Fight Club - Football TV Ratings (AFL vs NRL)

[NlolRL]

Why i get your point... Collingwood Game would out rate a Suns game...

The supporters of the game can always watch this game on FOX FOOTY...


While have a think about NRL fans That have 5 exclusive games on FOX

and that there is only 3 Titans games on FTA this year...

but it is a decrease in ratings overall if more would watch the collingwood game on FTA.

Targteting home markets doesn't always result in higher ratings. EG: Fremantle v Suns shown in Perth on FTA while Crows v Collingwood is also playing and more interesting to non-freo fans.

Have you got any examples of Brisbane's FTA ratings when the Titans are playing?

That is correct, targeting home markets do not always get higher ratings..

this is the case for 3 AFL teams

LIONS
SUNS
GWS

SWANS usually draw 10-20k higher on AVG than other games..

(Titans games when shown on FTA) rate actually pretty good in QLD>
but not so much in NSW

they generally would rate over 120k-150k when played on FTA in Metro .. do not have regionals ..

this is where the AFL style of Tv Deal would work great>>

LIVE IN QLD for Titans games, but on FOX Australia wide.

Bigger games rate higher in Qld than the suns or sometimes even the lions. I agree with the Swans, but over a year that'll be maybe 23 times 20k extra, or 500k more?

Got examples of Titans ratings? I doubt they rate much more than non-Brisbane games but Im happy to be shown otherwise. As far as Im aware GC is considered part of Brisbane for ratings so regionals wouldnt be higher

[pussycat]

Almost 14mil lead in the projection.
For the well being of our northern counterparts I hope SOO do something special this year.
It's fast becoming a very large gap to bridge.
10mil might not cut it this year.

Projections are just that though aren't they. Do your projections show that the AFL will be getting, not 51/2 not even 4 1/2 but just 3 1/2 matches on FTA each week (pretty much) from now on? Not a lot more than what we get. Does your projections take into account rep football? Or the 10 or 12 million it brings with it. ????????????????????. What about the NRL's final round, and the extra 3 or 4 million it will bring ??????????????????? You currently lead by about 2million. Do you think you will get enough???? ....... Enjoy that silver . Most people would love a silver medal. Have you got a place picked out yet? ?.......... maybe somewhere on the mantle piece.

[NlolRL]

What about AFL Finals which have massively outrated NRL ones in recent years. What about the AFL preseason and AflW? I mean if we start counting "rugby league" ie. Origin, Tests and preseason...what about SANFL, WAFL, and VFL broadcasts - I can tell you now all 3 outright the Intrust Cup in Queensland, which i also have figures for, as opposed to NSW Cup (which is on Fox) and we dont have any figures for so far this year, although im trying to see if I can get that data too.

Theres more to this "most watched sport" shit than you let on.

Maybe it makes sense to compare NRL v AFL competitions only, then a separate comparison of Australian Rules Football ratings outside AFL v RL ratings outside NRL? These could include Daly M, brownlow, footy shows, SOO, internationals, State competition etc

[Terry]

What about AFL Finals which have massively outrated NRL ones in recent years. What about the AFL preseason and AflW? I mean if we start counting "rugby league" ie. Origin, Tests and preseason...what about SANFL, WAFL, and VFL broadcasts - I can tell you now all 3 outright the Intrust Cup in Queensland, which i also have figures for, as opposed to NSW Cup (which is on Fox) and we dont have any figures for so far this year, although im trying to see if I can get that data too.

Theres more to this "most watched sport" shit than you let on.

Of course Wookie. There are nuances and interpretations that can be twisted and turned in many different ways.

Unsurprisingly I believe my method, beatifically enunciated on previous occasions, is the best: Count both domestic seasons, finals and GF's. The AFL have more games played in their season. I believe this year it will be 6?? RL adds in SOO and internationals to make the number of games equal. Voila........simple, fair, comonsense!!!! Count ratings for the elite games only.

Of course then there is the matter of NZ ratings. In previous years you have added them in separately & given a total for the NRL both with and without them. That's the way to do it. The punter can choose if they..... you know......strike them in.....or strike them out.....we know how that's gonna work out. Once again .......simple, fair & commonsense.

So there ya have it!!! No more correspondence needed!!!! Bewdy!!!!!!

[NlolRL]

What about AFL Finals which have massively outrated NRL ones in recent years. What about the AFL preseason and AflW? I mean if we start counting "rugby league" ie. Origin, Tests and preseason...what about SANFL, WAFL, and VFL broadcasts - I can tell you now all 3 outright the Intrust Cup in Queensland, which i also have figures for, as opposed to NSW Cup (which is on Fox) and we dont have any figures for so far this year, although im trying to see if I can get that data too.

Theres more to this "most watched sport" shit than you let on.

Of course Wookie. There are nuances and interpretations that can be twisted and turned in many different ways.

Unsurprisingly I believe my method, beatifically enunciated on previous occasions, is the best: Count both domestic seasons, finals and GF's. The AFL have more games played in their season. I believe this year it will be 6?? RL adds in SOO and internationals to make the number of games equal. Voila........simple, fair, comonsense!!!! Count ratings for the elite games only.

Of course then there is the matter of NZ ratings. In previous years you have added them in separately & given a total for the NRL both with and without them. That's the way to do it. The punter can choose if they..... you know......strike them in.....or strike them out.....we know how that's gonna work out. Once again .......simple, fair & commonsense.

So there ya have it!!! No more correspondence needed!!!! Bewdy!!!!!!

So you count the sport vs the national comp. Of course you think that's fair

[Terry]

What about AFL Finals which have massively outrated NRL ones in recent years. What about the AFL preseason and AflW? I mean if we start counting "rugby league" ie. Origin, Tests and preseason...what about SANFL, WAFL, and VFL broadcasts - I can tell you now all 3 outright the Intrust Cup in Queensland, which i also have figures for, as opposed to NSW Cup (which is on Fox) and we dont have any figures for so far this year, although im trying to see if I can get that data too.

Theres more to this "most watched sport" shit than you let on.

Of course Wookie. There are nuances and interpretations that can be twisted and turned in many different ways.

Unsurprisingly I believe my method, beatifically enunciated on previous occasions, is the best: Count both domestic seasons, finals and GF's. The AFL have more games played in their season. I believe this year it will be 6?? RL adds in SOO and internationals to make the number of games equal. Voila........simple, fair, comonsense!!!! Count ratings for the elite games only.

Of course then there is the matter of NZ ratings. In previous years you have added them in separately & given a total for the NRL both with and without them. That's the way to do it. The punter can choose if they..... you know......strike them in.....or strike them out.....we know how that's gonna work out. Once again .......simple, fair & commonsense.

So there ya have it!!! No more correspondence needed!!!! Bewdy!!!!!!

So you count the sport vs the national comp. Of course you think that's fair

You'll have to explain this pal. It's kind of unintelligible. Please re-word it and I will respond.

[NlolRL]

You think it's reasonable to count the AFL competition only vs the NRL competition plus games that arent part of the NRL competition

[pussycat]

What about AFL Finals which have massively outrated NRL ones in recent years. What about the AFL preseason and AflW? I mean if we start counting "rugby league" ie. Origin, Tests and preseason...what about SANFL, WAFL, and VFL broadcasts - I can tell you now all 3 outright the Intrust Cup in Queensland, which i also have figures for, as opposed to NSW Cup (which is on Fox) and we dont have any figures for so far this year, although im trying to see if I can get that data too.

The rep games are a party of the Rugby League season. For Nearly 10 weeks the best 40 players are not available or are backing up after a few days .
Rugby League doesn't have to put its eggs in one basket they have options. That's what makes them Australia's most POPULAR sport.

[Terry]

You think it's reasonable to count the AFL competition only vs the NRL competition plus games that arent part of the NRL competition

Pal, you can do it whatever way you like. Of course you will manufacture an AFL advantage. My fair and equitable method counts the exact same number of games played at the elite levels of both codes. RL has 3 levels, your mob has 1. At the end of the day I count the exact same number of games. Couldn't be fairer.

Last year RL had the most ratings anyway you look at it. This year your fumbling game may have more for the domestic comps only. (Although if NZ was added this may not be the case). Once RL adds in the requisite number of games to equal the number the AFL plays it will win.

Either way you will not accept anything that does not favour fumbleball. It's in your DNA pal. You know......the bubble and all that!!!!!!!!!!

[NlolRL]

You think it's reasonable to count the AFL competition only vs the NRL competition plus games that arent part of the NRL competition

Pal, you can do it whatever way you like. Of course you will manufacture an AFL advantage. My fair and equitable method counts the exact same number of games played at the elite levels of both codes. RL has 3 levels, your mob has 1. At the end of the day I count the exact same number of games. Couldn't be fairer.

Last year RL had the most ratings anyway you look at it. This year your fumbling game may have more for the domestic comps only. (Although if NZ was added this may not be the case). Once RL adds in the requisite number of games to equal the number the AFL plays it will win.

Either way you will not accept anything that does not favour fumbleball. It's in your DNA pal. You know......the bubble and all that!!!!!!!!!!

oh you know your own bubble very well.

21-0 is just an anomaly

[Terry]

You think it's reasonable to count the AFL competition only vs the NRL competition plus games that arent part of the NRL competition

Pal, you can do it whatever way you like. Of course you will manufacture an AFL advantage. My fair and equitable method counts the exact same number of games played at the elite levels of both codes. RL has 3 levels, your mob has 1. At the end of the day I count the exact same number of games. Couldn't be fairer.

Last year RL had the most ratings anyway you look at it. This year your fumbling game may have more for the domestic comps only. (Although if NZ was added this may not be the case). Once RL adds in the requisite number of games to equal the number the AFL plays it will win.

Either way you will not accept anything that does not favour fumbleball. It's in your DNA pal. You know......the bubble and all that!!!!!!!!!!

oh you know your own bubble very well.

21-0 is just an anomaly

And there ya go pal. Right on cue. Exhibit A. It's a bigger picture than that pal. But the only picture you're interested in is one that some way or another favours your fumbling game. It's impossible to have a serious conversation about this matter.

In any case you want to compare just domestic comps. Great!!!!! So do you accept the NRL had more TV viewers in 2018 than the AFL? Making it objectively the most popular sport on Tv.

And here it comes..............................cumulative ratings mean nothing lololololol!!!!!!!!!!!

Back into the bubble!!!!!!

[pussycat]

You think it's reasonable to count the AFL competition only vs the NRL competition plus games that arent part of the NRL competition

Pal, you can do it whatever way you like. Of course you will manufacture an AFL advantage. My fair and equitable method counts the exact same number of games played at the elite levels of both codes. RL has 3 levels, your mob has 1. At the end of the day I count the exact same number of games. Couldn't be fairer.

Last year RL had the most ratings anyway you look at it. This year your fumbling game may have more for the domestic comps only. (Although if NZ was added this may not be the case). Once RL adds in the requisite number of games to equal the number the AFL plays it will win.

Either way you will not accept anything that does not favour fumbleball. It's in your DNA pal. You know......the bubble and all that!!!!!!!!!!

oh you know your own bubble very well.

21-0 is just an anomaly

Does it ever come in to your thought process that at least 1/3 of your games are shown in complete isolation. you have many more matches on FTA , You split your Sat/Sunday matches to increase you ratings. Yet you still get beat by millions. but, but, but, scheduling, scheduling

The AFL FTA broadcast guide only shows the first 17 rounds.

Melbourne: 60matches
Adelaide: 65m
Perth: 70m

Over That time(RL)

Sydney: 54
Brisbane: 54
New Zealand: 0

[leeroy*NRL*]

but it is a decrease in ratings overall if more would watch the collingwood game on FTA.

Targteting home markets doesn't always result in higher ratings. EG: Fremantle v Suns shown in Perth on FTA while Crows v Collingwood is also playing and more interesting to non-freo fans.

Have you got any examples of Brisbane's FTA ratings when the Titans are playing?

That is correct, targeting home markets do not always get higher ratings..

this is the case for 3 AFL teams

LIONS
SUNS
GWS

SWANS usually draw 10-20k higher on AVG than other games..

(Titans games when shown on FTA) rate actually pretty good in QLD>
but not so much in NSW

they generally would rate over 120k-150k when played on FTA in Metro .. do not have regionals ..

this is where the AFL style of Tv Deal would work great>>

LIVE IN QLD for Titans games, but on FOX Australia wide.

Bigger games rate higher in Qld than the suns or sometimes even the lions. I agree with the Swans, but over a year that'll be maybe 23 times 20k extra, or 500k more?

Got examples of Titans ratings? I doubt they rate much more than non-Brisbane games but Im happy to be shown otherwise. As far as Im aware GC is considered part of Brisbane for ratings so regionals wouldnt be higher

Maybe 500k more.. if they did not have to watch SUNS or LIONS>
what does that tell you about the state of these two teams than lol ?

for primetime games for Titans when showed in PRIMETIME>> would usually rate above 140k
and Gold Coast have a good following in Northern NSW so regionals do ok for them..

Only game they played in PRIMETIME last year rated 123k Metro in Brisbane
and was against Souths.

I guess we will have to wait until next Thursday and and see what they rate>>
for there first FTA game of the Year.. YES ROUND 9

[leeroy*NRL*]

Include everything i recan>> that is included in the TV DEALS>>

NRL>>
H&A Finals & SOO & STATE LEVEL>

Rep Games Internationals and Exhibition games are usually not included in Deal for rugby league.

AFL>>
H&A Finals & STATE LEVEL>>

[pussycat]

Pal, you can do it whatever way you like. Of course you will manufacture an AFL advantage. My fair and equitable method counts the exact same number of games played at the elite levels of both codes. RL has 3 levels, your mob has 1. At the end of the day I count the exact same number of games. Couldn't be fairer.

Last year RL had the most ratings anyway you look at it. This year your fumbling game may have more for the domestic comps only. (Although if NZ was added this may not be the case). Once RL adds in the requisite number of games to equal the number the AFL plays it will win.

Either way you will not accept anything that does not favour fumbleball. It's in your DNA pal. You know......the bubble and all that!!!!!!!!!!

"Manufacture" - you mean treat both sides the same way.

My policy is I add all games played under the TV deals for both sports. Preseason, season, finals, rep games and anything else that falls under the deal.

How are you treating both sides the same? You are only counting the ratings 85% of the Rugby League season against the entire AFL season.