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Fred wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:44 pm
Quolls2019 wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:32 pm But how much would they bid, for what is only, at the moment, 3 nights mid week, with not many ad breaks......as popular as it is.
Ad breaks are really secondary as it is the subscriptions they want.
SSO is amongst the anti siphoning events, FTA get first crack and they depend on AD revenue.


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pussycat Mark 11 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:05 pm Wow 180 ,150 ........Such a differance WOW! vwhat a difference - :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
wtf are you on about?

1. You guys have repeatedly claimed the AFL have a FTA advantage combining ratings from multiple home markets using concurrent games, and how it offsets the loss in concurrent fox ratings. Well yesterday's single FTA game rated over 900k, just as much if not more viewers than combined games into multiple markets. So the advantage is in your imagingation. Last week showed this as well.

2. The NRL's 2 fox games averaged 194k. The a AFL's 2 fox games rated 171k. This is about the same margin we see on Thursday's and Fridays. This, again, shows the AFL rate better on fox when games are shown in isolation

3. You claim the AFL only rates on Thursdays and Fridays. Now our single game flogged yours on a Sunday by almost 300k :afro:


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Quolls2019 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:21 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:12 pm
Quolls2019 wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:22 pm The landscape has changed drastically, there will definitely be more bids by more players for the AFL ptv rights, and partnerships for deals for both FTA/ptv are becoming more likely. And the PTV rights for the AFL come up before the NRL and they are in conjunction with the FTA rights.
I think the AFL will do very well out of it.
That is very true, alot more options in Streaming...
I just do not see AFL getting anything like the FOX Deal, 6 year 1.2bill
if they can not get exclusive games per week.
Streaming services will want Exclusive Games

the FTA Deal for AFL is a bargain compared to the NRL FTA
I think the options have changed enough to give the AFL the opportunity and incentive to be very creative, especially as their 2 main rights, expire at the same time, I’m sure not accidentally. And creative they will be.
yeah agree, well FOX have stated they want exclusive games, and not the current arrangement at the moment.

if AFL and FOX mix this up and most definitely FOX will pay up.
however FTA will decrease as they would be getting less


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Quolls2019 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:26 pm
Fred wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:44 pm
Quolls2019 wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:32 pm But how much would they bid, for what is only, at the moment, 3 nights mid week, with not many ad breaks......as popular as it is.
Ad breaks are really secondary as it is the subscriptions they want.
SSO is amongst the anti siphoning events, FTA get first crack and they depend on AD revenue.
be interesting if and a BIG IF "the NRL" went to 4 quarters..


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NlolRL wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:28 pm
pussycat Mark 11 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:05 pm Wow 180 ,150 ........Such a differance WOW! vwhat a difference - :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
wtf are you on about?

1. You guys have repeatedly claimed the AFL have a FTA advantage combining ratings from multiple home markets using concurrent games, and how it offsets the loss in concurrent fox ratings. Well yesterday's single FTA game rated over 900k, just as much if not more viewers than combined games into multiple markets. So the advantage is in your imagingation. Last week showed this as well.

2. The NRL's 2 fox games averaged 194k. The a AFL's 2 fox games rated 171k. This is about the same margin we see on Thursday's and Fridays. This, again, shows the AFL rate better on fox when games are shown in isolation

3. You claim the AFL only rates on Thursdays and Fridays. Now our single game flogged yours on a Sunday by almost 300k :afro:
this week was entirely different..
and was a Primetime game across Australia.
in a rare Sunday Night.

each week will be different and benefit ratings and some weeks it will not.


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But isn't it said prime time also avails itself to better opposition??? Or is that only for Sunday night grand finals?
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Fred wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:49 pm But isn't it said prime time also avails itself to better opposition??? Or is that only for Sunday night grand finals?
of course it has you up against better programming playing in Primetime.
with any sport or tv show, it is up against popular programs.
does not mean it will not rate


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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:45 pm
NlolRL wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:28 pm
pussycat Mark 11 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:05 pm Wow 180 ,150 ........Such a differance WOW! vwhat a difference - :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
wtf are you on about?

1. You guys have repeatedly claimed the AFL have a FTA advantage combining ratings from multiple home markets using concurrent games, and how it offsets the loss in concurrent fox ratings. Well yesterday's single FTA game rated over 900k, just as much if not more viewers than combined games into multiple markets. So the advantage is in your imagingation. Last week showed this as well.

2. The NRL's 2 fox games averaged 194k. The a AFL's 2 fox games rated 171k. This is about the same margin we see on Thursday's and Fridays. This, again, shows the AFL rate better on fox when games are shown in isolation

3. You claim the AFL only rates on Thursdays and Fridays. Now our single game flogged yours on a Sunday by almost 300k :afro:
this week was entirely different..
and was a Primetime game across Australia.
in a rare Sunday Night.

each week will be different and benefit ratings and some weeks it will not.
Well the last 2 weekends have shown they can schedule single games which rate just as well on fta as concurrent games.


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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:15 pm
Fred wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:49 pm But isn't it said prime time also avails itself to better opposition??? Or is that only for Sunday night grand finals?
of course it has you up against better programming playing in Primetime.
with any sport or tv show, it is up against popular programs.
does not mean it will not rate
So is prime time a ratings advantage or not? For years RL fans have claimed it isn't because opposition programs are more popular.


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NlolRL wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:19 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:45 pm
NlolRL wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:28 pm
wtf are you on about?

1. You guys have repeatedly claimed the AFL have a FTA advantage combining ratings from multiple home markets using concurrent games, and how it offsets the loss in concurrent fox ratings. Well yesterday's single FTA game rated over 900k, just as much if not more viewers than combined games into multiple markets. So the advantage is in your imagingation. Last week showed this as well.

2. The NRL's 2 fox games averaged 194k. The a AFL's 2 fox games rated 171k. This is about the same margin we see on Thursday's and Fridays. This, again, shows the AFL rate better on fox when games are shown in isolation

3. You claim the AFL only rates on Thursdays and Fridays. Now our single game flogged yours on a Sunday by almost 300k :afro:
this week was entirely different..
and was a Primetime game across Australia.
in a rare Sunday Night.

each week will be different and benefit ratings and some weeks it will not.
Well the last 2 weekends have shown they can schedule single games which rate just as well on fta as concurrent games.
All the good figures are coming out of Melbourne.


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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:22 pm
NlolRL wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:19 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:45 pm

this week was entirely different..
and was a Primetime game across Australia.
in a rare Sunday Night.

each week will be different and benefit ratings and some weeks it will not.
Well the last 2 weekends have shown they can schedule single games which rate just as well on fta as concurrent games.
All the good figures are coming out of Melbourne.
Melbourne isn't in lockdown this weekend. Perth rated 143k last night


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NlolRL wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:21 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:15 pm
Fred wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:49 pm But isn't it said prime time also avails itself to better opposition??? Or is that only for Sunday night grand finals?
of course it has you up against better programming playing in Primetime.
with any sport or tv show, it is up against popular programs.
does not mean it will not rate
So is prime time a ratings advantage or not? For years RL fans have claimed it isn't because opposition programs are more popular.
overall positives and negatives yes it is advantage to play primetime games at Night..

But i will say Grand Final's are different, it is ingrained in to you of when the game is and when.
Society and fans know time and date of when the big dance is scheduled to play.

if you don't know when the AFL Grand Final is by now.. you are not gonna be watching either way...
likewise with the NRL GF


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NlolRL wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:26 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:22 pm
NlolRL wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:19 pm
Well the last 2 weekends have shown they can schedule single games which rate just as well on fta as concurrent games.
All the good figures are coming out of Melbourne.
Melbourne isn't in lockdown this weekend. Perth rated 143k last night
i know this, but you are still have restrictions in place.

I would not expect anything less for West Coast 143k in a big match up.


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Quolls2019 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:26 pm
Fred wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:44 pm
Quolls2019 wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:32 pm But how much would they bid, for what is only, at the moment, 3 nights mid week, with not many ad breaks......as popular as it is.
Ad breaks are really secondary as it is the subscriptions they want.
SSO is amongst the anti siphoning events, FTA get first crack and they depend on AD revenue.
A couple more thoughts.

Let’s pretend that the the SSO series is sold as a seperate package and the FTA networks do not bid for it.

So it’s open to PTV etc:
Does the winner:
Include it in the current package and if so would Foxtel/Kayo gain more subscriptions to at least pay for it?

If included it an existing package would they need to change the spread of the games, using the past few years as an example, you could get the 3 games by subscribing for a month then cancelling.

Sell it as an events package as an extra? Unlikely to get more permanent subscribers that way

Sell it as an events single game buy? Ditto.

Sell each game to different providers, remembering in this scenario FTA’s have passed.

I suppose there is no reason the FTA’s couldn’t bid for each game either.

Could get interesting, but there is a little while to wait.

And Leeroy, I suppose a 4 quarter game could be introduced just for SSO for possible more ad revenue.

Another option for PTV if successful would be to sell ad time for SSO “events”


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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:29 pm
NlolRL wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:26 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:22 pm

All the good figures are coming out of Melbourne.
Melbourne isn't in lockdown this weekend. Perth rated 143k last night
i know this, but you are still have restrictions in place.

I would not expect anything less for West Coast 143k in a big match up.
Lol

Ratings were consistent with other prime time games in Melbourne. Restaurants here have been packed. In fact the state government are subsidising meals in the cbd by 20%


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