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Time to put down bleeding Lions

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sp ... 6133461435
BRISBANE is set to make an operating loss this year of as much as $3 million.

The struggling Lions -- in their first year of competing against the Gold Coast, the AFL's 17th licence -- are a major concern to the league, which is constantly monitoring their precarious situation. So dire was the cashflow situation of the former powerhouse club that the AFL several months ago handed over an assistance package -- believed to be $1m -- to keep the 2001-02-03 premiers afloat.

This season's expected blowout follows last year's loss of $2.714m. Factoring in this year's anticipated outcome, Brisbane will have lost $8.5m in four years since its last profit of $1.058m in 2007. Lions chief executive Malcolm Holmes was yesterday reluctant to declare this year's financial position, neither did he wish to confirm the amount of the mid-year special subsidy from AFL.

Membership plummeted this year by more than 4000 to 22,338 and average home-game attendances at the Gabba have decreased from 29,982 in 2010 to 20,454.
3 Million loss WOW. Dropping attendance, membership and with the incoming pokie reforms they are truly farked. What was suppose to save their club will now end it.

They shouldn't had been allowed to build their social club in the first place. Logan has the highest number of people with gambling addictions in Queensland maybe even Australia. Talk about preying on the weak and poor for your gain.

I'm sure the AFL greased a few pollies palms to get that through.
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Dear oh dear oh my oh me. Beaussie, if you can, can you give your HONEST opinion here? Looks real bad to me and a worry for the swannies.

If you cant give your honest opinion just sprout something about crowd numbers still being more than league and we'll get your drift... ... ... twitch twitch

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geez louise

& beaussie thinks the Titans are in strife
the AFL has lost up to 20 million on the suns ...setting them up etc

thats 23.5 Million .. down the pooper in SE Qld in 2011 :shock: 8-[

wow
I wonder how honest battling fans in the heartland at Richmond , Nth Melbourne ... Port Adelaide etc feel about that , while they struggle to be competitive the massive reserves they've help build up , are being pissed up against the wall on " play things " in NSW & QLD
its an utter disgrace

that Andy Ididapooh or whateva his name is should be renamed Nero

he's playing the fiddle while Rome Burns
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Still have crowds and a membership base that is the envy of all NRL clubs. A financial loss is not surprising based on their form this season and last. The AFL has heaps of money to prop them up anyway. $1,253 Billion baby. :wink:
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King-Eliagh wrote:
If you cant give your honest opinion just sprout something about crowd numbers still being more than league and we'll get your drift... ... ... twitch twitch

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Beaussie wrote:
Still have crowds and a membership base that is the envy of all NRL clubs.

:cheers: :_<> :cheers:

:(/ :(/ :(/

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Beaussie wrote:
Still have crowds and a membership base that is the envy of all NRL clubs. A financial loss is not surprising based on their form this season and last. The AFL has heaps of money to prop them up anyway. $1,253 Billion baby. :wink:
they'll need every cent
the Swans
the Thuns
the Lions
the Midgits ... oops .. Giants

not to mention

Richmond
Melbourne
Port Adelaide
North Melbourne
Essendon

all either broke... & or requiring a lot of assistance for a long time to come
my my .... wot a mess :wink:
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And meanwhile, the Gold Coast Titans could fold at any time under massive mounting debts and Manly are relying on finals to turn around the massive financial problems too. Hmm, and how are the Raiders going BTW? :(/
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Beaussie wrote:
And meanwhile, the Gold Coast Titans could fold at any time under massive mounting debts and Manly are relying on finals to turn around the massive financial problems too. Hmm, and how are the Raiders going BTW? :(/
the Raiders are doing quite well
they own about 10 licensed premises across NSW & QLD .. all turning small profits
& 10 small profits equal 1 pretty decent one so the Greenmachine is doing just fine

the AFL will be in an utter mess in 5 years
nothing surer
great days .... great days :wink:
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Beaussie wrote:
And meanwhile, the Gold Coast Titans could fold at any time under massive mounting debts and Manly are relying on finals to turn around the massive financial problems too. Hmm, and how are the Raiders going BTW? :(/
Hmmm, you have noted two clubs with no backup. However, you might want to take a look in your own back yard as you aint doing to as well as you paint the picture.

In the artical below, there is Brisbane, Port Adelaide, Western Bulldogs, Melbourne, North Melbourne, Richmond and Carlton all mentioned in here as recieving financial assistance. Then you have the Suns and still have GWS coming. A billion dollars is a lot of money, but can only stretch so far. :shock:.

Brisbane reveals its financial woes Caroline Wilson

JUST as the gloves have come off in the wages battle between the AFL and its players, another club has emerged near the top of the critical list.

On the same day the league negotiated a rescue package for Port Adelaide, AFL boss Andrew Demetriou confirmed his executive was working on another package for the Brisbane Lions.

A combination of poor administrative decisions, plus the devastating floods that struck the city during summer has created a perfect storm for the once-powerful club.

Advertisement: Story continues below While the AFL continues to lament, along with its united 18 teams, that the hardships being suffered by clubs is falling on deaf ears where the players are concerned, it has emerged the Lions' revenue is down 25 per cent and that it is headed for its sixth successive seven-figure loss.

Brisbane's home crowds this season are down 10,000 on average per game and the club has incurred debt for the first time.

While it remains optimistic of soon turning a profit at its new venture at Springwood, the club remains in dire financial straits with three senior AFL staff, led by executive Andrew Catterall, having all being seconded to work at the club on a part-time basis.

''Port Adelaide and Brisbane are two clubs that will need help this season,'' Demetriou told The Saturday Age.

''This is not help we had budgeted for. We met Port Adelaide and SANFL today and we will be putting a recommendation to the commission for a funding package to see them through until the end of 2013.

''We're working on a financial package to help Brisbane. They've had a series of issues, including poor decisions such as Brendan Fevola, which hurt the club and its culture and its bottom line. But the floods have devastated not only the Lions but most of the big sporting organisations in Brisbane.

''Fortunately, the floods did not extend to the Gold Coast.''

Demetriou would not detail the extent of Port Adelaide's rescue package, which is understood to be close to $3 million a year for the next three years including 2011. He said Brisbane's relief would be finalised within the next two months, adding that the AFL had to remain prepared for clubs in previously commanding financial positions to fall on hard times for a combination of reasons.

Both the AFL and the Lions have agreed they are fully aware of the serious nature of the club's issues, which has prompted an almost total rebuild of Brisbane's football and administrative operations during the past nine months.

Brisbane, towards the end of its premiership era, boasted a bank balance of close to $6 million, an amount which has severely diminished due to poor management, along with some stockmarket losses.

Port Adelaide's future now appears secured, although not that of chief executive Mark Haysman.

The Power boss has fallen out with the SANFL, the state's governing football body which owns the Port Adelaide licence, and while the AFL implored Haysman not to resign several weeks ago, his position still seems far from secure and he did not attend the financial talks in Melbourne.

Clearly, the financial struggles of the clubs might prove a timely argument for the AFL as it attempts in increasingly hostile circumstances to negotiate a new collective bargaining agreement with its players, however, those perils are not being exaggerated.

The Western Bulldogs, Melbourne, North Melbourne, Richmond and Carlton are all receiving extra assistance from the AFL. The appalling off-field publicity afforded St Kilda over the summer caused the club to miss out on a number of lucrative sponsorship deals.

Little wonder the players are losing the public battle as the game's stakeholders continue to put up their hands for their fair share of the billion-dollar-plus broadcast rights
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Beaussie wrote:
The AFL has heaps of money to prop them up anyway. $1,253 Billion baby. :wink:
The AFL might want to consider what the affects are on the players and other clubs with all this money flying around for a select few. I say good on those few guys for getting the money, but it is at the expense of all the other players in the code. So far it doesn't sound like the scully, Karmichael or Falou episodes have gone down to well with the player group or other clubs and rightly so.

As for your 1.253 billion. It won't go far if you need to keep cashing up all the clubs re the above artical, that is half your competition. If the new clubs keep spending money like they are, then you will be in lickerish alsorts. 4 players are eating up over 22million of it, that is getting close to 2% of the entire deal. I may be wrong, but I am sure that the AFL is would be coffing up a good chunk of this money.
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