AFL Gains Ground on the Northern Beaches of Sydney

[ParraEelsNRL]

Or the fatc RL already smashes AFL while being shown into 2 states only and having less FTA games huh?

[Topper]

Don't worry about next year's ratings or the fact you've lost ground on the Northern beaches of Sydney.

They should, cos789. Manly is the Collingwood of the NRL in terms of the most hated team by opposition clubs. On field hatred is healthy and if that is permanently curbed a major problem exists for RL on the Northern Beaches. Combine that with the threat in the western suburbs that already exists......

[Xman]

Or the fatc RL already smashes AFL while being shown into 2 states only and having less FTA games huh?

But they still have a longer season, and more exclusive games, and live games, and games averaged over 2 hours only, and a heartland in only two states which are in the same time zone, and only if they include regional figures which are openly inaccurate, and feel the need to include SOO and rep games.........

The NRL lose the 5city comparison easily. They need to add dodgy regional figures to win anything, then count them up at the end of the year and claim a minor victory.

[Xman]

So raider Dave, again, if the NRL is the biggest drawing game in the land why doesnt it win the GF ratings, especially when shown in the best time slot of the week?

And before you say "our GF is against decent opposition". Networks don't show their best shows in the middle of the day for a reason! They show them when they expect the games to be seen by the most people, in the EVENING. Sunday night is the best evening because people are home and not at work.

The rest of your post is just shite. Sure, your FN game wins some weeks, and all when you include fudged regionals. But you conveniently ignore your 9.30 game which loses with deplorable ratings every week. It is no wonder your two targeted and live FN match beats an afls single game at 8.30 on 1 - 3 hr delay. Why would the AFL possibly win that? If the NRL is such a ratings juggernaut why does it fail so dismally at 9.30 when the AFL game is only starting the second quarter?

The AFL wins Staurday and Sunday games easily.

the NRL wins payTV games for obvious reasons. northern states have higher subscriptions and NRL games are rarely shown against another NRL game. One of the only exclusive foxtel games last year was the practice game between the giants and swans. It rated one of the highest payTV sport shows of the year. Imagine next year when payTV get some of the better matches and they are not shown at the same time as FTA!

All in all the NRL claims a minor win of 10% by stacking laughable regionals, a longer season, more exclusive matches, and live targeted broadcasts! You're in trouble next year that's for sure.

you start with why don't we win the GF ratings
I explained we do ... quite regularly

a lamer more pathetic excuse for the biggest game a sport can put on ... not rating as well as it could ... because its on the wrong day .. at the wrong time
I have not heard
its borderline embarrasing as excuses go

a one on one ratings battle between the codes took place ... the finals in our respective codes
no targeting of markets
no games being shown at the same time ... supposedly taking veiwers away from any of games
no so called " favourable " time slots .. with the games on pretty much at the same time
outside of the GF's ( & origin for RL)
the 8 biggest games of the year ... for the AFL .. the biggest games that code has

what did we get in our 16 Finals outside the GF's
take a gander

1. NRL Storm V Warriors (1,807,000)
2. NRL Manly V Broncos (1,668,000)
3. NRL Dragons V Wests Tigers (1,607,000)
4. AFL Colling V Hawthorn (1,571,000)
5. NRL Broncos V Dragons (1,548,000)
6. NRL Tigers V Warriors (1,382,000)
7 NRL Broncos V Warriors (1,368,000)
8 AFL Hawth V Geelong (1,317,000)
9 AFL Hawth V Sydney (1,310,000)
10 AFL Geelong V West C (1,269,000)
11 NRL Melb V Newc (1,236,000)
12 AFL Carlt V West C (1,217,000)
13 NRL Manly V Cowboys (1,201,000)
14 AFL Carlt V Ess (1,126,000)
15 AFL Coll V West C (1,046,000)
16 AFL St Kilda V Syd (1,045,000

& as I said
the AFL final series involving Collinswart ... Essenwood ... Carlstcray ... & whorethorn

the NRL's missing some of its biggest rating clubs
but you lot got pumped

pumped good
a clear indicator of whos the big dog in Aussie sport
& its not the mob that wear singlets ...

please ... keep looking
you might find a valid point or position .. somewhere

All these regional figures do is show how inept they are!!

Look at the regional count for the storm v warriors game. We are expected to believe that almost 700k watched that final from a regional heartland of about 5million people. This is a viewing rate of 14%.

Yet the stk v swans game only registered Less than 90k from AFL heartland regionals of 2.5 million. That's a viewing rate of only 3.6%, far far lower than the city viewing rate. FFS! Even Tasmania on their own regularly register 70-90k for finals! what about the other 2 million regional viewers? Myth busted!

Collingwood v WC only registered 100k regional figures! A viewing rate of only 5% From over 2 million people in Regional AFL states? Yet the AFL city populations of 7 million had a viewing rate of nearly 3 times that! Yet, as already mention, Tasmania alone get nearly 100k for finals.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that regional NSW and QLD watch RL at 3 times the rate (not amount) compared to regional VIC, SA, WA and TAS watching AFL?

The obvious conclusion which everyone can see is that the regional countings are extremely inaccurate and completely ignore major AFL regional areas, and likely over count QLD and NSW regions.

Sorry champ, don't bring those BS figures in here and expect us to believe them. They are total Rubbish. If they were even in the ball park they may be believable but less than 90k watching a final from 2.5million people is just BS!

[Raiderdave]

So raider Dave, again, if the NRL is the biggest drawing game in the land why doesnt it win the GF ratings, especially when shown in the best time slot of the week?

And before you say "our GF is against decent opposition". Networks don't show their best shows in the middle of the day for a reason! They show them when they expect the games to be seen by the most people, in the EVENING. Sunday night is the best evening because people are home and not at work.

The rest of your post is just shite. Sure, your FN game wins some weeks, and all when you include fudged regionals. But you conveniently ignore your 9.30 game which loses with deplorable ratings every week. It is no wonder your two targeted and live FN match beats an afls single game at 8.30 on 1 - 3 hr delay. Why would the AFL possibly win that? If the NRL is such a ratings juggernaut why does it fail so dismally at 9.30 when the AFL game is only starting the second quarter?

The AFL wins Staurday and Sunday games easily.

the NRL wins payTV games for obvious reasons. northern states have higher subscriptions and NRL games are rarely shown against another NRL game. One of the only exclusive foxtel games last year was the practice game between the giants and swans. It rated one of the highest payTV sport shows of the year. Imagine next year when payTV get some of the better matches and they are not shown at the same time as FTA!

All in all the NRL claims a minor win of 10% by stacking laughable regionals, a longer season, more exclusive matches, and live targeted broadcasts! You're in trouble next year that's for sure.

you start with why don't we win the GF ratings
I explained we do ... quite regularly

a lamer more pathetic excuse for the biggest game a sport can put on ... not rating as well as it could ... because its on the wrong day .. at the wrong time
I have not heard
its borderline embarrasing as excuses go

a one on one ratings battle between the codes took place ... the finals in our respective codes
no targeting of markets
no games being shown at the same time ... supposedly taking veiwers away from any of games
no so called " favourable " time slots .. with the games on pretty much at the same time
outside of the GF's ( & origin for RL)
the 8 biggest games of the year ... for the AFL .. the biggest games that code has

what did we get in our 16 Finals outside the GF's
take a gander

1. NRL Storm V Warriors (1,807,000)
2. NRL Manly V Broncos (1,668,000)
3. NRL Dragons V Wests Tigers (1,607,000)
4. AFL Colling V Hawthorn (1,571,000)
5. NRL Broncos V Dragons (1,548,000)
6. NRL Tigers V Warriors (1,382,000)
7 NRL Broncos V Warriors (1,368,000)
8 AFL Hawth V Geelong (1,317,000)
9 AFL Hawth V Sydney (1,310,000)
10 AFL Geelong V West C (1,269,000)
11 NRL Melb V Newc (1,236,000)
12 AFL Carlt V West C (1,217,000)
13 NRL Manly V Cowboys (1,201,000)
14 AFL Carlt V Ess (1,126,000)
15 AFL Coll V West C (1,046,000)
16 AFL St Kilda V Syd (1,045,000

& as I said
the AFL final series involving Collinswart ... Essenwood ... Carlstcray ... & whorethorn

the NRL's missing some of its biggest rating clubs
but you lot got pumped

pumped good
a clear indicator of whos the big dog in Aussie sport
& its not the mob that wear singlets ...

please ... keep looking
you might find a valid point or position .. somewhere

All these regional figures do is show how inept they are!!

Look at the regional count for the storm v warriors game. We are expected to believe that almost 700k watched that final from a regional heartland of about 5million people. This is a viewing rate of 14%.

Yet the stk v swans game only registered Less than 90k from AFL heartland regionals of 2.5 million. That's a viewing rate of only 3.6%, far far lower than the city viewing rate. FFS! Even Tasmania on their own regularly register 70-90k for finals! what about the other 2 million regional viewers? Myth busted!

Collingwood v WC only registered 100k regional figures! A viewing rate of only 5% From over 2 million people in Regional AFL states? Yet the AFL city populations of 7 million had a viewing rate of nearly 3 times that! Yet, as already mention, Tasmania alone get nearly 100k for finals.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that regional NSW and QLD watch RL at 3 times the rate (not amount) compared to regional VIC, SA, WA and TAS watching AFL?

The obvious conclusion which everyone can see is that the regional countings are extremely inaccurate and completely ignore major AFL regional areas, and likely over count QLD and NSW regions.

Sorry champ, don't bring those BS figures in here and expect us to believe them. They are total Rubbish. If they were even in the ball park they may be believable but less than 90k watching a final from 2.5million people is just BS!

LOL...
ranting ... feet stamping ... a few of these as well
its F'ing hilarious

the figures are accurate .... just suck it up princess
stop all the churning inside & embrace the truth ..... your funny little code , a sporting oddity at best is when exposed in the clear light of day

not as popular as League

[Xman]

So raider, please explain how Tasmania alone rate at 50k for home and away games, and up to 100k for finals from a population of 500k, yet many of the finals you showed have AFL regional audiences of 100k or less form 2.5million people?

Take your time. I look forward to your "interesting" theories.

Until you give a logical explanation for this your regional figures are confirmed as absolute BS like we already knew they were.

[Xman]

As for the "not as popular as league" comment. Have you forgotten how the AFL gets over double the crowds, double the memberships, double the revenue and double the media interest?

The TV ratings are the obvious anomaly and are clearly measure with the least accuracy because they are samples of patchy regions only.

So, popular?

Nice one LOL

[Raiderdave]

So raider, please explain how Tasmania alone rate at 50k for home and away games, and up to 100k for finals from a population of 500k, yet many of the finals you showed have AFL regional audiences of 100k or less form 2.5million people?

Take your time. I look forward to your "interesting" theories.

Until you give a logical explanation for this your regional figures are confirmed as absolute BS like we already knew they were.

ah..... 2.5 Million



wombat ... check the coverage maps from oztam
ova half of the regional population of WA & SA are included in the metro ratings for Perth & Adelaide
hell.... even Melbourne has a catchment of ova 4.5 Million .. it stretches all the way down past & including Geelong

it would struggle to be 1.25 Million
nice try .. but another fail

[Xman]

So raider, please explain how Tasmania alone rate at 50k for home and away games, and up to 100k for finals from a population of 500k, yet many of the finals you showed have AFL regional audiences of 100k or less form 2.5million people?

Take your time. I look forward to your "interesting" theories.

Until you give a logical explanation for this your regional figures are confirmed as absolute BS like we already knew they were.

ah..... 2.5 Million



wombat ... check the coverage maps from oztam
ova half of the regional population of WA & SA are included in the metro ratings for Perth & Adelaide
hell.... even Melbourne has a catchment of ova 4.5 Million .. it stretches all the way down past & including Geelong

it would struggle to be 1.25 Million
nice try .. but another fail

Hmm cool story bro.

Tasmania are 500k. There are 1.6 million in regional Victoria so that's another 1.1m outside the oztam. The entire WA and SA are NOT included in those figures. NT is not covered either.

Your maths = fail

So, still no theory as to why an AFL final only got 90k regional ratings when that's essentially the figure for Tasmania alone, which is a quarter or less of the AFL heartland regional population?

Thought not.

Take your regional ratings back to LU. they're the only fools who believe them.

[Raiderdave]

So raider, please explain how Tasmania alone rate at 50k for home and away games, and up to 100k for finals from a population of 500k, yet many of the finals you showed have AFL regional audiences of 100k or less form 2.5million people?

Take your time. I look forward to your "interesting" theories.

Until you give a logical explanation for this your regional figures are confirmed as absolute BS like we already knew they were.

ah..... 2.5 Million



wombat ... check the coverage maps from oztam
ova half of the regional population of WA & SA are included in the metro ratings for Perth & Adelaide
hell.... even Melbourne has a catchment of ova 4.5 Million .. it stretches all the way down past & including Geelong

it would struggle to be 1.25 Million
nice try .. but another fail

Hmm cool story bro.

Tasmania are 500k. There are 1.6 million in regional Victoria so that's another 1.1m outside the oztam. The entire WA and SA are NOT included in those figures. NT is not covered either.

Your maths = fail

So, still no theory as to why an AFL final only got 90k regional ratings when that's essentially the figure for Tasmania alone, which is a quarter or less of the AFL heartland regional population?

Thought not.

Take your regional ratings back to LU. they're the only fools who believe them.

reading is not your strong point is it
almost 60% of regional WA & SA is included , in the metro ( let go of your willy for a sec & look at the maps ) .... leaving .. well not much

tassie's figures are not 90K for a final ( thats up near GF ratings ) .... most finals I saw for tassie on regionaltam are around 60K
they aren't included in these figures .... but please feel free to add the 60K

so the 90K while being on the low side , remember ratings were down everywhere , the AFL was awfully lop sided & uninteresting in 2011.... is about right for a population catchment of between 1.25 Million & 1.5 Million thats left
again
embrace the truth .... it will free you from your torment

[Xman]

ah..... 2.5 Million



wombat ... check the coverage maps from oztam
ova half of the regional population of WA & SA are included in the metro ratings for Perth & Adelaide
hell.... even Melbourne has a catchment of ova 4.5 Million .. it stretches all the way down past & including Geelong

it would struggle to be 1.25 Million
nice try .. but another fail

Hmm cool story bro.

Tasmania are 500k. There are 1.6 million in regional Victoria so that's another 1.1m outside the oztam. The entire WA and SA are NOT included in those figures. NT is not covered either.

Your maths = fail

So, still no theory as to why an AFL final only got 90k regional ratings when that's essentially the figure for Tasmania alone, which is a quarter or less of the AFL heartland regional population?

Thought not.

Take your regional ratings back to LU. they're the only fools who believe them.

reading is not your strong point is it
almost 60% of regional WA & SA is included , in the metro ( let go of your willy for a sec & look at the maps ) .... leaving .. well not much

tassie's figures are not 90K for a final ( thats up near GF ratings ) .... most finals I saw for tassie on regionaltam are around 60K
they aren't included in these figures .... but please feel free to add the 60K

so the 90K while being on the low side , remember ratings were down everywhere , the AFL was awfully lop sided & uninteresting in 2011.... is about right for a population catchment of between 1.25 Million & 1.5 Million thats left
again
embrace the truth .... it will free you from your torment

Ok, so, again, 1.1k for Vic, 500k for Tas, a few hundred for SA and WA each easily, NT, and parts of southern NSW and QLD easily adds up to well over 2mil. But according to you that adds up to 1.5m. Yet you still said the figures quoted were a bit on the low side!

Even Victoria alone, the stk v swans game rated well over 10% for the city yet we are told the 1.1mil regional only rated 90k or 8%. Yet this doesn't include SA or WA!

Seriously the figures are just rubbish and were obviously never intended for the purpose of gauging national interest.

So, again, until you prove otherwise, or explain why they are so inaccurate, take them elsewhere. :D

[Topper]

Xman, you'll never get RL supporters to admit there's a problem in regional areas. So I'd give that one up now.

[Xman]

Xman, you'll never get RL supporters to admit there's a problem in regional areas. So I'd give that one up now.

Anyone with even primary school level maths can see they are just garbage! They just do not add up.

No wonder RL fans think they're accurate!

[Raiderdave]

Xman, you'll never get RL supporters to admit there's a problem in regional areas. So I'd give that one up now.

Anyone with even primary school level maths can see they are just garbage! They just do not add up.

No wonder RL fans think they're accurate!

denial ..... theres no crocodiles in it

[Xman]

Xman, you'll never get RL supporters to admit there's a problem in regional areas. So I'd give that one up now.

Anyone with even primary school level maths can see they are just garbage! They just do not add up.

No wonder RL fans think they're accurate!

denial ..... theres no crocodiles in it

I'd suggest you're in denial not me. I understand 90k watching a Final from 2 million viewers is absolute rubbish. You stick your head in the sand and say theyre correct. I know 700k RL regionals compared to 90k AFL regionals is rubbish when the difference in population measured is only 2 to 2.5 times difference.

You can't explain this and never will.