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Suck shit basement dwellers! Any way you flogs attempt to spin it, the nrlol A distant second again! Even with the soo, internationals & & everything else nrlol, still decades behind the AFL & the gap it widening! Now with rupert on board to give the AFL all the free promotion the nrlol got for the last decade.
Lol this is why you are considered dumb .
Not plain dumb .way way dumber than that .
How can we be second when our deal is not completed yet .

Lol get help .
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AFLsforPussies wrote:
Will be interesting to see what pans out with the fox NRL deal.
The NRL have plenty of time to work out an agreement with them.
Rupert is obviously not happy at the way the NRL 9 deal was done... but he knows and everyone else knows that Rugby League fans won't keep fox if it does not have NRL games. Both need each other. The only reason I have it is for live Rugby League.

For the NRL fans without paytv it has been a big win. They get the same amount of games to watch on free to air as the AFL has.
And channel 9 has payed more for the NRL deal than Channel 7 payed for AFL.

Channel 9 NRL deal - 925 million for 5 years
Channel 7 AFL deal - 900 million for 6 years

But News Limited and AFL fans refuse to mention that. :cool:
Not quite right.

Channel 9 NRL exclusive games deal 925 million for 5 years for 4 games a week (46.5million a game per year + SOO)
Channel 9 NRL deal simulcast deal 800 million for 5 years for 4 games a week (40 million a game per year + SOO)
Channel 7 AFL deal - 900 million for 6 years for 3.5 games a week (42.9 million a game per year)

The NRL deal is only better with exclusive games and SOO. With simulcast it is worse despite the SOO games thrown in (there's an article with a quote saying that channel nine will get back 150 million if there is simulcast) On top of this Channel 9 get to show their adds on both the pay TV and the digital feed for the 4 games. It also looks like C9 have digital rights to the 4 games so they can use them (maybe even have them free) on any digital device. With no Monday night or Saturday night game (for pay TV) this has to reduce the pay TV deal in a big way even with simulcast due to the dirty feed. I like the AFL deal better from a financial point of view.
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piesman2011 wrote:
AFLsforPussies wrote:
Will be interesting to see what pans out with the fox NRL deal.
The NRL have plenty of time to work out an agreement with them.
Rupert is obviously not happy at the way the NRL 9 deal was done... but he knows and everyone else knows that Rugby League fans won't keep fox if it does not have NRL games. Both need each other. The only reason I have it is for live Rugby League.

For the NRL fans without paytv it has been a big win. They get the same amount of games to watch on free to air as the AFL has.
And channel 9 has payed more for the NRL deal than Channel 7 payed for AFL.

Channel 9 NRL deal - 925 million for 5 years
Channel 7 AFL deal - 900 million for 6 years

But News Limited and AFL fans refuse to mention that. :cool:
Not quite right.

Channel 9 NRL exclusive games deal 925 million for 5 years for 4 games a week (46.5million a game per year + SOO)
Channel 9 NRL deal simulcast deal 800 million for 5 years for 4 games a week (40 million a game per year + SOO)
Channel 7 AFL deal - 900 million for 6 years for 3.5 games a week (42.9 million a game per year)

The NRL deal is only better with exclusive games and SOO. With simulcast it is worse despite the SOO games thrown in (there's an article with a quote saying that channel nine will get back 150 million if there is simulcast) On top of this Channel 9 get to show their adds on both the pay TV and the digital feed for the 4 games. It also looks like C9 have digital rights to the 4 games so they can use them (maybe even have them free) on any digital device. With no Monday night or Saturday night game (for pay TV) this has to reduce the pay TV deal in a big way even with simulcast due to the dirty feed. I like the AFL deal better from a financial point of view.
I think you will find simulcasting is $25m a game - $100m total, Regardless, Ch 7 pays the AFL $150m a year, C9 pays the NRL $185m or, more likely $160m. The NRL receive more from Ch 9 than the AFL do from Ch 7, the number of games is not relevant.

Fox May no longer have Monday night ,but if they chose to simulcast , they get the 3 prime time slots - ie they would lose Monday night but would gain Thursday, Friday nights as well as being able to continue with there Super Saturday program.
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pussycat wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
AFLsforPussies wrote:
Will be interesting to see what pans out with the fox NRL deal.
The NRL have plenty of time to work out an agreement with them.
Rupert is obviously not happy at the way the NRL 9 deal was done... but he knows and everyone else knows that Rugby League fans won't keep fox if it does not have NRL games. Both need each other. The only reason I have it is for live Rugby League.

For the NRL fans without paytv it has been a big win. They get the same amount of games to watch on free to air as the AFL has.
And channel 9 has payed more for the NRL deal than Channel 7 payed for AFL.

Channel 9 NRL deal - 925 million for 5 years
Channel 7 AFL deal - 900 million for 6 years

But News Limited and AFL fans refuse to mention that. :cool:
Not quite right.

Channel 9 NRL exclusive games deal 925 million for 5 years for 4 games a week (46.5million a game per year + SOO)
Channel 9 NRL deal simulcast deal 800 million for 5 years for 4 games a week (40 million a game per year + SOO)
Channel 7 AFL deal - 900 million for 6 years for 3.5 games a week (42.9 million a game per year)

The NRL deal is only better with exclusive games and SOO. With simulcast it is worse despite the SOO games thrown in (there's an article with a quote saying that channel nine will get back 150 million if there is simulcast) On top of this Channel 9 get to show their adds on both the pay TV and the digital feed for the 4 games. It also looks like C9 have digital rights to the 4 games so they can use them (maybe even have them free) on any digital device. With no Monday night or Saturday night game (for pay TV) this has to reduce the pay TV deal in a big way even with simulcast due to the dirty feed. I like the AFL deal better from a financial point of view.
I think you will find simulcasting is $25m a game - $100m total . Fox May no longer have Monday night ,but they chose to simulcast , they get the 3 prime time slots - ie they would lose Monday night but would now have Thursday, Friday nights as well as being able to continue with there Super Saturday program.
I read close to 30 million per game which is about 120 million. I was wrong when I posted 150 million. So it's somewhere between 805-825 million (difference between 100-120 million) which is 40.25 to 41.25 million per game still less then the AFL c7 deal despite SOO being thrown in. Still should be a good overall deal for the NRL.
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AFLcrap1 wrote:
leagueiscrap wrote:
Suck shit basement dwellers! Any way you flogs attempt to spin it, the nrlol A distant second again! Even with the soo, internationals & & everything else nrlol, still decades behind the AFL & the gap it widening! Now with rupert on board to give the AFL all the free promotion the nrlol got for the last decade.
Lol this is why you are considered dumb .
Not plain dumb .way way dumber than that .
How can we be second when our deal is not completed yet .

Lol get help .
Get Cuzzy to help .hes your new buddy .
You really think your some intellectual giant don't you? Mate I seriously doubt you know how to do up shoe laces you are so pig headed no wonder you live in Queensland!
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Swans4ever wrote:
AFLcrap1 wrote:
leagueiscrap wrote:
Suck shit basement dwellers! Any way you flogs attempt to spin it, the nrlol A distant second again! Even with the soo, internationals & & everything else nrlol, still decades behind the AFL & the gap it widening! Now with rupert on board to give the AFL all the free promotion the nrlol got for the last decade.
Lol this is why you are considered dumb .
Not plain dumb .way way dumber than that .
How can we be second when our deal is not completed yet .

Lol get help .
Get Cuzzy to help .hes your new buddy .
You really think your some intellectual giant don't you? Mate I seriously doubt you know how to do up shoe laces you are so pig headed no wonder you live in Queensland!
Lol .
You claimed the same as dumbo did .
No wonder you don't want to discuss what you or him claimed .
So rant on ,it's hilarious .

& as for intellectual .
Lol
Lol

Tell me how you can say the AFL got a better deal & the NRL was second ....& in your words that's a FACT.

How can that be when we haven't completed our deal .
Anyone with an IQ above a pot plant knows that you can only declare a winner after a race is over .

You are stupid .
Anyone who posts the same nonsense as dumbo is fucking beyond stupid .
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AFLcrap1 wrote:
Swans4ever wrote:
AFLcrap1 wrote:
leagueiscrap wrote:
Suck shit basement dwellers! Any way you flogs attempt to spin it, the nrlol A distant second again! Even with the soo, internationals & & everything else nrlol, still decades behind the AFL & the gap it widening! Now with rupert on board to give the AFL all the free promotion the nrlol got for the last decade.
Lol this is why you are considered dumb .
Not plain dumb .way way dumber than that .
How can we be second when our deal is not completed yet .

Lol get help .
Get Cuzzy to help .hes your new buddy .
You really think your some intellectual giant don't you? Mate I seriously doubt you know how to do up shoe laces you are so pig headed no wonder you live in Queensland!
Lol .
You claimed the same as dumbo did .
No wonder you don't want to discuss what you or him claimed .
So rant on ,it's hilarious .

& as for intellectual .
Lol
Lol

Tell me how you can say the AFL got a better deal & the NRL was second ....& in your words that's a FACT.

How can that be when we haven't completed our deal .
Anyone with an IQ above a pot plant knows that you can only declare a winner after a race is over .

You are stupid .
Anyone who posts the same nonsense as dumbo is fucking beyond stupid .
Ok the ch 9 deal incorporates SOO something the NRL themselves valued at 500 mil (remember AFL has that means for the remaining NRL season finale and GF that is valued at 423 mil which means the NRL comp is valued at 813 k per game (520 games over 5 years) new AFL deal is 840 mil (60 mil contra advertising) for 462 games of AFL footy that equates to 1.8 mil per game. Do the maths yourself dickhead either way the NRL received a deal that undervalues the NRL and has what's left over will not get the same as the AFL!
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piesman2011 wrote:
pussycat wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
AFLsforPussies wrote:
Will be interesting to see what pans out with the fox NRL deal.
The NRL have plenty of time to work out an agreement with them.
Rupert is obviously not happy at the way the NRL 9 deal was done... but he knows and everyone else knows that Rugby League fans won't keep fox if it does not have NRL games. Both need each other. The only reason I have it is for live Rugby League.

For the NRL fans without paytv it has been a big win. They get the same amount of games to watch on free to air as the AFL has.
And channel 9 has payed more for the NRL deal than Channel 7 payed for AFL.

Channel 9 NRL deal - 925 million for 5 years
Channel 7 AFL deal - 900 million for 6 years

But News Limited and AFL fans refuse to mention that. :cool:
Not quite right.

Channel 9 NRL exclusive games deal 925 million for 5 years for 4 games a week (46.5million a game per year + SOO)
Channel 9 NRL deal simulcast deal 800 million for 5 years for 4 games a week (40 million a game per year + SOO)
Channel 7 AFL deal - 900 million for 6 years for 3.5 games a week (42.9 million a game per year)

The NRL deal is only better with exclusive games and SOO. With simulcast it is worse despite the SOO games thrown in (there's an article with a quote saying that channel nine will get back 150 million if there is simulcast) On top of this Channel 9 get to show their adds on both the pay TV and the digital feed for the 4 games. It also looks like C9 have digital rights to the 4 games so they can use them (maybe even have them free) on any digital device. With no Monday night or Saturday night game (for pay TV) this has to reduce the pay TV deal in a big way even with simulcast due to the dirty feed. I like the AFL deal better from a financial point of view.
I think you will find simulcasting is $25m a game - $100m total . Fox May no longer have Monday night ,but they chose to simulcast , they get the 3 prime time slots - ie they would lose Monday night but would now have Thursday, Friday nights as well as being able to continue with there Super Saturday program.
I read close to 30 million per game which is about 120 million. I was wrong when I posted 150 million. So it's somewhere between 805-825 million (difference between 100-120 million) which is 40.25 to 41.25 million per game still less then the AFL c7 deal despite SOO being thrown in. Still should be a good overall deal for the NRL.
The figures I used was $800m a year from Ch9 , So the FTA deal sees the NRL getting $10m , or slightly more, a year than the AFL on FTA - run and won!

Fox also gets all finals matches - bar the GF, and all Rep. matches - bar Origin.

Murdoch is already losing subscriptions he doesn't want to lose any more.

I can already see Foxs Sales pitch, , Foxtel, the only place were you can see all AFL matches and all NRL matches live every week'.
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Swans4ever wrote:
AFLcrap1 wrote:
Swans4ever wrote:
AFLcrap1 wrote:
leagueiscrap wrote:
Suck shit basement dwellers! Any way you flogs attempt to spin it, the nrlol A distant second again! Even with the soo, internationals & & everything else nrlol, still decades behind the AFL & the gap it widening! Now with rupert on board to give the AFL all the free promotion the nrlol got for the last decade.
Lol this is why you are considered dumb .
Not plain dumb .way way dumber than that .
How can we be second when our deal is not completed yet .

Lol get help .
Get Cuzzy to help .hes your new buddy .
You really think your some intellectual giant don't you? Mate I seriously doubt you know how to do up shoe laces you are so pig headed no wonder you live in Queensland!
Lol .
You claimed the same as dumbo did .
No wonder you don't want to discuss what you or him claimed .
So rant on ,it's hilarious .

& as for intellectual .
Lol
Lol

Tell me how you can say the AFL got a better deal & the NRL was second ....& in your words that's a FACT.

How can that be when we haven't completed our deal .
Anyone with an IQ above a pot plant knows that you can only declare a winner after a race is over .

You are stupid .
Anyone who posts the same nonsense as dumbo is fucking beyond stupid .
Ok the ch 9 deal incorporates SOO something the NRL themselves valued at 500 mil (remember AFL has that means for the remaining NRL season finale and GF that is valued at 423 mil which means the NRL comp is valued at 813 k per game (520 games over 5 years) new AFL deal is 840 mil (60 mil contra advertising) for 462 games of AFL footy that equates to 1.8 mil per game. Do the maths yourself dickhead either way the NRL received a deal that undervalues the NRL and has what's left over will not get the same as the AFL!
That $500m figure is laughable. It would mean Ch9 would need to sell almost 25 000 adds per match just to break even .
The number of games has nothing to do with it. They NRL (assuming Fox chose to simulcast) get $160m from Ch9, The AFL get $150m a year from CH7 - FTA has been Run and Won, yet another gold medal to the NRL! :thumbleft: :cheers:
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Fox subscribers are up. Not down.
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Foxtel reached a record 2.8 million subscribers in the year ended June, but full-year profit slid 8 per cent after it slashed prices and launched streaming and broadband services.
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They are combining figures from there steaming service, Presto, with Foxtel subscribers to make up that number.

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Beat me to it .
Padding the figures
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Swans4ever wrote:
AFLcrap1 wrote:
Swans4ever wrote:
AFLcrap1 wrote:
leagueiscrap wrote:
Suck shit basement dwellers! Any way you flogs attempt to spin it, the nrlol A distant second again! Even with the soo, internationals & & everything else nrlol, still decades behind the AFL & the gap it widening! Now with rupert on board to give the AFL all the free promotion the nrlol got for the last decade.
Lol this is why you are considered dumb .
Not plain dumb .way way dumber than that .
How can we be second when our deal is not completed yet .

Lol get help .
Get Cuzzy to help .hes your new buddy .
You really think your some intellectual giant don't you? Mate I seriously doubt you know how to do up shoe laces you are so pig headed no wonder you live in Queensland!
Lol .
You claimed the same as dumbo did .
No wonder you don't want to discuss what you or him claimed .
So rant on ,it's hilarious .

& as for intellectual .
Lol
Lol

Tell me how you can say the AFL got a better deal & the NRL was second ....& in your words that's a FACT.

How can that be when we haven't completed our deal .
Anyone with an IQ above a pot plant knows that you can only declare a winner after a race is over .

You are stupid .
Anyone who posts the same nonsense as dumbo is fucking beyond stupid .
Ok the ch 9 deal incorporates SOO something the NRL themselves valued at 500 mil (remember AFL has that means for the remaining NRL season finale and GF that is valued at 423 mil which means the NRL comp is valued at 813 k per game (520 games over 5 years) new AFL deal is 840 mil (60 mil contra advertising) for 462 games of AFL footy that equates to 1.8 mil per game. Do the maths yourself dickhead either way the NRL received a deal that undervalues the NRL and has what's left over will not get the same as the AFL!
Lol so that's your opinion .good
Most fans of AFL & RL have an opinion .
But your opinion has nothing to do with what you claimed as fact .
Are you really that stupid .
If you had stated that currently the AFL deal is huge & the NRL has catching up to do .....fine I agree .
If you said in y our opinion you didn't think that could happen ....fine that's your opinion .

But to state what you did was a lie ..
Do you declare a Winner in a cricket game when one side has racked up a score & the other side isn't halfway through their innings ....you probably would say yes that's a fact .
In cycling ,do you declare a time trial winner ,when the other cyclist is halfway through .
There is no result yet .when the NRL finalise we will compare .
But until then you lied ,& no amount of waffling on & ranting can change that .
You're full of shit
How can you not see how fuckng stupid your post was .
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lol 800 million for simulcasting.
lol

So the NRL give Fox an extra 3 games maybe 4 extra games with expansion and Piesman thinks the deal only improves from 550million 5 years ago to 800million...... :lol: :lol:

Someone get Piesman a calculator.

If Fox simulcast all 8 games possibly 9 with expansion, the Fox deal will be worth in excess of 1billion over 5 years.

Add in Digital and NZ and International rights and the AFL and NRL deals will be very similar on annual basis.
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The_Wookie wrote:
Fox simulcasting with nines ads - if they take the option - on it isnt going to be anywhere near as valuable as you think.

Fox getting 9 games compared to 5 atm

Mate the largest ratings sport on Fox nearly doubling its content and add the competition of online streaming companies.

Foxtels model does not work without sport, sport over the last 5 years has become even more valuable to Pay TV.


If the NRL does go for a 2nd Brisbane team, expect C9 to pay more then the current 925million. Gyngal has said many times that a 2nd Brisbane team is worth 200million to the broadcast deal because it allows a QLD - NSW matchup every night and the rating foo NRL are always large when its QLD vs NSW teams playing on FTA.


1billion is a certainty with this in mind.
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