Fight Club - Football TV Ratings (AFL vs NRL)

eelofwest · Post by **eelofwest** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:04 pm

eelofwest wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
eelofwest wrote:
Nope it says nothing lol

On what basis are they number 1 sports channel on Foxtel?

Its okay you cant beat the facts and those are that NRL Smashes AFL to pieces on Foxtel.
wow

the NRL is handing the VFL their nads in a cup on pay TV again in 2012
but the extent is surprising even to me

wot a code
it just cannot be beaten =D> =D> =D>
Just thought i would get things back on topic about NRL smashing AFL on Fox

Last weeks Fox Smashing :D .

eelofwest · Post by **eelofwest** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:06 pm

Pay Tv Battle NRL vs AFL

AFL 9 Live games
LIVE: AFL CARLTON V COLLINGWOOD FOX FOOTY 329,000
LIVE: AFL GOLD COAST V ESSENDON FOX SPORTS 1 178,000
LIVE: AFL FREMANTLE V LIONS FOX FOOTY 170,000
LIVE: AFL RICHMOND V MELBOURNE FOX FOOTY 155,000
LIVE: AFL BULLDOGS V ST KILDA FOX FOOTY 127,000
LIVE: AFL PORT ADELAIDE V SYDNEY FOX SPORTS 1 118,000
LIVE: AFL NORTH MELBOURNE V GEELONG FOX FOOTY 227,000
LIVE: AFL GWS V WEST COAST FOX FOOTY 153,000
LIVE: AFL HAWTHORN V ADELAIDE FOX SPORTS 1 124,000

Total for 9 games = 1581,000 / 9 = 175,600

NRL 4 Live games 1 game played in Northern Territory not live

NRL NZ fox sports
13th Friday game NRL: 41,470 (9:45pm – 11:30pm)
14th Saturday NRL: 33,640 (7:35pm – 9:10pm)
15th Sunday NRL: 106,210

LIVE: NRL STORM V BULLDOGS FOX SPORTS 2 286,000
LIVE: NRL SEA EAGLES V TITANS FOX SPORTS 2 259,000
LIVE: NRL SHARKS V EELS FOX SPORTS 2 257,000
LIVE: NRL WARRIORS V RABBITOHS FOX SPORTS 2 179,000 + Nz Fox sports 106,210 = 285,210

Total for 4 games Live = 1087.210/ 4 = 271.802 Imagine 8 games of Fox next year.

NRL ROOSTERS V COWBOYS FOX SPORTS 2 97,000 Played in Northern Territory not live on Fox

http://www.throng.co.nz/

Again NRL smashing AFL on Fox, Damm Fox would be worried expecting a jump from the other states but it doesn’t look like it’s to eventuate.
Let’s wait till say round 12 and if these numbers don’t improve Foxtel is going to be shattered Just like Channel 10 were when they gave back the rights to Some AFL games last year.

enarelle · Post by **enarelle** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:18 pm

Rugby League supporters and perhaps supporters of all codes bar AFL are in for a special treat in the not too distant future. It relates to the dollars the NRL will get for their next five years of TV rights. The amount itself will be important but the really funny stuff will come as the AFL crew go to dizzying heights to justify their "domination". When ever confronted by TV ratings that put the NRL in front the argument becomes the regionals are dodgy so they are out. Never mind that twice as many people live in regional NSW/QLD as the AFL states or that the AFL has no regional teams when it comes to regional TV zones while the NRL has 4 not to mention NZ. NRL is not "allowed" to count NZ,regionals or rep games because the AFL does not have them.

When really pushed the ultimate claim " is look at the dollars we get". "These TV geniuses know the value of our sport" "An AFL game goes 50% longer than a NRL game" So as we approach the end of the exclusive dealing period for Nine,Fox and Telstra we have that "evil genius" of the NRL,Roy Masters, claiming the NRL will get $1.2b. Surely this is impossible given the 50% longer AFL game. NRL should only get $800m. But wait a minute that would mean that a minute of NRL will be worth the same as an AFL minute. Crazy talk so the NRL can only get $700m or less. Why if the NRL gets $1.2b or even $1b that means that NRL minutes are worth more than AFL minutes! Given the regionals are worthless in ratings those Sydney/Brisbane markets are worth a fortune. A lot more than AFL -noooooooooooo it cannot be. Anyway Channel 10 is broke so they wont bid. No there strategy is to keep paying big money for low ratings shows not bid for a surefire ratings winner. Not to mention why would you want to make it harder for your competitor to keep their best rating product. That would not be nice.

Those TV geniuses cannot really give the NRL a $1b+? Sure Sports bet has the $1b+ as the 6-4 favorite. Sure all the TV channels are talking how they wont be beat for the rights. Fox has gone into hyper drive since their own polling showed if they lost league they lost subscribers big time.

The decline and fall of the NRL is imminent they will just need to spend alot of money quickly on the way out. However, as I have already stated the real challenge will be for the AFL crew to reshape all their arguments as to why the NRL cannot even get close to the AFL deal. Thing is I know their up to it. It will be hilarious.

pussycat · Post by **pussycat** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:24 pm

I know I watched 2 games on Friday night and I didnt go up to Qld to watch the second, So where are the missing ratings?

Xman · Post by **Xman** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:27 pm

Total ratings (metro fta + fox)

Carlton v Collingwood 1,207,000
Port v Sydney 225,000
Richmond v Melbourne 298,000
Fremantle v Brisbane 344,000
Bulldogs v St Kilda 127,000
Gold Coast v Essendon 791,000
GWS v West Coast 240,000
Hawthorn v Adelaide 484,000
North v Geelong 227,000

Total ratings 3,943,000 (new round 3 record for combined metro/fox)
2011 Round 3 Total 2,735,000
Old Round 3 Record 3,624,000 (2010)

Third record weekend in a row. Note this would have beaten almost every other weekend on record except for the last 2 rounds.

Courtesy of the Wookie on BF. :D

Xman · Post by **Xman** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:29 pm

eelofwest wrote:
Pay Tv Battle NRL vs AFL

AFL 9 Live games
LIVE: AFL CARLTON V COLLINGWOOD FOX FOOTY 329,000
LIVE: AFL GOLD COAST V ESSENDON FOX SPORTS 1 178,000
LIVE: AFL FREMANTLE V LIONS FOX FOOTY 170,000
LIVE: AFL RICHMOND V MELBOURNE FOX FOOTY 155,000
LIVE: AFL BULLDOGS V ST KILDA FOX FOOTY 127,000
LIVE: AFL PORT ADELAIDE V SYDNEY FOX SPORTS 1 118,000
LIVE: AFL NORTH MELBOURNE V GEELONG FOX FOOTY 227,000
LIVE: AFL GWS V WEST COAST FOX FOOTY 153,000
LIVE: AFL HAWTHORN V ADELAIDE FOX SPORTS 1 124,000

Total for 9 games = 1581,000 / 9 = 175,600

NRL 4 Live games 1 game played in Northern Territory not live

NRL NZ fox sports
13th Friday game NRL: 41,470 (9:45pm – 11:30pm)
14th Saturday NRL: 33,640 (7:35pm – 9:10pm)
15th Sunday NRL: 106,210

LIVE: NRL STORM V BULLDOGS FOX SPORTS 2 286,000
LIVE: NRL SEA EAGLES V TITANS FOX SPORTS 2 259,000
LIVE: NRL SHARKS V EELS FOX SPORTS 2 257,000
LIVE: NRL WARRIORS V RABBITOHS FOX SPORTS 2 179,000 + Nz Fox sports 106,210 = 285,210

Total for 4 games Live = 1087.210/ 4 = 271.802 Imagine 8 games of Fox next year.

NRL ROOSTERS V COWBOYS FOX SPORTS 2 97,000 Played in Northern Territory not live on Fox

http://www.throng.co.nz/

Again NRL smashing AFL on Fox, Damm Fox would be worried expecting a jump from the other states but it doesn’t look like it’s to eventuate.
Let’s wait till say round 12 and if these numbers don’t improve Foxtel is going to be shattered Just like Channel 10 were when they gave back the rights to Some AFL games last year.

So the AFL on foxtel got 1581k and the NRL got 1087k. Got it.

No wonder fox footy has is the number one foxtel channel again! =D>

pookus · Post by **pookus** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:42 pm

Oh pussycat I admire your Anzac spirit.You take a good lickin and you keep on tickin unfortunately you come across as delusional.I personally buy a 500 dollar membership each year and donated 500 this year to the club.Im guessing I spend each year what youve spent in your life time on my club and I am the norm in AFL circles.You might get big dollars for your ratings but youll never have the money of the AFL.Lets face it in comparison the NRL is a cottage industry.By the way the highest rating football game on foxtel this week was AFL,worrying signs.

Xman · Post by **Xman** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:44 pm

http://www.oztam.com.au//documents/2012 ... chCons.pdf

Well here it is guys and girls! Firm proof the AFL's fox footy channel is SMASHING IT on foxtel!

Fox Footy picked up a 3.1% share of viewing in subscription TV households. This compares very well to Fox 8 (2.5%) and the heavily NRL dominated Fox Sports 2 (2.4%).

The figures are even better when you consider:

- some AFL matches were shown on Fox Sports 1

- these figures exclude Tasmania (as noted in the report) and rEportedly regional WA and SA which are not part of the national subscription TV panel - all up a 1.25m football heartland population.

=D> =D>

Pacman · Post by **Pacman** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:50 pm

enarelle wrote:
Rugby League supporters and perhaps supporters of all codes bar AFL are in for a special treat in the not too distant future. It relates to the dollars the NRL will get for their next five years of TV rights. The amount itself will be important but the really funny stuff will come as the AFL crew go to dizzying heights to justify their "domination". When ever confronted by TV ratings that put the NRL in front the argument becomes the regionals are dodgy so they are out. Never mind that twice as many people live in regional NSW/QLD as the AFL states or that the AFL has no regional teams when it comes to regional TV zones while the NRL has 4 not to mention NZ. NRL is not "allowed" to count NZ,regionals or rep games because the AFL does not have them.

When really pushed the ultimate claim " is look at the dollars we get". "These TV geniuses know the value of our sport" "An AFL game goes 50% longer than a NRL game" So as we approach the end of the exclusive dealing period for Nine,Fox and Telstra we have that "evil genius" of the NRL,Roy Masters, claiming the NRL will get $1.2b. Surely this is impossible given the 50% longer AFL game. NRL should only get $800m. But wait a minute that would mean that a minute of NRL will be worth the same as an AFL minute. Crazy talk so the NRL can only get $700m or less. Why if the NRL gets $1.2b or even $1b that means that NRL minutes are worth more than AFL minutes! Given the regionals are worthless in ratings those Sydney/Brisbane markets are worth a fortune. A lot more than AFL -noooooooooooo it cannot be. Anyway Channel 10 is broke so they wont bid. No there strategy is to keep paying big money for low ratings shows not bid for a surefire ratings winner. Not to mention why would you want to make it harder for your competitor to keep their best rating product. That would not be nice.

Those TV geniuses cannot really give the NRL a $1b+? Sure Sports bet has the $1b+ as the 6-4 favorite. Sure all the TV channels are talking how they wont be beat for the rights. Fox has gone into hyper drive since their own polling showed if they lost league they lost subscribers big time.

The decline and fall of the NRL is imminent they will just need to spend alot of money quickly on the way out. However, as I have already stated the real challenge will be for the AFL crew to reshape all their arguments as to why the NRL cannot even get close to the AFL deal. Thing is I know their up to it. It will be hilarious.

Value of the next NRL broadcast deal
$5 More than $1.25bn
$3.25 $1,000,000,001 to $1.25bn
$1.80 $750,000,001 to $1bn
$11 $750m or less

Xman · Post by **Xman** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:01 pm

eelofwest wrote:
Pay Tv Battle NRL vs AFL

AFL 9 Live games
LIVE: AFL CARLTON V COLLINGWOOD FOX FOOTY 329,000
LIVE: AFL GOLD COAST V ESSENDON FOX SPORTS 1 178,000
LIVE: AFL FREMANTLE V LIONS FOX FOOTY 170,000
LIVE: AFL RICHMOND V MELBOURNE FOX FOOTY 155,000
LIVE: AFL BULLDOGS V ST KILDA FOX FOOTY 127,000
LIVE: AFL PORT ADELAIDE V SYDNEY FOX SPORTS 1 118,000
LIVE: AFL NORTH MELBOURNE V GEELONG FOX FOOTY 227,000
LIVE: AFL GWS V WEST COAST FOX FOOTY 153,000
LIVE: AFL HAWTHORN V ADELAIDE FOX SPORTS 1 124,000

Total for 9 games = 1581,000 / 9 = 175,600

NRL 4 Live games 1 game played in Northern Territory not live

NRL NZ fox sports
13th Friday game NRL: 41,470 (9:45pm – 11:30pm)
14th Saturday NRL: 33,640 (7:35pm – 9:10pm)
15th Sunday NRL: 106,210

LIVE: NRL STORM V BULLDOGS FOX SPORTS 2 286,000
LIVE: NRL SEA EAGLES V TITANS FOX SPORTS 2 259,000
LIVE: NRL SHARKS V EELS FOX SPORTS 2 257,000
LIVE: NRL WARRIORS V RABBITOHS FOX SPORTS 2 179,000 + Nz Fox sports 106,210 = 285,210

Total for 4 games Live = 1087.210/ 4 = 271.802 Imagine 8 games of Fox next year.

NRL ROOSTERS V COWBOYS FOX SPORTS 2 97,000 Played in Northern Territory not live on Fox

http://www.throng.co.nz/

Again NRL smashing AFL on Fox, Damm Fox would be worried expecting a jump from the other states but it doesn’t look like it’s to eventuate.
Let’s wait till say round 12 and if these numbers don’t improve Foxtel is going to be shattered Just like Channel 10 were when they gave back the rights to Some AFL games last year.

How about trying a bit of the truth!

Note that three of the AFLs foxtel games were on Fox1. Why? Because they overlapped another foxtel game, splitting the market. So the AFL total of 1581 should be divided by only 6 since there were only 6 game sessions shown in isolation. Therefore the average per isolated game sessions is 263.5k.

A great result when the games are averaged over 3 hours! =D>

Yahoooo · Post by **Yahoooo** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:02 pm

Xman wrote:
http://www.oztam.com.au//documents/2012 ... chCons.pdf

Well here it is guys and girls! Firm proof the AFL's fox footy channel is SMASHING IT on foxtel!

Fox Footy picked up a 3.1% share of viewing in subscription TV households. This compares very well to Fox 8 (2.5%) and the heavily NRL dominated Fox Sports 2 (2.4%).

The figures are even better when you consider:

- some AFL matches were shown on Fox Sports 1

- these figures exclude Tasmania (as noted in the report) and rEportedly regional WA and SA which are not part of the national subscription TV panel - all up a 1.25m football heartland population.

=D> =D>

Don't forget fox footy is exclusively AFL. Fox footy 2 shows nrl, cricket, and a bunch of other shows

Xman · Post by **Xman** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:18 pm

Yahoooo wrote:
Xman wrote:
http://www.oztam.com.au//documents/2012 ... chCons.pdf

Well here it is guys and girls! Firm proof the AFL's fox footy channel is SMASHING IT on foxtel!

Fox Footy picked up a 3.1% share of viewing in subscription TV households. This compares very well to Fox 8 (2.5%) and the heavily NRL dominated Fox Sports 2 (2.4%).

The figures are even better when you consider:

- some AFL matches were shown on Fox Sports 1

- these figures exclude Tasmania (as noted in the report) and rEportedly regional WA and SA which are not part of the national subscription TV panel - all up a 1.25m football heartland population.

=D> =D>
Don't forget fox footy is exclusively AFL. Fox footy 2 shows nrl, cricket, and a bunch of other shows

Well said. I've also heard that limited foxtel packages that are often taken up by pubs and clubs etc don't have fox footy be default. What a success this channel is!

pussycat · Post by **pussycat** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:09 pm

Why was'nt full ratings given for the NRL on Friday night?

Xman · Post by **Xman** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:31 pm

pussycat wrote:
Why was'nt full ratings given for the NRL on Friday night?

The delayed game didn't make the top 20 so they're not easily available. Got a link for the ratings?

eelofwest · Post by **eelofwest** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:34 pm

Xman wrote:
eelofwest wrote:
Pay Tv Battle NRL vs AFL

AFL 9 Live games
LIVE: AFL CARLTON V COLLINGWOOD FOX FOOTY 329,000
LIVE: AFL GOLD COAST V ESSENDON FOX SPORTS 1 178,000
LIVE: AFL FREMANTLE V LIONS FOX FOOTY 170,000
LIVE: AFL RICHMOND V MELBOURNE FOX FOOTY 155,000
LIVE: AFL BULLDOGS V ST KILDA FOX FOOTY 127,000
LIVE: AFL PORT ADELAIDE V SYDNEY FOX SPORTS 1 118,000
LIVE: AFL NORTH MELBOURNE V GEELONG FOX FOOTY 227,000
LIVE: AFL GWS V WEST COAST FOX FOOTY 153,000
LIVE: AFL HAWTHORN V ADELAIDE FOX SPORTS 1 124,000

Total for 9 games = 1581,000 / 9 = 175,600

NRL 4 Live games 1 game played in Northern Territory not live

NRL NZ fox sports
13th Friday game NRL: 41,470 (9:45pm – 11:30pm)
14th Saturday NRL: 33,640 (7:35pm – 9:10pm)
15th Sunday NRL: 106,210

LIVE: NRL STORM V BULLDOGS FOX SPORTS 2 286,000
LIVE: NRL SEA EAGLES V TITANS FOX SPORTS 2 259,000
LIVE: NRL SHARKS V EELS FOX SPORTS 2 257,000
LIVE: NRL WARRIORS V RABBITOHS FOX SPORTS 2 179,000 + Nz Fox sports 106,210 = 285,210

Total for 4 games Live = 1087.210/ 4 = 271.802 Imagine 8 games of Fox next year.

NRL ROOSTERS V COWBOYS FOX SPORTS 2 97,000 Played in Northern Territory not live on Fox

http://www.throng.co.nz/

Again NRL smashing AFL on Fox, Damm Fox would be worried expecting a jump from the other states but it doesn’t look like it’s to eventuate.
Let’s wait till say round 12 and if these numbers don’t improve Foxtel is going to be shattered Just like Channel 10 were when they gave back the rights to Some AFL games last year.
So the AFL on foxtel got 1581k and the NRL got 1087k. Got it.

No wonder fox footy has is the number one foxtel channel again! =D>

NRL 4 live games 1087k average of 271.802
AFL 9 Live games 1581 average of 175.000

I know that if i were part of the networks inner sanctum i would be going with NRL especially next year when we have 8 games live on Fox. So 1087.00 + 271.800 * 4 extra games live = 2446.000 =D> =D>

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