Aussie Rules is Australian.
Thugby League is British.
Enough said.
Aussie Rules is Australian.
derps n misses was invented by an aboriginal murdering drunk , in the British Colony of Vicderpia
Certainly a mixture of rules from some British public schools with some local adaption's at the start. Nothing to do with Gaelic football.truthbomber wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:24 pmderps n misses was invented by an aboriginal murdering drunk , in the British Colony of Vicderpia
its a mish mash any number of British sports including union & Gaelic football ( irish)
its either despised or treated with complete contempt in half of Australia
when half of a country has little to no interest in a sport, that sport has no right to that countrys name![]()
nothing to do with Gaelic football ?Quolls2019 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:51 pmCertainly a mixture of rules from some British public schools with some local adaption's at the start. Nothing to do with Gaelic football.truthbomber wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:24 pmderps n misses was invented by an aboriginal murdering drunk , in the British Colony of Vicderpia
its a mish mash any number of British sports including union & Gaelic football ( irish)
its either despised or treated with complete contempt in half of Australia
when half of a country has little to no interest in a sport, that sport has no right to that countrys name![]()
And not invented by Wills, besides writing the initial letter suggesting formation of a football club, he was pretty much ignored by the other members of the first rules committee, wasn't even invited to the 2nd meeting for some rule revision.
Good player though, and for some time.
Except that the rules for Gaelic Football were not written until 1884.truthbomber wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:15 pmnothing to do with Gaelic football ?Quolls2019 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:51 pmCertainly a mixture of rules from some British public schools with some local adaption's at the start. Nothing to do with Gaelic football.truthbomber wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:24 pm
derps n misses was invented by an aboriginal murdering drunk , in the British Colony of Vicderpia
its a mish mash any number of British sports including union & Gaelic football ( irish)
its either despised or treated with complete contempt in half of Australia
when half of a country has little to no interest in a sport, that sport has no right to that countrys name![]()
And not invented by Wills, besides writing the initial letter suggesting formation of a football club, he was pretty much ignored by the other members of the first rules committee, wasn't even invited to the 2nd meeting for some rule revision.
Good player though, and for some time.![]()
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the hand pass , the bouncing ... the posts
all stolen from Irelands national game
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The game's base - while taking some aspects from British sport - is Marn Grook. As Australian as you can get.truthbomber wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:24 pmderps n misses was invented by an aboriginal murdering drunk , in the British Colony of Vicderpia
its a mish mash any number of British sports including union & Gaelic football ( irish)
its either despised or treated with complete contempt in half of Australia
when half of a country has little to no interest in a sport, that sport has no right to that countrys name![]()
Not largely refuted…totally refuted.TLPG wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:01 pmThen how come the First Australians are so good at the game then? Anyone who has refuted it is not being very logical in my opinion. Marn Grook has a lot of similarities - in fact the Scotch College/Melbourne Grammar game on the description may as well have been Marn Grook except that there was scoring.
No influence at all.TLPG wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:09 pm4. And saw Marn Grook being played by the First Australians.
I'm not saying they started it. I'm saying it had an influence - and speaking as a historian I find it hard to believe it didn't. It makes no sense given that union bears no resemblance to our game and Marn Grook does. Gaelic football does to and for the record while it wasn't codified until later (1870's) it was still about as an idea surely?
saw nothingTLPG wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:09 pm4. And saw Marn Grook being played by the First Australians.
I'm not saying they started it. I'm saying it had an influence - and speaking as a historian I find it hard to believe it didn't. It makes no sense given that union bears no resemblance to our game and Marn Grook does. Gaelic football does to and for the record while it wasn't codified until later (1870's) it was still about as an idea surely?
hahahQuolls2019 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:05 pmExcept that the rules for Gaelic Football were not written until 1884.truthbomber wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:15 pmnothing to do with Gaelic football ?Quolls2019 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:51 pm
Certainly a mixture of rules from some British public schools with some local adaption's at the start. Nothing to do with Gaelic football.
And not invented by Wills, besides writing the initial letter suggesting formation of a football club, he was pretty much ignored by the other members of the first rules committee, wasn't even invited to the 2nd meeting for some rule revision.
Good player though, and for some time.![]()
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sure
the hand pass , the bouncing ... the posts
all stolen from Irelands national game
wow
fumblers & their utter lies![]()
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“ The first account of what the founders of modern Gaelic football referred to as Irish football date to 1873. Paddy Begley notes that in County Kerry in 1870 only soccer and rugby were played, although historian Paddy Foley notes that by 1874 a third, very different form of football began to emerge and spread across South-West Ireland. At Killarney, these highly popular matches were virtually indistinguishable from the Victorian Rules (first codified in 1859 and then played extensively in the Colony of Victoria and Colony of Queensland and to a lesser extent in the colonies of New South Wales and New Zealand). This kicking variety of football was even played with an oval ball which became customary in Australia in the 1870s and that scoring was achieved only by kicking goals. A major difference between the two styles is that Irish variety featured high kicking "up and under" whereas in colonial Victoria, the little marks or foot passes were much more common. While the founders of the game were all familiar with or played rugby, including Cusack and Davin, few had actually played Irish football as it was so rare outside of the South-West, though the influence of this football on the founders was obvious, this is most likely the "football kicking under the Irish rules" that Thomas Croke later recalled in County Cork.
Irish football is a great game and worth going a long way to see when played on a fairly laid out ground and under proper rules. Many old people say just hurling exceeded it as a trial of men. I would not care to see either game now as the rules stand at present. I may say there are no rules and therefore those games are often dangerous.
Maurice Davin, 1884.
Irish historian Garnham, citing R.M. Peter's Irish Football Annual of 1880, argued that Gaelic Football did not actually exist prior to the 1880s and curious on the origin of the distinctive features was of the belief that clubs from England in 1868 most likely introduced elements of their codes including the "mark" (a free kick to players who cleanly catch the ball, which was a feature of the matches played in the 1880s) and scoring by kicking between the upright posts. Unable to identify the source of these peculiar traits he believed they were introduced from English clubs Trinity (1854) and Blackheath (1862) who had their own distinctive rules.”
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