the rolling schedule that exists at present.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2SCPo4mRf

Your like the little boy who cried wolf, you could be telling the truth but no one will believe you because of the shit you've already posted on this forum lol

This. Raiderdave needs to understand that whatever he says in this site won't be taken seriously, let alone believed as it's nothing but his clueless opinion and never backed up with facts.

[Raiderdave]

Dave still spinning bullshit, nothing new on this thread lol
I dont know where you get your figures from Dave but wherever there from theyve been blown out of proportion by the looks of it. Think about it, AFL dominates Victoria, South Australia, Western Australia, Northern Territory and Tasmania and has a fairly good following in Sydney and maybe parts of QLD so there obviously going to get a better TV raiting in Oz until some expansion gets going. I'm not taking the AFL's side, Im just being realistic.

Beaussie, those are the figures I seen as well which were done by OzTAM. Like I said before, it might be alot closer when origin, NZ Ratings & test matches are added up?

yes ...
ah cockhead

that NRL figure is for the NRL competition only
it does not include the SOO
either Test against NZ
the all stars match
or the city country match

how do I know this shit for brains ?

because in 2011 Rugby League attracted 134 Million veiwers
sorta kinda think ... that if it dropped by 20 Million ... it mighta made a headline or 2 ... don't ya think


wow
what a dick

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1o58v.html





RUGBY league's new Independent Commission will demand a full-season schedule from its new television rights partner in 2013 after yesterday's chief executives conference revealed rugby league as the highest ratings sport on Australian TV, outweighing the AFL by 12 million viewers this year.
In the first annual chairmen and chief executives conference involving the incoming commissioners, plus representatives from all major state and national leagues, the 2011 season review revealed rugby league had a cumulative audience of 134 million viewers, without including a further 12 million in New Zealand.
The NRL also won the battle against the AFL on highest average ratings, taking out the top rankings on free-to-air and pay television, while audiences grew on both mediums by 1.3 per cent and 16 per cent respectively.

The results impressed the soon-to-be-commissioners, all of whom agreed with the clubs that the new TV rights deal needed to reflect rugby league's television audience dominance.

Advertisement "They are a powerful set of results across the coverage of the game," NRL chief executive David Gallop said. "As we look towards media negotiations in the months ahead they are a reminder of rugby league's value in the market."

Commission chairman John Grant was just as buoyant and was confident that once the new body was in place television rights would be the first matter on the agenda to develop the game.

"It is important that as we look towards a significant growth in revenue that there is a strategy that underpins the way that money is used,'' he said.

The meeting involved lengthy discussion of TV rights negotiations, reiterating that they would start after the commission officially took control.

The commission and the clubs would strongly pursue the concept of a ''full-season'' schedule with days and time slots determined at the start of the year, unlike the rolling schedule that exists at present.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2SCPo4mRf

I still think the ratings are closer then what you think Dave.

I think you have trouble working out the difference between yr A hole & yr ear hole
lets just leave it at that shall we

[Raiderdave]

yes ...
ah cockhead

that NRL figure is for the NRL competition only
it does not include the SOO
either Test against NZ
the all stars match
or the city country match

how do I know this shit for brains ?

because in 2011 Rugby League attracted 134 Million veiwers
sorta kinda think ... that if it dropped by 20 Million ... it mighta made a headline or 2 ... don't ya think


wow
what a dick

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1o58v.html





RUGBY league's new Independent Commission will demand a full-season schedule from its new television rights partner in 2013 after yesterday's chief executives conference revealed rugby league as the highest ratings sport on Australian TV, outweighing the AFL by 12 million viewers this year.
In the first annual chairmen and chief executives conference involving the incoming commissioners, plus representatives from all major state and national leagues, the 2011 season review revealed rugby league had a cumulative audience of 134 million viewers, without including a further 12 million in New Zealand.
The NRL also won the battle against the AFL on highest average ratings, taking out the top rankings on free-to-air and pay television, while audiences grew on both mediums by 1.3 per cent and 16 per cent respectively.

The results impressed the soon-to-be-commissioners, all of whom agreed with the clubs that the new TV rights deal needed to reflect rugby league's television audience dominance.

Advertisement "They are a powerful set of results across the coverage of the game," NRL chief executive David Gallop said. "As we look towards media negotiations in the months ahead they are a reminder of rugby league's value in the market."

Commission chairman John Grant was just as buoyant and was confident that once the new body was in place television rights would be the first matter on the agenda to develop the game.

"It is important that as we look towards a significant growth in revenue that there is a strategy that underpins the way that money is used,'' he said.

The meeting involved lengthy discussion of TV rights negotiations, reiterating that they would start after the commission officially took control.

The commission and the clubs would strongly pursue the concept of a ''full-season'' schedule with days and time slots determined at the start of the year, unlike the rolling schedule that exists at present.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2SCPo4mRf

Your like the little boy who cried wolf, you could be telling the truth but no one will believe you because of the shit you've already posted on this forum lol

This. Raiderdave needs to understand that whatever he says in this site won't be taken seriously, let alone believed as it's nothing but his clueless opinion and never backed up with facts.

what I said ?

yes

I wrote that article for fairfax didn't I you blithering fuckstick

[Fred]

I think those figures include all rl shown on tv but not all Aussie rules . I think ??

[Raiderdave]

I think those figures include all rl shown on tv but not all Aussie rules . I think ??

you'd think wrong as per usual

[saggy_boob_sock]

Ahhhhhh hahahaha fuck you are pathetic lamerdave. Fabricating viewer numbers. Ba!

Very nice infographic Beaussie. Now, lets see shitcuntdave try and skim over those big numbers. I know you won't disappoint bro, you are very good at making shit up, and you always really try to deliver some unworthy bullshit.

Anyway, I did a bit of research, check out my excel in the .zip for yourself (attached). Turns out that viewers are still on top of AFL games rather than nrl games.