The Truth is a bitter pill to swallow

[King-Eliagh]

That first video. Four driving tackles! Just awesome evidence against your shocking argumentation in here TLPG.

I urge you to start treating me with more respect, especially regarding my player status because as you know, players know lots about the game, considerably more than umpires.

[TLPG]

First video - Deniis Commetti NEVER said "drives him into ground" and the only tackle that did do that was in the back and should have been penalised and wasn't (poor umpiring). The tackle that netted the free kick was no such thing and it was paid for illegal disposal.

Second video - The commentator was right. The head was jammed down and it should have been penalised.

I will contact the club that I umpired yesterday as the game was videod and see if I can get a copy. I will also contact the league about the grand final I umpired in 2009.

[King-Eliagh]

Really? Video footage? Thats great but you know im not serious about that right? I'm just laughing because I clearly know more about the rules of tackling than you do. Driving into the ground is displayed in all four in a row of those tackles in the first vid, not one of which were penalised, in fact the penalty went to the tackler. Hence my tackling style is actually considered good play. :D

I dont care whether you umpire or not TLPG. I just want you to understand where I'm coming from buddy-o Gottit?

[TLPG]

I knew where you were coming from, and it's how I know you have no idea what you were talking about. You said there were four driving tackles in the first video alone. There was only one and it should have been penalised because it was in the back. The last one was not, and the free kick to the tackler was for illegal disposal.

Seeing as you don't even know what driving into the turf actually means (the second video was a better idea of it and I already explained that) I am now doubting your comprehension abilities - although I am prepared to defer to your clear hatred of AFL and love of thugby as the explanation for this poor brain processing.

[King-Eliagh]

The second video tackle was also legal "play on" called the umpy loud and clear.

Look TLPG driving a player into the ground is part and parcel of almost every tackle, whether you like it or not. My tackling is just like those four tackles in the vid, knock em into the ground and make em stay there. You have referred to as many forms of illegal tackling as your little noggin could muster, problem is, i never referred to one of them in my tackling style. Hence you're looking very silly in this debate, while I'm looking pretty.

Now please, show some respect, you've never seen me tackle and clearly have little idea how it feels to drive someone into the ground in a tackle (as you've stated you never played) so I think you're really coming into this one ill equipped. Better luck next time though eh?

[TLPG]

You're the one not showing respect - or rather knowledge. I told you - three of the four tackles in the first video did NOT drive the player into the ground. The one that did should have been penalised for in the back and it wasn't. Poor umpiring decision - they happen. Your comment on the second video is irrelevant. That sort of tackle has to be stopped because it is dangerous.

You are the one looking silly in this debate because I have proven multiple times that you don't know what you are talking about. You're the one who is ill equipped, because you have never played the game (or umpired it like I have and am) and your translation of a tackle is thugby orientated and therefore out of bounds in the great game of football.

Your desperate attempts to be credible are failing badly, and deep down you know it.

[King-Eliagh]

No i told you, all of the tackles in the first vid showed players driving the tacklee into the ground. I told you biatch. Now deal with it.

Blind freddy could watch that vid and see all players have been driven into the ground, literally. You need to show more respect to the great players of our game, that's including me . If you allow yourself you'll find players like me can teach you a lot about the game and you'll be a better umpire for it TLPG. Just turn that frown upside down and open that closed mind and you'll make leaps and bounds listening to me. Go on, just give it a shot cowboy

[TLPG]

You're the one with the closed mind. If you told anyone in my position or any other genuine footy follower that three of those four tackles drove the player into the ground you'd be laughed at! You deal with that, Blind Freddy!

[King-Eliagh]

Sp marngrook has a different description for being driven into the turf than the rest of the world? Enlighten me my friend as you know. Explain your (and the marngrook?) description of being driven into the turf TLPG.

[TLPG]

Taken to the ground with considerable force causing hard contact with the ground. That is the WORLD's description, not what you think it is Blind Freddy.

And that's my last word on the matter.

[King-Eliagh]

Haha well thats unfortunate because your last word was a bad one there TLPG. So there is no clear specific marngrook term for being driven into the ground.

Please review the video footage again. I would enjoy seeing you getting tackled in any of the four tackles and get up saying there wasnt

considerable force which caused hard contact with the ground

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The unfortunate thing is you've never been tackled so essentially you dont know what is and what is not a hard tackle, which I'm now certain causes you to make umpiring mistakes. Ofcourse you can tackle someone harder than in these four tackles but they are clearly tackles where the player is

driven into the ground

, as I like to do :D , and clearly completely legal in the AFL comp :D :D


Now comon TLPG, finish on a good note. Acknowledge my wisdom and learn from it to improve your umpiring

[piesman2011]

Hows the footy going KE? How have you been playing? Has anything interesting happened?

[King-Eliagh]

Been playing well, for when I have been playing piesman thanks. Have had a few niggling injuries which have really been annoying but apart from that I'm pretty chuffed to be out there playing at a good standard.

I know this thread is meant for me to detail my exploits on the field and i'll give a greater summary when i get time but what do you think about this tackling debate piesman?

[Beaussie]

When was the last time you played KE? Hmm...

[King-Eliagh]

When was the last time you played KE? Hmm...

Ahh beaussie, bout time you showed yourself in this thread. A man who knows I play the great game and knows when i last played. So i find it interesting you ask beaussie. A few weeks ago was my last match. As i said niggling injuries.