The storm are streaks ahead of other teams in the NRL. They look like winning another minor premiership and getting into another GF, the 6th in 15yrs.
And what massive crowd turns out to watch this super team play at home on a beautiful night in Melbourne? 11k!
Seriously! What the!?!?!
How can a single city team that is so dominant and has had so much recent successful have such a poor following in a city of 4million people???
The "crowds" thread on LU has disintegrate into a huge fight with our old mate Parra defending this indefensible embarrassment. But there are plenty of RL fans who can see it for what it is, failed expansion. They rightly claim "what happens when the storm become an average to poor team?" how low will their crowds plummet if they get 11k as winners?
King-Eliagh: ...I believe [RL] is popular in all the other states and territories, bar tasmania.
The storm are streaks ahead of other teams in the NRL. They look like winning another minor premiership and getting into another GF, the 6th in 15yrs.
And what massive crowd turns out to watch this super team play at home on a beautiful night in Melbourne? 11k!
Seriously! What the!?!?!
How can a single city team that is so dominant and has had so much recent successful have such a poor following in a city of 4million people???
The "crowds" thread on LU has disintegrate into a huge fight with our old mate Parra defending this indefensible embarrassment. But there are plenty of RL fans who can see it for what it is, failed expansion. They rightly claim "what happens when the storm become an average to poor team?" how low will their crowds plummet if they get 11k as winners?
11,892 V Roosters with no VFL game next door
11,369 V Knights with a VFL game next door
pretty good result to be honest
neither side big drawers in Melbourne ... with corresponding 2011 games last year attracting
9,460 V Knights
9,843 V Roosters
so an extra 4,000 fans .. & an extra 4000 on the opening round game from last year as well has the Storm travelling along nicely
some big games to come .. several sellouts again at MRS in 2012
gee
I wonder how many sellouts there'll be for the VFL in Sydney in 2012
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
The storm are streaks ahead of other teams in the NRL. They look like winning another minor premiership and getting into another GF, the 6th in 15yrs.
And what massive crowd turns out to watch this super team play at home on a beautiful night in Melbourne? 11k!
Seriously! What the!?!?!
How can a single city team that is so dominant and has had so much recent successful have such a poor following in a city of 4million people???
The "crowds" thread on LU has disintegrate into a huge fight with our old mate Parra defending this indefensible embarrassment. But there are plenty of RL fans who can see it for what it is, failed expansion. They rightly claim "what happens when the storm become an average to poor team?" how low will their crowds plummet if they get 11k as winners?
11,892 V Roosters with no VFL game next door
11,369 V Knights with a VFL game next door
pretty good result to be honest
neither side big drawers in Melbourne ... with corresponding 2011 games last year attracting
9,460 V Knights
9,843 V Roosters
so an extra 4,000 fans .. & an extra 4000 on the opening round game from last year as well has the Storm travelling along nicely
some big games to come .. several sellouts again at MRS in 2012
gee
I wonder how many sellouts there'll be for the VFL in Sydney in 2012
What difference does an AFL match next door make?
You are surely not justifying such low crowds for a team that is dominating your league!?!?
Even half your LU mates are laughing at these pathetic results. RL is still struggling in Melbourne after 15 years of success. even A league looks successful in comparison.
When they finally drop off the top of the ladder they'll be lucky to draw 5k!
King-Eliagh: ...I believe [RL] is popular in all the other states and territories, bar tasmania.
The storm are streaks ahead of other teams in the NRL. They look like winning another minor premiership and getting into another GF, the 6th in 15yrs.
And what massive crowd turns out to watch this super team play at home on a beautiful night in Melbourne? 11k!
Seriously! What the!?!?!
How can a single city team that is so dominant and has had so much recent successful have such a poor following in a city of 4million people???
The "crowds" thread on LU has disintegrate into a huge fight with our old mate Parra defending this indefensible embarrassment. But there are plenty of RL fans who can see it for what it is, failed expansion. They rightly claim "what happens when the storm become an average to poor team?" how low will their crowds plummet if they get 11k as winners?
11,892 V Roosters with no VFL game next door
11,369 V Knights with a VFL game next door
pretty good result to be honest
neither side big drawers in Melbourne ... with corresponding 2011 games last year attracting
9,460 V Knights
9,843 V Roosters
so an extra 4,000 fans .. & an extra 4000 on the opening round game from last year as well has the Storm travelling along nicely
some big games to come .. several sellouts again at MRS in 2012
gee
I wonder how many sellouts there'll be for the VFL in Sydney in 2012
What difference does an AFL match next door make?
You are surely not justifying such low crowds for a team that is dominating your league!?!?
Even half your LU mates are laughing at these pathetic results. RL is still struggling in Melbourne after 15 years of success. even A league looks successful in comparison.
When they finally drop off the top of the ladder they'll be lucky to draw 5k!
you don't think some Storm fans would have been turned off at the prospect of battling a pack of mongs for seats on trams & trains to get to MRS
the VFL had predicted over 90,000 morons to attend the battle between Collinswart & harlethorn
of course this w@nk didn't occur with the crowd well well down on that schlong stroking figure
but hey it was on live on the box in Melbourne too
& smart RL fans in derpsville probably couldn't stand having to listen to the inate drivel of vicky kicky fans on the tram talking about Barney frankston ... & dale tomboy ( he isn't male is he ? ) on the way to the game.
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
11,369 V Knights with a VFL game next door
pretty good result to be honest
neither side big drawers in Melbourne ... with corresponding 2011 games last year attracting
9,460 V Knights
9,843 V Roosters
so an extra 4,000 fans .. & an extra 4000 on the opening round game from last year as well has the Storm travelling along nicely
some big games to come .. several sellouts again at MRS in 2012
gee
I wonder how many sellouts there'll be for the VFL in Sydney in 2012
What difference does an AFL match next door make?
You are surely not justifying such low crowds for a team that is dominating your league!?!?
Even half your LU mates are laughing at these pathetic results. RL is still struggling in Melbourne after 15 years of success. even A league looks successful in comparison.
When they finally drop off the top of the ladder they'll be lucky to draw 5k!
you don't think some Storm fans would have been turned off at the prospect of battling a pack of mongs for seats on trams & trains to get to MRS
the VFL had predicted over 90,000 morons to attend the battle between Collinswart & harlethorn
of course this w@nk didn't occur with the crowd well well down on that schlong stroking figure
but hey it was on live on the box in Melbourne too
& smart RL fans in derpsville probably couldn't stand having to listen to the inate drivel of vicky kicky fans on the tram talking about Barney frankston ... & dale tomboy ( he isn't male is he ? ) on the way to the game.
So storm fans stayed at home because they didn't want to battle the AFL crowds on the public transport?
COS, HERE'S ANOTHER ONE MATE ! this ones a beauty!
The people predicting a 90k crowd forgot one thing, it was Hawthorns home game, not Collingwoods. Collingwood got 83k last year for their home game v Hawthorn last year. The same game hawthorn v collingwood game last year didn't get near that many because hawthorn don't have the same following as collingwood.
Not that we should even be comparing the crowds last night!
King-Eliagh: ...I believe [RL] is popular in all the other states and territories, bar tasmania.
The people predicting a 90k crowd forgot one thing, it was Hawthorns home game, not Collingwoods. Collingwood got 83k last year for their home game v Hawthorn last year
ahhhh
they were saying this 2 days ago .. how would they NOT know whos home game it was ?
& they were saying infact ova 190K would attend the 2 games on Thurs & Fri
hmm... just 33K short of that
willy back in the pants for the VFL ...
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
The storm are streaks ahead of other teams in the NRL. They look like winning another minor premiership and getting into another GF, the 6th in 15yrs.
And what massive crowd turns out to watch this super team play at home on a beautiful night in Melbourne? 11k!
Seriously! What the!?!?!
How can a single city team that is so dominant and has had so much recent successful have such a poor following in a city of 4million people???
The "crowds" thread on LU has disintegrate into a huge fight with our old mate Parra defending this indefensible embarrassment. But there are plenty of RL fans who can see it for what it is, failed expansion. They rightly claim "what happens when the storm become an average to poor team?" how low will their crowds plummet if they get 11k as winners?
Hahaha, ParraEelsNRL is a scream. Fancy trying to defend 11k. As others and I've always said, imagine what the Storm's crowds would be like if they were bottom of the table not top. Scary thought isn't it.
You are surely not justifying such low crowds for a team that is dominating your league!?!?
Even half your LU mates are laughing at these pathetic results. RL is still struggling in Melbourne after 15 years of success. even A league looks successful in comparison.
When they finally drop off the top of the ladder they'll be lucky to draw 5k!
you don't think some Storm fans would have been turned off at the prospect of battling a pack of mongs for seats on trams & trains to get to MRS
the VFL had predicted over 90,000 morons to attend the battle between Collinswart & harlethorn
of course this w@nk didn't occur with the crowd well well down on that schlong stroking figure
but hey it was on live on the box in Melbourne too
& smart RL fans in derpsville probably couldn't stand having to listen to the inate drivel of vicky kicky fans on the tram talking about Barney frankston ... & dale tomboy ( he isn't male is he ? ) on the way to the game.
So storm fans stayed at home because they didn't want to battle the AFL crowds on the public transport?
COS, HERE'S ANOTHER ONE MATE ! this ones a beauty!
Official List of Excuses for Low RL Crowds (updated) updated thanks to dave.
01 .SL stuffed us up completely and we haven't recovered .
. The mergers put people off , merged teams don't represent their region , merged teams are too powerful .
. Dropping South Sydney put people off and put more off by coming back and will lose the rest by relocating or dying.
. Dropping the expansion teams kill any chance of becoming national .
. Dropping the other teams didn't matter because they weren't that popular anyway .
02 .We play to our "heartlands" .............. our heartlands are in the bush,
. These people don't get the chance to go to many games as ch9 chop and change times and generally play god.
. Ch 9 and Foxtel shedule NRL games on short notice unlike the AFL that lock the shedule all games in October
. Our heartlands seem to be getting smaller all the time .
. We're stuck in suburban times .
03. Sydney people are doing it tough and just can't afford to go -
. Mortage prices , fuel prices , public transport prices , battery prices for their remote control .
. $30 general entry, I was drinking UDL's at $9 per can
04 . It's a television game -
. And the game was on Fox or FTA so the fans were at home .
. Ratings are much more important than viewers .
. You have to count the regional and city figures even though they overlap .
. You have to count New Zealand figures even though it's not officially a state of Australia yet .
. The ratings were down so I guess a lot of people went out to clubs and pubs to watch it .
. There was a lot of sport on TV. ........golf , tennis , lawn bowls , motorsports , bowling , darts , WWWWE
. There were good shows on TV ... Bloke's World, Iron Chef, Bert's big brother idol lost on celebrity dancing MKR survivor.
. Couch potatoes count as real interested viewers .
. The report is not valid because it only shows interest not real support like ratings where the person gets off his butt and
. ............ sorry where the person changes the channel on the remote .
05.The game is popular but the team isn't
. Either that popular crowd drawing team is down OR that unpopular drawing team is dominating .
. It was an away game for that popular crowd drawing team so they couldn't use their memberships .
. We were missing SSO reps, captains,legends, Kangaroos, gifted players, Father Christmas and Mother Teresa (and crowds apparently) .
06 .It's the Public transport system.
. Sydney public transport is unpopular or it's too crowded because it's popular .
. You cannot expect Sydney people to go to the SFS just because people go to see the Swans at the SCG nextdoor.
, Melbourne public transport system is just too crowded with AFL fans.
07. It's the weather.
. Too hot, too cold, too wet]or perfect for doing something else .
. Perfect for going to a Taylor Swift concert next door
. You cannot expect people to go in weather like that even though there's room in the stadia because nobody goes .
08 It's the Time or Day of the Week .
. It was unsuitable to have a game on at the afternoon, twilight or night time or anytime really .
. It was unsuitable to have a game on Monday ,Friday , Saturday, Sunday or mid week .
09. It's the media
. Too little media , the unfair media ,the negative RL media , too much AFL media
. Our supporters can't read the media (nice pictures though)
. It's war ,according to the Telegraph ,an invasion ,even though football was here before RL ..
10. It's the lack of development by the NRL ,ARL , NSWRL and BRL.... and
. we're facing development from AFL , FFA and Netball .
. NZRL is sponging off Australia and Australia is raping the NZRL
. S14 RU is stealing all our players
. AFL is stealing our players
. FFA will be stealing our players as soon as they expand .
11. It's the lack of blockbusters .
. Sheduled against us was an another big game of .....RU , AFL, AL , NBL , ANL , WNBL.......
. We sheduled a game against another big game of .....RU , AFL, AL , NBL , ANL , WNBL......
. The upcoming Olympics (summer or winter) is grabbing everybody's attention
. The recent WC (FIFA, RU, Hockey, Basketball, Baseball, Cricket, Gridiron) is grabbing everybody's attention
. The recent RL WC is not grabbing everybody's attention - blame the AFL for one Australia Vs Ireland IR test
. Even the AFL International Cup is grabbing attention.
12. The government won't finance new stadiums , but when they do the crowds will be enormous.
. As long as all people are able sit close to the sidelines
. As long as the ends aren't too far from the action
. Now that our stadiums are built they are too big and look empty deterring more people
. Homebush & SFS - small crowds are a visual embarrassment
. Lang Park - now built , no excuses..
. Docklands - state of the art boutique stadium not used as too costly (low crowds)
. Melbourne Rectangular Stadium - Now RL is behind RU as well as AL and AFL.
. Perth NIB - now upgraded , nrl's wannabe team crowd about 1710 and going down .
. Gosford - new stadium , new savior for Sydney clubs except Manly who made a premiership year loss.
. Canberra ,Cronulla, Brookvale, Kogarah, Paramatta, Campbelltown, Penrith, Wollongong upgrades for no effect.
. Newcastle upgrade on the way when the club is looking at downsizing .
13. When they gonna have double headers , triple headers ...we can then claim the one crowd for each game !
14 . We don't have -
. A centrally located "home of football" like the AFL because we chose to waste money at the SFS next to the Swans..
. A centre of sporting excellence like the GWS willl have at Blacktown.
. The AFL's draft , management , development , clout , and aggressive approach to expansion ..
. $1.2 billion in TV rights.
. A decent game , (but that's the least of our worries)
, People wanting to play our game with more wanting to play AFL than RL in NSW in the last 5 years .
15. We do have
. Financially stricken rl clubs (all bar one) awaiting handouts.
. Financially stricken rl clubs unable to pay their CEO.
. Financially stricken rl clubs unable to attract sponsors or hold the one's they had due to misbehaviour.
. Financially stricken leagues clubs unable to support NRL clubs ,
. A new pokie tax that is gonna kill off the leagues clubs .
. A geographically centred stadium at Homebush suited to AFL blockbusters and the GWS .
. A new stadium built at Blacktown for AFL , because the NRL wasn't interested .
. A new stadium built at Homebush for AFL , because the NRL wasn't interested .
. Players wanting to leave their NRL contracts to play AFL .
16. When looking at NRL crowd averages
. You cannot look at Sydney in isolation - because they are pathetically low .
. You cannot look at Melbourne because they have no history there and because they are pathetically low .
. You cannot look at this point in time because historically crowds dip this time of year .
. You cannot look at crowds at the ground because the crowd looked and felt a lot bigger than the official low figure .
. You cannot look at the crowd on TV because the crowd looked and felt a lot smaller than the official low figure .
. You can look at past pathetically low crowd figures because that shows the present in a good light .
. You overlook that 25% of all rounds affected by SOO with the best 34 players either unavailable or backing up after SOO.
. You cannot look at NRL crowds because the focus is on SOO .
. You cannot look at NRL crowds because they are inflated because "they all do it" (just ask the Storm)
. You cannot look at NRL crowds because clubs are paid $100k to play to empty stadiums .
. You cannot look at NRL crowds because they contain freebies from passport holding Pacific Islanders.
. You cannot look at NRL crowds because they contain freebies from Moms , nans , nurses and carers .
. You cannot look at NRL crowds because they contain freebies for Warriors gear, doing a haka or singing an anthem.
. You cannot look at NRL crowds because they include players, officials, coaching, medical, fitness, trainers, boot studders, waterboys, catering, security, sales staff, turnstile staff, magazine sellers, cheergirls and people wandering into the ground lost .(you know most of the crowd )..
. You cannot look at NRL crowds because more people turned up to see Russel Crowe than South Sydney .
17. You cannot look at SOO crowds
. Because they contain a lot of freebies .
. Tickets still are expensive...spending $100 in Sydney to watch footie is way too much
. Spending $50 for the nose bleed section is way too much
. It is a big week in sport for Sydney so going to the game isn't part of it.
. The game is just too good to watch on TV
, Because the same same two teams play each other, then each other, then each other, every year after year after year.
18. Canberra is under performing
. Because now it supports two clubs .
. Both those clubs cannot find a sponsor.
. The sponsors have all gone to the new AFL club GWS.
. It's all a bluff because Canberra are renegotiating their stadium deal.
19. It's a bluff because "the AFL want some publicity".
20. We cannot look at specific crowd attendances because "8588 is a really inmpressive figure".
21. It's basically because rl is dying - but that is another list !!!
