Fight Club - Football TV Ratings (AFL vs NRL)

[NlolRL]

Oh dear .

If you have a counter argument post it. But clearly you dont

[AFLcrap1]

If you had a brain or something resembling it you could see that to try to use 2 USA sports that play nowhere near the same amount of games as each other & try to use as some sort of comparison to AFL & RL which play the same season .....same time slots a lot of the time & nearly the same amount of games is not even in te same ballpark .
It's laughable
It's not even close to te same .
But you go to These insane & I mean that literally lengths to try to justify your arguments .
Get help

[NlolRL]

If you had a brain or something resembling it you could see that to try to use 2 USA sports that play nowhere near the same amount of games as each other & try to use as some sort of comparison to AFL & RL which play the same season .....same time slots a lot of the time & nearly the same amount of games is not even in te same ballpark .
It's laughable
It's not even close to te same .
But you go to These insane & I mean that literally lengths to try to justify your arguments .
Get help

Their conditions are different and they dont use cumulative ratings. In fact i cant find any reference to cumulative ratings for US sports at all.

If they indicate popularity why dont they use them?

The AFL and nrl have vastly different scheduling yet somehow the nrl media think cumulative ratings are important. I think theyre on their own

[SportCapital]

Ok here we go........again!!!!! Pal, the incontrovertable fact is that in 2018 RL had around 20 million more viewers than AFL. In that figure I am using NRL, SOO and a few International games that add up to the exact same number of games in the AFL season, finals included. PLEASE NOTE - the same number of games. A pretty fair comparison I would say.

That is a monumental win to RL. As such it could be fairly said that RL is the most popular sport on Australian TV in 2018.

You argue that the cumulative number is not representative of the actual popularity of a code. Good luck with that one pal!!!!!

You then give us a myriad of excuses why the AFL could, should, maybe, get bigger ratings. Most are around scheduling. Some of your points may be correct. The fact remains though that RL thrashed the AFL this year. The only way to prove your point is to get Gilty to change the scheduling & see what any perceived increase would be. He won't do it.....so tough titties. The facts are the facts.

Conversely the NRL only has the home ratings for 15 teams. NZ ratings this year increased by 40%. Over the season that's about another 7 million viewers in total. That's an actual fact.....not a could, should or maybe.

You can and will continue to tell us that the AFL wins most Fridays and finals and that 'proves' they are the most popular code. You are right that on balance more people watch AFL than RL on Friday's & finals. However the numbers and averages over the year, taking in RL's 3 tiers, proves RL is the easy winner.

It's facts v could, should, maybe. The codes have different structures and viewing patterns. AFL do well on Fridays. RL go stupendously with SOO, are very strong with Internationals and have great domestic (NRL) numbers.

(Having said that the NRL comp alone, with many less games, outrated the AFL season for the first time in many years.)

You can and will continue on and on and on with your excuses, theories and spurious comparisons. It won't change the facts.

I will not be going round and round the goldfish bowl with you about this again......it's been done to death pal. Let's just say you can stick to your if, but's and maybe's and I'll stick to the cold hard facts.

Another cold hard fact Terry.
By claiming a 20mil viewers win, your actually saying in reality it's only about 6500 more logs of an Oztam box.
Another way to see it is about half the average crowd at one NRL game.

Stop deflecting onto crowds ..you seem to have a habit of it . .

You ignored my last post where you ranted about Rating boxes .
Cold hard fact is that media companies spend billions of $$$ on what results these boxes provide.

You ignored that ..why.

Oh that's right the AFL fan agenda .
Can't accept that your sport gets smashed by another so make excuse after excuse .
Or try to downplay the way ratings are assessed .

An old ploy .laughable ..but understandable .
You don't have anything else .

We have plenty Crap. I won't mention them though, I know the C word alone causes your confidence to run down your leg.
I was just providing a visualisation of 6500 people.
You're right though, they spend billions, some more than others.
But on the back of a measly amount of metered Oztam box's alone.........?
I've no doubt it's a handy metric due to there not being anything better.
Until everything is streamed we'll never know the true and accurate figure. Even then it may be closely kept IP.

In the meantime the nightly ratings battles will rage.

But just remember, in reality, it's a handful of box's, not a real count of hundreds of thousands actual viewers you're arguing about.
One trick pony that literally is a trick....... Of numbers

I wouldn't hang my hat on it.

[AFLcrap1]

Oh dear.

[SportCapital]

Looks like leaguers hate it when reality encroaches on their bubble.

[AFLcrap1]

Nope it's you & your fumbler mate who can't accept reality .
Come up with excuse after excuse
Make bizarre comparisons using USA sports .
Try to discount rating boxes .

All because your sport gets smashed .
It's great entertainment ...
Accept the reality & move on ...RL is the most watched sport in AUST .

[SportCapital]

Just highlighting what they actually count for in reality.

[AFLcrap1]

Gold .Gold .Gold
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[NlolRL]

Gold .Gold .Gold
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come up with another comparison of programs world-wide that use cumulative totals. I showed you a comparison of 2 of the biggest sporting comps in the world and they use averages, and mainly of their highest rating games. They dont even mention cumulative totals.n

Until then your cumulative ratings 'victory' isnt relevant at all, except maybe for poor old Roy Masters

[Terry]

Well folks here we have exhibit A as to why this site is struggling. How many times do we have to have this argument? For the sake of sanity lets just say there are differing....ummmm…...'opinions' on this matter and maybe, just maybe move on. Anything other than that is just plain and utter idiocy.

I fear we are heading straight back to the:

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the point of this site is to discuss such topics. You guys just cant argue beyond "cumulative ratings equals most popular".

I made a perfectly good post showing how scheduling on one day greatly affects cumulative ratings and all you hear is crickets. There's no attempt to argue my points, all you return to is "but the cumulative ratings......"

FFS, even biassed old Masters acknowledged the cumulative ratings do not account for the AFLs scheduling disadvantages.

The average free-to-air audience for the NRL was 600,181 in 2018, compared to 307,793 for the AFL (down 13 per cent on 2017), acknowledging that the AFL has cross-over timeslots and doesn’t go free to air with the same games nationally.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-tr ... 502u1.html

Masters said nothing of the sort ya first class dill!!! He merely stated the facts of AFL scheduling. Read the headline of the article: NRL TRUMPS AFL IN TV RATINGS WAR. There's ya story pal.

When you have to distort facts and tell lies you have lost the argument. And you lost this argument a long long time ago.

And don't come back with ya lame, 'you won't argue my points' BS. This issue has been argued, debated, hashed, re-hashed and scrutinised over and over day after day week after week with the same BS every time.

If you have short term memory problems just print out some of the posts about this and stick it on ya fridge. And every time you get the urge to post about it AGAIN read the posts and don't bother.

What this site needs is for issues to be shut down when they have been done to death. You are never going to believe reality and I am never going to believe your fantasy. End of story. Close down this never ending goldfish bowl argument. 2018 is over. It's run and won. 2019 is another year.

[AFLcrap1]

Well folks here we have exhibit A as to why this site is struggling. How many times do we have to have this argument? For the sake of sanity lets just say there are differing....ummmm…...'opinions' on this matter and maybe, just maybe move on. Anything other than that is just plain and utter idiocy.

I fear we are heading straight back to the:

gold.jpg

the point of this site is to discuss such topics. You guys just cant argue beyond "cumulative ratings equals most popular".

I made a perfectly good post showing how scheduling on one day greatly affects cumulative ratings and all you hear is crickets. There's no attempt to argue my points, all you return to is "but the cumulative ratings......"

FFS, even biassed old Masters acknowledged the cumulative ratings do not account for the AFLs scheduling disadvantages.

The average free-to-air audience for the NRL was 600,181 in 2018, compared to 307,793 for the AFL (down 13 per cent on 2017), acknowledging that the AFL has cross-over timeslots and doesn’t go free to air with the same games nationally.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-tr ... 502u1.html

Masters said nothing of the sort ya first class dill!!! He merely stated the facts of AFL scheduling. Read the headline of the article: NRL TRUMPS AFL IN TV RATINGS WAR. There's ya story pal.

When you have to distort facts and tell lies you have lost the argument. And you lost this argument a long long time ago.

And don't come back with ya lame, 'you won't argue my points' BS. This issue has been argued, debated, hashed, re-hashed and scrutinised over and over day after day week after week with the same BS every time.

If you have short term memory problems just print out some of the posts about this and stick it on ya fridge. And every time you get the urge to post about it AGAIN read the posts and don't bother.

What this site needs is for issues to be shut down when they have been done to death. You are never going to believe reality and I am never going to believe your fantasy. End of story. Close down this never ending goldfish bowl argument. 2018 is over. It's run and won. 2019 is another year.

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[NlolRL]

Well folks here we have exhibit A as to why this site is struggling. How many times do we have to have this argument? For the sake of sanity lets just say there are differing....ummmm…...'opinions' on this matter and maybe, just maybe move on. Anything other than that is just plain and utter idiocy.

I fear we are heading straight back to the:

gold.jpg

the point of this site is to discuss such topics. You guys just cant argue beyond "cumulative ratings equals most popular".

I made a perfectly good post showing how scheduling on one day greatly affects cumulative ratings and all you hear is crickets. There's no attempt to argue my points, all you return to is "but the cumulative ratings......"

FFS, even biassed old Masters acknowledged the cumulative ratings do not account for the AFLs scheduling disadvantages.

The average free-to-air audience for the NRL was 600,181 in 2018, compared to 307,793 for the AFL (down 13 per cent on 2017), acknowledging that the AFL has cross-over timeslots and doesn’t go free to air with the same games nationally.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-tr ... 502u1.html

Masters said nothing of the sort ya first class dill!!! He merely stated the facts of AFL scheduling. Read the headline of the article: NRL TRUMPS AFL IN TV RATINGS WAR. There's ya story pal.

When you have to distort facts and tell lies you have lost the argument. And you lost this argument a long long time ago.

And don't come back with ya lame, 'you won't argue my points' BS. This issue has been argued, debated, hashed, re-hashed and scrutinised over and over day after day week after week with the same BS every time.

If you have short term memory problems just print out some of the posts about this and stick it on ya fridge. And every time you get the urge to post about it AGAIN read the posts and don't bother.

What this site needs is for issues to be shut down when they have been done to death. You are never going to believe reality and I am never going to believe your fantasy. End of story. Close down this never ending goldfish bowl argument. 2018 is over. It's run and won. 2019 is another year.

I even quoted him you loon What do you think this meant? "acknowledging that the AFL has cross-over timeslots and doesn’t go free to air with the same games nationally".

The topic is ongoing and 2019 will be the same. Cumulative figures are only relevant to Masters and his followers. No other media or sporting organisation cares if one program's ratings add up to more than another programs over an entire year. It's completely irrelevant unless their schedules are absolutely identical, which is basically never going to happen.

You've won a completely pointless and meaningless award. Well done

[AFLcrap1]

Doesn't go FTA with same games nationally .
Lol is that because they target home markets to maximise the ratings .

Lol
Excatly

[NlolRL]

Doesn't go FTA with same games nationally .
Lol is that because they target home markets to maximise the ratings .

Lol
Excatly

Either the Broncos, cowboys or storm feature in prime time FTA just about every round next year, so the NRL do the same thing.

how conveniently you miss "acknowledging the AFL has cross-over timeslots". He makes that comment to explain why the AFL average half the NRL in FTA ratings.

But if you guys want to use cumulative ratings as the only indicator of ratings superiority be my guest. Dont expect anyone else to though, because no one else does