wonderfully unpredictable & even

[Xman]

no its brainwashed

your fans are amongst the dopiest in World Sport
cop anything & everything said ...& done ... believe anything & everything said to them ...

scrub that

they aren't amongst the dopiest
they are the dopiest

Nope, we love our game and our teams. We are committed financially as well, which is why our teams are so wealthy.

And don't try this: its Victorian bs! Teams in adelaide and Perth are equally well supported, plus they still follow their own leagues in decent numbers.

you are fed BS ... 24/7 & you lap it up
you question nothing
you accept everything

a sign of little to no intelligence
that is all

Ditto!

You have no idea about how a real sport is supported by fans who are passionate! Have you even been outside NSW or ACT? Ever been to Perth to see how ARs just dominates that state? It's all they talk about. They don't follow the AFL blindly. They follow ARs. Same as Tasmania. Same as SA.

Go to big footy and see the criticism of AFL policy. Their just as critical as RL fans. The difference is they have a great sport which is managed by a professional team and is in the best Shape of its long history. So much so they can afford to pour massive resources into expansion, most of which has been factored in.

[King-Eliagh]

Nope, we love our game and our teams. We are committed financially as well, which is why our teams are so wealthy.

And don't try this: its Victorian bs! Teams in adelaide and Perth are equally well supported, plus they still follow their own leagues in decent numbers.

you are fed BS ... 24/7 & you lap it up
you question nothing
you accept everything

a sign of little to no intelligence
that is all

Ditto!

You have no idea about how a real sport is supported by fans who are passionate! Have you even been outside NSW or ACT? Ever been to Perth to see how ARs just dominates that state? It's all they talk about. They don't follow the AFL blindly. They follow ARs. Same as Tasmania. Same as SA.

Go to big footy and see the criticism of AFL policy. Their just as critical as RL fans. The difference is they have a great sport which is managed by a professional team and is in the best Shape of its long history. So much so they can afford to pour massive resources into expansion, most of which has been factored in.

Khunt, another 3 million to make the sport look like a joke and deprive quality youngsters a deserved spot Reeeaaall professional

[Raiderdave]

you are fed BS ... 24/7 & you lap it up
you question nothing
you accept everything

a sign of little to no intelligence
that is all

Ditto!

You have no idea about how a real sport is supported by fans who are passionate! Have you even been outside NSW or ACT? Ever been to Perth to see how ARs just dominates that state? It's all they talk about. They don't follow the AFL blindly. They follow ARs. Same as Tasmania. Same as SA.

Go to big footy and see the criticism of AFL policy. Their just as critical as RL fans. The difference is they have a great sport which is managed by a professional team and is in the best Shape of its long history. So much so they can afford to pour massive resources into expansion, most of which has been factored in.

Khunt, another 3 million to make the sport look like a joke and deprive quality youngsters a deserved spot Reeeaaall professional

E
the VFL would sell their traditional clubs & fans down the river
just for a bit of success outside of their tiny kingdom ... such is their rampant ego

they believe they have them no matter what the VFL does
they're ours
they're too stupid to see whats really going on ...
our comps cr@p
phhtttt ... they'll keep watching
our comps uneven
phhtttt ... they'll keep watching
all the talents being directed to 2 clubs while other clubs continue to struggle
phhtttt .too bad .. they'll keep watching
the draw is rigged so Melb's big clubs get it easy
phhtttt .too bad .. they'll keep watching
why are we going where no one wants us or cares about us
pphhtt... we'll do what we f.ucking well like



not a question asked
not a question answered

dumbest sports fans on the planet .... seriously they're mongs

[Xman]

AFL fans are prepared to accept change to allow the code to expand. If that means allowing new teams to dominate the draft over a few years, and steal key players, so be it. It's not like this is a new concept. Exactly the same thing happened when the port power, Fremantle and brisbane bears started. It's part of expansion and people see the benefit in the long run.

The recruitment of KHunt and falou are more about appealing to a particular ethnic group than appealing to RL fans. The AFL hope that these players will have some success and show kids from these countries that they may be well suited physically to rugby but ARs is also a viable choice of sport.

[Xman]

How is the draw rigged to make it easy for Melbourne clubs exactly?

[Xman]

Buzz: Wasn't it a marketing ploy more than buying footy talent?

Andrew: It was both. With Karmichael we were confident he could play. He was identified as a junior. His marketability has exceeded our expectations. It's fantastic what he's done in the community. Israel was more of a risk because he hasn't played but, because of his superb athleticism, he's getting better and better every day. He's also been fantastic in helping us promote the game. But it doesn't mean we are going after more NRL players. We're in the market for talented athletes from our traditional pathways. We get some from other sports, like those who chose us over cricket or basketball. We've got 850 jobs to fill. We get them from overseas. We've got a player from Sudan and we've got about seven or eight Irish lads. We're certainly not out there sourcing more NRL players.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6291160830

[Raiderdave]

AFL fans are prepared to accept change to allow the code to expand. If that means allowing new teams to dominate the draft over a few years, and steal key players, so be it. It's not like this is a new concept. Exactly the same thing happened when the port power, Fremantle and brisbane bears started. It's part of expansion and people see the benefit in the long run.

The recruitment of KHunt and falou are more about appealing to a particular ethnic group than appealing to RL fans. The AFL hope that these players will have some success and show kids from these countries that they may be well suited physically to rugby but ARs is also a viable choice of sport.

VFL fans are dumb

that is all

[Xman]

AFL fans are prepared to accept change to allow the code to expand. If that means allowing new teams to dominate the draft over a few years, and steal key players, so be it. It's not like this is a new concept. Exactly the same thing happened when the port power, Fremantle and brisbane bears started. It's part of expansion and people see the benefit in the long run.

The recruitment of KHunt and falou are more about appealing to a particular ethnic group than appealing to RL fans. The AFL hope that these players will have some success and show kids from these countries that they may be well suited physically to rugby but ARs is also a viable choice of sport.

VFL fans are dumb

that is all

Haha,

I'd say it shows they're smart. They understand that expansion is for the benefit of the game overall and are prepared to accept short term disruption for long term gain.

That's smart! =D> =D>

[Raiderdave]

AFL fans are prepared to accept change to allow the code to expand. If that means allowing new teams to dominate the draft over a few years, and steal key players, so be it. It's not like this is a new concept. Exactly the same thing happened when the port power, Fremantle and brisbane bears started. It's part of expansion and people see the benefit in the long run.

The recruitment of KHunt and falou are more about appealing to a particular ethnic group than appealing to RL fans. The AFL hope that these players will have some success and show kids from these countries that they may be well suited physically to rugby but ARs is also a viable choice of sport.

VFL fans are dumb

that is all

Haha,

I'd say it shows they're smart. They understand that expansion is for the benefit of the game overall and are prepared to accept short term disruption for long term gain.

That's smart! =D> =D>

yes ... lets accept that the new clubs get to take our talent off us ... so we continue to flounder near the bottom of the table
by them being able to spend more then us

its manipulation of the cap
its manipulation of the talent pool

what moron accepts that
why do the clubs pay the penalty for the VFL's failure with expansion ...
after 30 years of trying in NSW & QLD ... & obviously failing .. I mean why else do these new teams need SSSoooooo much help

why do the clubs have to accept being held down the bottom .. so a couple of very .. very average teams get to exist with them down there
the clubs responsibility is to their fans

when will some president have the b@lls to say enough of this Sh.it
F expansion
we've failed ....

our members deserve better then the C grade team we are putting on the field ... in this F grade comp
thats what expansion has done to us

but.. VFL clubs .. & their dopey fans .... are oblivious to reality

[Xman]

It's a model that has been followed for the last 30 years and has been accepted as a necessary evil.

Expansion teams need to be given significant assistance in their early years. My team has lost a number of stars to expansion clubs over the years including the swans, bears, power and Fremantle. Yet the comp is better for these teams being in existence so I appreciate the sacrifice for the greater good. The vast majority of AFL fans think this way. =D>

So far the expansion teams are performing better than many RL teams in RL heartland. The AFL are good at expansion. The NRL is good at nothing.

[King-Eliagh]

Yes Raider, noone enjoys manipulation of the salary cap and player pool. Its messy and the game of marngrook is being affected as a result. Last season was fairly unenjoyable viewing in the AFL comp and I believe this was a direct result of the things you're saying. Xman is oblivious to the game and only understands business, albeit poorly. The product is marngrook, that's what's being forgotten in the money hungry foolish AFL expansion drive. They even threw a few of their millions into china! Big returns coming their way in that market Again i'll say it, imagine if some unheard of sport called chinese rules came over to this country

[Xman]

AFL Queensland has grown over the past decade to a full time staff of 100, operates offices in ten regional centres from Cape York to Northern NSW and has achieved over 400 percent growth in participation with over 133,000 registered participants in 2011.

http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/artic ... -AFL-boss/

This is how to expand. Invest money in grass roots comps. Improve participation rates. Place an expansion team in the area. Fund that team until they are viable. Assist them with their playing list until they are competitive.

Meanwhile the NRL.......

[King-Eliagh]

Buzz: Wasn't it a marketing ploy more than buying footy talent?

Andrew: It was both. With Karmichael we were confident he could play. He was identified as a junior. His marketability has exceeded our expectations. It's fantastic what he's done in the community. Israel was more of a risk because he hasn't played but, because of his superb athleticism, he's getting better and better every day. He's also been fantastic in helping us promote the game. But it doesn't mean we are going after more NRL players. We're in the market for talented athletes from our traditional pathways. We get some from other sports, like those who chose us over cricket or basketball. We've got 850 jobs to fill. We get them from overseas. We've got a player from Sudan and we've got about seven or eight Irish lads. We're certainly not out there sourcing more NRL players.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6291160830

Hmmm, Karmichael cant play, he's undeniably proven that in his first season. He likes the money though. Israel perhaps can play. So what does this say about those bosses down at AFL HQ? Laughing stock, thats what it says.

And I'd like to see proof/outcomes relating to the millions karmichael receives for taking the spot of a bloke who's played the game since 5 yrs old and is far better qualified. That is, apart from a few school/"community" trips where Khunt shows a few kicks and takes a few uncontested marks. I could do that His name is no longer of interest amongst school kids of all ethnic groups who follow league. He's been out for years so this "community" work is basically a waste of time. Clever blokes down there at AFL HQ

[Xman]

Buzz: Wasn't it a marketing ploy more than buying footy talent?

Andrew: It was both. With Karmichael we were confident he could play. He was identified as a junior. His marketability has exceeded our expectations. It's fantastic what he's done in the community. Israel was more of a risk because he hasn't played but, because of his superb athleticism, he's getting better and better every day. He's also been fantastic in helping us promote the game. But it doesn't mean we are going after more NRL players. We're in the market for talented athletes from our traditional pathways. We get some from other sports, like those who chose us over cricket or basketball. We've got 850 jobs to fill. We get them from overseas. We've got a player from Sudan and we've got about seven or eight Irish lads. We're certainly not out there sourcing more NRL players.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6291160830

Hmmm, Karmichael cant play, he's undeniably proven that in his first season. He likes the money though. Israel perhaps can play. So what does this say about those bosses down at AFL HQ? Laughing stock, thats what it says.

And I'd like to see proof/outcomes relating to the millions karmichael receives for taking the spot of a bloke who's played the game since 5 yrs old and is far better qualified. That is, apart from a few school/"community" trips where Khunt shows a few kicks and takes a few uncontested marks. I could do that His name is no longer of interest amongst school kids of all ethnic groups who follow league. He's been out for years so this "community" work is basically a waste of time. Clever blokes down there at AFL HQ

He was ordinary last year. So far this year he's looked good in the preseason game playing in the midfield. He looks far fitter now. He just wasn't fit enough last year and doesn't have the speed or size to play in defense or attack.

[Xman]

Buzz: Wasn't it a marketing ploy more than buying footy talent?

Andrew: It was both. With Karmichael we were confident he could play. He was identified as a junior. His marketability has exceeded our expectations. It's fantastic what he's done in the community. Israel was more of a risk because he hasn't played but, because of his superb athleticism, he's getting better and better every day. He's also been fantastic in helping us promote the game. But it doesn't mean we are going after more NRL players. We're in the market for talented athletes from our traditional pathways. We get some from other sports, like those who chose us over cricket or basketball. We've got 850 jobs to fill. We get them from overseas. We've got a player from Sudan and we've got about seven or eight Irish lads. We're certainly not out there sourcing more NRL players.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6291160830

Hmmm, Karmichael cant play, he's undeniably proven that in his first season. He likes the money though. Israel perhaps can play. So what does this say about those bosses down at AFL HQ? Laughing stock, thats what it says.

And I'd like to see proof/outcomes relating to the millions karmichael receives for taking the spot of a bloke who's played the game since 5 yrs old and is far better qualified. That is, apart from a few school/"community" trips where Khunt shows a few kicks and takes a few uncontested marks. I could do that His name is no longer of interest amongst school kids of all ethnic groups who follow league. He's been out for years so this "community" work is basically a waste of time. Clever blokes down there at AFL HQ

Let's see, the suns made a profit in their first year and are well ahead of expectations financially. There's some proof you douche.

Why would they renew the marketing component of his contract if he wasn't value for money?