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Raiderdave wrote: wow
this is bad news for the VFL

the NRL is not going to make the same mistake they did by ruining their comp & starting up 2 new waste of space teams that will bleed the coffers dry for decades
no .... as the article points out
new teams if not done properly , add nothing & in fact when they're done poorly , bring down the comp.... look at the thuns & midgits for an example
ruining the VFL .. because the VFL F 'd up
that mistake will take ten years to just get the rest of the comp back to an even keel ... these 2 teams however will be sucking on VFL funds a long time after this
along with many others who will be worse off as well .... VFL yep...its dying

no mill stones around our necks though :wink: .... just record TV deal after record TV deal to spend on our existing 16 clubs & the development of our game
nah
the best news for the VFL would have been we were going to expand & tie up a lot of our new found funds to do it
we're now going to instead use these funds to run their silly little game out of NSW & QLD ..... for good :wink:
Thing is, expansion is always very hard and financially draining in the short term, but you have to start some time. It will take a few more years untill the AFL is back to normal operations, and probably another 8 or so years before the two new franchises will be able to stand on their own two feet. It doesn't matter when the nRL expands, whether now or in ten years time, the initial negative impact and cost will be the same. By biting the bullet and expanding now, the AFL will be settled, stronger, and much bigger than it already is by the time the nRL decides to think about maybe considering expanding perhaps. Expanding the AFL into Sydney and Brisbane all those decades ago was seen as folly back then, and both clubs went broke several times. The Swans started with average crowds of 3k, and the Bears not much better, but we are now the biggets league in the land because we bit the bullet, weathered the short term pain, focused on the long-term growth of the sport, and we'll do so again. There are over 50 NSW players on AFL lists, and over 50 QLD players on AFL lists, and that number will only grow over the next 20 years with double the teams in those states. The Suns and Giants crowds haven't been good enough by AFL standards, and will grow, but they've been competitive against local nRL rivals (hell the Suns even beat the Titans for attendance in their first year). Those kids who get visits in schools and get given free tickets will grow up with the expansion teams over the next 10 years, all while the nRL waits on expansion, choosing instead to focus their funds on deadbeat teams in Sydney.

NRL: focused on keeping its head above water.
AFL: short term pain for long term gain.
blah blah blah ..... this rigged .. manipulated .. contrived sport still has to allow the Swines & Paddle pop lions .. allowances in the salary cap to keep them competitive & win titles that are tainted & in comps of a low standard.
after 30 F'ing years , 4 GF appearances whilst in Sydney .. 14 finals campaigns in the last 17 years .. they still get unfair advantages :lol: :lol: :lol: wot a crock
50 NSW kids on VFL lists ...but only about 4 from anywhere north of Holbrook
the 50 from QLD .. their parents hailing from somewhere in the Sthn States

the other 2 new basket cases need RL stars to make them rellavent ... after 30 years ... apart from ex pats theres still no rusted on support for this Victorian trash
no more people are watching your sport in NSW & QLD with 4 teams then when they had 2 8-[
in fact 360,000 less people watched the VFL this year .. but it had 22 extra games

but Vlad tells brain washed morons like you its all a long term plan & you dopes .. lap it up :lol: :lol:
brain dead cultists

VFL expansion will send the VFL broke
& good riddance to the egotistical sh.it bags when it does :wink:


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The lions and swans started slowly and after 20-30 years are established teams. The AFL have the funds to follow these new teams through and have set them up with excellent stadium arrangements.

Why I'm bothering to make a logical reply to you I have no idea! :roll:


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Chairman of the Australian Rugby League Commission John Grant talks to Ipswich Mayor Paul Pisasale about the city’s bid to enter the NRL.

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LEAGUE boss John Grant has crash-tackled Ipswich's bid to have a team in the National Rugby League (NRL) competition.

The Australian Rugby League Commission chairman said no new team would be admitted to the competition for at least the next five years, the life of the recently signed broadcast deal.

Mr Grant said the expansion of the competition, whcih some had hoped could come as soon as 2015, might be as far away as 10 years
.

Other bids for a new team came from Central Queensland, Brisbane, the NSW Central Coast and Perth.

David Gallop was an advocate for the Western Corridor bid including Ipswich when he was the chief executive of the NRL.

But Mr Gallop resigned as chief executive of the new Australian Rugby League Commission in June, four months into his contract.

Speaking exclusively to the QT, Mr Grant said when the commission took over from the NRL it found very work little had been done about expansion.

He said there had been no analysis of the effect on the game and no timeline for bringing a new team into the competition.

Negotiations for the new broadcast deal between the ARL, Channel Nine and Foxtel revealed no financial benefit from a new team, he said.

"One of the considerations we had when it came to the new broadcast licence was whether there was any additional value of an additional game," Mr Grant said. "We've got eight games a weekend now, with an extra team there would be nine games.

"The bottom line is they didn't see any value in an additional game. So where we are now is that as a result of the broadcast rights negotiations, there's no justification for expansion.

"If you don't have any value in an additional game you have to find funds from somewhere else."

He said it could take up to 10 years for a consortium to generate sustainable backing to run and support a team in the NRL.

Mayor Paul Pisasale was buoyant about Mr Grant's announcement, saying it gave Ipswich's bid a starting point.

"It's good because we know where we stand and we know what we have to do to reach our goal," the Mayor said.

"We were told by David Gallop that there was a bid and we took it very seriously not only for the city but for young people coming through wanting to play rugby league and for the whole corridor from Toowoomba right through."

He said the first step in getting a bid ready to be admitted into the competition was developing a partnership with an NRL club.

"What we're doing is getting processes in place where young people in Ipswich can go through and play in the NRL," he said.

"So we're negotiating with the Broncos to see whether they are prepared to sign a MOU (memorandum of understanding) with the city, with the junior rugby league, the IRL and the Jets."

Western Corridor bid chief Steven Johnson was disappointed the commission hadn't told him but took the decision in his stride.

"Obviously when David Gallop was head of the NRL he had a different view of expansion to the commission," Mr Johnson said.

"But we can't change their mind and we wouldn't want to. We'll have to be patient and wait our time. We're confident when the expansion comes through we'll be in a position to be first chosen."

He supported Ipswich forming a partnership with an NRL club such as the Broncos, saying the Mayor's idea was "not inconsistent with our vision and our model".

"We'd be happy to partner with any club that shares our vision," he said. "Speaking as chairman of Ipswich Jets, we need a pathway to the NRL through the Ipswich Junior Rugby League, the IRL and the Ipswich Jets."

The big league

The Australian Rugby League Commission was formed in February as the new governing body of rugby league.

John Grant was named chairman and former NRL chief executive David Gallop was to continue in a similar role with Mr Grant and seven other commission members.
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So much for another of Raiderdopes predictions :| :lol:
The ARLC have obviously taken note of the abysmal tv ratings in Adelaide and Perth. Bout time they woke up to themselves and realised expansion doesn't work for Rugby League. Been there and failed miserably at that last time they tried. In the present, look no further than the basketcase that is the Melbourne Storm. Years of success and premiership victories and still can't sellout a preliminary final in a tiny 30k stadium in sports mad Melbourne despite no AFL opposition. :oops: :oops: :oops:


"One in every 24 Australians is now a member of an AFL club, a sign that the national reach of Australian football has never been greater," League CEO Gillon McLachlan said.
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Xman wrote:The lions and swans started slowly and after 20-30 years are established teams. The AFL have the funds to follow these new teams through and have set them up with excellent stadium arrangements.

Why I'm bothering to make a logical reply to you I have no idea! :roll:

fact is they both have very limited support .. still.. after 30 years & with plenty of success .. they still struggle financially
they are thin & fragile
thats what you've spent over a billion dollars on in these last 30 years ... 2 sides that STILL only exist with manipulation of the rest of the comp to its detriment

you have 4 sides in this boat now
& in 30 years time
nothing much will have changed

our code does not need this type of validation as its proven all it costs you is your games integrity
we have SOO
we have internationalism

our code is not or one dimensional .. & limited to a rather boring lop sided comp ...that is lacking in quality & getting worse
holding up 2 sides that are not up to scratch ... not even close
& about 4 more barely any better... :wink:


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The swans and lions are self sufficient financially. The lions have made minor losses recently but that's mainly to do with brisbanes economy and their on field failures. They're now starting to rise again.

But, expansion costs money and the afl have budgeted for it. As others have said, the NRL are flat out keeping their homeland teams afloat. #-o


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Raiderdave wrote:fact is they both have very limited support .. still.. after 30 years & with plenty of success .. they still struggle financially
they are thin & fragile
thats what you've spent over a billion dollars on in these last 30 years ... 2 sides that STILL only exist with manipulation of the rest of the comp to its detriment

you have 4 sides in this boat now
& in 30 years time
nothing much will have changed

our code does not need this type of validation as its proven all it costs you is your games integrity
we have SOO
we have internationalism

our code is not or one dimensional .. & limited to a rather boring lop sided comp ...that is lacking in quality & getting worse
holding up 2 sides that are not up to scratch ... not even close
& about 4 more barely any better... :wink:
1) Limited support? The Swans have been the highest drawing team of all codes in sydney for 18 YEARS IN A ROW. The Storm, by comparison, haven't had a higher average attendance than a single victorian AFL team in their history. Not even North!
2) a billion dollars? You can't be serious.
3) Your code needs CONSTANT validation. It's always measuring itself against big brother. The nRL press release after the GF re: ratings was hilarious. They had to use the American term 'Eastern Seaboard' to qualify supremacy.
4) Rugby League is an offside sport, by its very nature it's one dimentional ;)
5) Lopsided? This was one of the closest finals series in years. GWS and GC are fielding teams of rookies, it was always going to take a few years to even out. They both went for a medium-term shot at a premiership rather than short term strength in their recruiting. Suns will play in a GF before the Titans. Assuming the Titans survive past 2013. Bookmark it.
6) Eeels and Penrith were great teams this year aye? Nothing lopsided about nRL games featuring the Eels and Panthers. Any lopsided games in the AFL have been caused by expansion, either directly in games involving GWS or GC, or indirectly by featuring teams that were hurt by the compromised draft/expansion trades (Port, Melbs, WB). What's the nRL's excuse?


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Xman wrote:The swans and lions are self sufficient financially. The lions have made minor losses recently but that's mainly to do with brisbanes economy and their on field failures. They're now starting to rise again.

But, expansion costs money and the afl have budgeted for it. As others have said, the NRL are flat out keeping their homeland teams afloat. #-o
all I'm reading is but but but
self sufficient ?
minor losses ??.... :lol: :lol:
the Lions have lost 10 Million in the last 3 years
& have required assistance just to continue in the VFL .....

the Swines had to get assurances they'd be backed by the VFL only 2 years ago... so bad was their financial situation


the thuns & midgits make the above 2 look like they're well run 8-[
& these 4 are just the tip of the ice berg as most of the VFL's clubs struggle with money
Port .. North ... the Western Bulldogs ... all technically insolvent as would the 4 in NSW & QLD all be as well

jesus you lot just don't live in the real world do you
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Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:The swans and lions are self sufficient financially. The lions have made minor losses recently but that's mainly to do with brisbanes economy and their on field failures. They're now starting to rise again.

But, expansion costs money and the afl have budgeted for it. As others have said, the NRL are flat out keeping their homeland teams afloat. #-o
all I'm reading is but but but
self sufficient ?
minor losses ??.... :lol: :lol:
the Lions have lost 10 Million in the last 3 years
& have required assistance just to continue in the VFL .....

the Swines had to get assurances they'd be backed by the VFL only 2 years ago... so bad was their financial situation


the thuns & midgits make the above 2 look like they're well run 8-[
& these 4 are just the tip of the ice berg as most of the VFL's clubs struggle with money
Port .. North ... the Western Bulldogs ... all technically insolvent as would the 4 in NSW & QLD all be as well

jesus you lot just don't live in the real world do you
when will you wake up [-X [-X [-X
Got ANY proof for this horse shite? :lol:


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Drac wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:fact is they both have very limited support .. still.. after 30 years & with plenty of success .. they still struggle financially
they are thin & fragile
thats what you've spent over a billion dollars on in these last 30 years ... 2 sides that STILL only exist with manipulation of the rest of the comp to its detriment

you have 4 sides in this boat now
& in 30 years time
nothing much will have changed

our code does not need this type of validation as its proven all it costs you is your games integrity
we have SOO
we have internationalism

our code is not or one dimensional .. & limited to a rather boring lop sided comp ...that is lacking in quality & getting worse
holding up 2 sides that are not up to scratch ... not even close
& about 4 more barely any better... :wink:
1) Limited support? The Swans have been the highest drawing team of all codes in sydney for 18 YEARS IN A ROW. The Storm, by comparison, haven't had a higher average attendance than a single victorian AFL team in their history. Not even North!
2) a billion dollars? You can't be serious.
3) Your code needs CONSTANT validation. It's always measuring itself against big brother. The nRL press release after the GF re: ratings was hilarious. They had to use the American term 'Eastern Seaboard' to qualify supremacy.
4) Rugby League is an offside sport, by its very nature it's one dimentional ;)
5) Lopsided? This was one of the closest finals series in years. GWS and GC are fielding teams of rookies, it was always going to take a few years to even out. They both went for a medium-term shot at a premiership rather than short term strength in their recruiting. Suns will play in a GF before the Titans. Assuming the Titans survive past 2013. Bookmark it.
6) Eeels and Penrith were great teams this year aye? Nothing lopsided about nRL games featuring the Eels and Panthers. Any lopsided games in the AFL have been caused by expansion, either directly in games involving GWS or GC, or indirectly by featuring teams that were hurt by the compromised draft/expansion trades (Port, Melbs, WB). What's the nRL's excuse?
drac .. get your hand off yr knob ... or you'll pull it off completely :lol: :lol:
our bottom 5 clubs ( 33% of our comp) had 40 wins between them in 2012... an average of 8 a team
the VFL's bottom 6 ( including 4 established clubs ) had just 29... an average of less then 5 wins

the gap in the haves & have nots has never been greater in the VFL & expansion has diluted this comp into a lop sided abortion
thats why 360,000 abandoned it in 2012
thats why another 360,000 will again in 2013.... its just that bloody awful :wink:


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Raiderdave wrote:
Drac wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:fact is they both have very limited support .. still.. after 30 years & with plenty of success .. they still struggle financially
they are thin & fragile
thats what you've spent over a billion dollars on in these last 30 years ... 2 sides that STILL only exist with manipulation of the rest of the comp to its detriment

you have 4 sides in this boat now
& in 30 years time
nothing much will have changed

our code does not need this type of validation as its proven all it costs you is your games integrity
we have SOO
we have internationalism

our code is not or one dimensional .. & limited to a rather boring lop sided comp ...that is lacking in quality & getting worse
holding up 2 sides that are not up to scratch ... not even close
& about 4 more barely any better... :wink:
1) Limited support? The Swans have been the highest drawing team of all codes in sydney for 18 YEARS IN A ROW. The Storm, by comparison, haven't had a higher average attendance than a single victorian AFL team in their history. Not even North!
2) a billion dollars? You can't be serious.
3) Your code needs CONSTANT validation. It's always measuring itself against big brother. The nRL press release after the GF re: ratings was hilarious. They had to use the American term 'Eastern Seaboard' to qualify supremacy.
4) Rugby League is an offside sport, by its very nature it's one dimentional ;)
5) Lopsided? This was one of the closest finals series in years. GWS and GC are fielding teams of rookies, it was always going to take a few years to even out. They both went for a medium-term shot at a premiership rather than short term strength in their recruiting. Suns will play in a GF before the Titans. Assuming the Titans survive past 2013. Bookmark it.
6) Eeels and Penrith were great teams this year aye? Nothing lopsided about nRL games featuring the Eels and Panthers. Any lopsided games in the AFL have been caused by expansion, either directly in games involving GWS or GC, or indirectly by featuring teams that were hurt by the compromised draft/expansion trades (Port, Melbs, WB). What's the nRL's excuse?
drac .. get your hand off yr knob ... or you'll pull it off completely :lol: :lol:
our bottom 5 clubs ( 33% of our comp) had 40 wins between them in 2012... an average of 8 a team
the VFL's bottom 6 ( including 4 established clubs ) had just 29... an average of less then 5 wins

the gap in the haves & have nots has never been greater in the VFL & expansion has diluted this comp into a lop sided abortion
thats why 360,000 abandoned it in 2012
thats why another 360,000 will again in 2013.... its just that bloody awful :wink:
You literally just proved my point. I'd insult you by calling you a name, but based on your use of emoticons and the way you structure your sentences and frame your arguments, i'm pretty sure you have a cognitive disability.

As I said, our excuse for having teams at the bottom of the ladder suck more than usual is expansion. The nRL (which i'm now going to start calling the NSWRL) hasn't expanded, and has an established team down the bottom of its ladder with 6 wins (NSWRL teams play more games than their AFL counterparts). Melbourne had 4 wins, lost Tom Scully to GWS, and after bottoming out last year, didn't pick up any decent draft picks because they went to GWS. Parra, has no such excuse.

In a couple of years the competition will return to something approximating normal. There'll still be teams down the bottom of the ladder, but they'll be more competitive than they are now. It's the short term pain we had to have. But the NSWRL will still be stuck with the same problem; not enough talent - both in players and coaches - to spread around.

Given that NSWRL attendances have been stagnant since 2005, you'd better pray that the AFL loses 360,000 people every year, as it's the only way you're going to catch up. But don't worry about us, we've new stadiums being built in Adelaide (50k) and Perth (60k). But thanks for your concern :cool:


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Gee those ratings for the Test in Adelaide and Perth, with the timeslot all to themselves, suggest to me that Perth and Adelaide are SCREAMING for a NSWRL side.


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Chairman of the Australian Rugby League Commission John Grant talks to Ipswich Mayor Paul Pisasale about the city’s bid to enter the NRL.

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LEAGUE boss John Grant has crash-tackled Ipswich's bid to have a team in the National Rugby League (NRL) competition.

The Australian Rugby League Commission chairman said no new team would be admitted to the competition for at least the next five years, the life of the recently signed broadcast deal.

Mr Grant said the expansion of the competition, whcih some had hoped could come as soon as 2015, might be as far away as 10 years
.

Other bids for a new team came from Central Queensland, Brisbane, the NSW Central Coast and Perth.

David Gallop was an advocate for the Western Corridor bid including Ipswich when he was the chief executive of the NRL.

But Mr Gallop resigned as chief executive of the new Australian Rugby League Commission in June, four months into his contract.

Speaking exclusively to the QT, Mr Grant said when the commission took over from the NRL it found very work little had been done about expansion.

He said there had been no analysis of the effect on the game and no timeline for bringing a new team into the competition.

Negotiations for the new broadcast deal between the ARL, Channel Nine and Foxtel revealed no financial benefit from a new team, he said.

"One of the considerations we had when it came to the new broadcast licence was whether there was any additional value of an additional game," Mr Grant said. "We've got eight games a weekend now, with an extra team there would be nine games.

"The bottom line is they didn't see any value in an additional game. So where we are now is that as a result of the broadcast rights negotiations, there's no justification for expansion.

"If you don't have any value in an additional game you have to find funds from somewhere else."

He said it could take up to 10 years for a consortium to generate sustainable backing to run and support a team in the NRL.

Mayor Paul Pisasale was buoyant about Mr Grant's announcement, saying it gave Ipswich's bid a starting point.

"It's good because we know where we stand and we know what we have to do to reach our goal," the Mayor said.

"We were told by David Gallop that there was a bid and we took it very seriously not only for the city but for young people coming through wanting to play rugby league and for the whole corridor from Toowoomba right through."

He said the first step in getting a bid ready to be admitted into the competition was developing a partnership with an NRL club.

"What we're doing is getting processes in place where young people in Ipswich can go through and play in the NRL," he said.

"So we're negotiating with the Broncos to see whether they are prepared to sign a MOU (memorandum of understanding) with the city, with the junior rugby league, the IRL and the Jets."

Western Corridor bid chief Steven Johnson was disappointed the commission hadn't told him but took the decision in his stride.

"Obviously when David Gallop was head of the NRL he had a different view of expansion to the commission," Mr Johnson said.

"But we can't change their mind and we wouldn't want to. We'll have to be patient and wait our time. We're confident when the expansion comes through we'll be in a position to be first chosen."

He supported Ipswich forming a partnership with an NRL club such as the Broncos, saying the Mayor's idea was "not inconsistent with our vision and our model".

"We'd be happy to partner with any club that shares our vision," he said. "Speaking as chairman of Ipswich Jets, we need a pathway to the NRL through the Ipswich Junior Rugby League, the IRL and the Ipswich Jets."

The big league

The Australian Rugby League Commission was formed in February as the new governing body of rugby league.

John Grant was named chairman and former NRL chief executive David Gallop was to continue in a similar role with Mr Grant and seven other commission members.
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So much for another of Raiderdopes predictions :| :lol:

wow
this is bad news for the VFL

the NRL is not going to make the same mistake they did by ruining their comp & starting up 2 new waste of space teams that will bleed the coffers dry for decades
no .... as the article points out
new teams if not done properly , add nothing & in fact when they're done poorly , bring down the comp.... look at the thuns & midgits for an example
ruining the VFL .. because the VFL F 'd up
that mistake will take ten years to just get the rest of the comp back to an even keel ... these 2 teams however will be sucking on VFL funds a long time after this
along with many others who will be worse off as well .... VFL yep...its dying

no mill stones around our necks though :wink: .... just record TV deal after record TV deal to spend on our existing 16 clubs & the development of our game
nah
the best news for the VFL would have been we were going to expand & tie up a lot of our new found funds to do it
we're now going to instead use these funds to run their silly little game out of NSW & QLD ..... for good :wink:
Suns make a profit Dave ??? So not sure what you are on about . They own the management rights to the ground you see.


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Re: NRL In adelaide and perth

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Stewie wrote:In 2014 the nRL grand final will be on Gem in Adelaide and Perth. Channel 9 can't continue to sacrifice ratings for a shit sport that clearly locals don't care about.
I noticed the NRL game in Perth was sold out 8 days before the match....one of the teams playing was the Warriors.

21k, I don't think the GayFL football teams get much more than that and it's supposed to be an AFL state :rock:


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Re: NRL In adelaide and perth

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pussycat wrote:
Stewie wrote:In 2014 the nRL grand final will be on Gem in Adelaide and Perth. Channel 9 can't continue to sacrifice ratings for a shit sport that clearly locals don't care about.
I noticed the NRL game in Perth was sold out 8 days before the match....one of the teams playing was the Warriors.

21k, I don't think the GayFL football teams get much more than that and it's supposed to be an AFL state :rock:
AFL averages about 36k in Perth.


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Re: NRL In adelaide and perth

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Xman wrote:The swans and lions are self sufficient financially. The lions have made minor losses recently but that's mainly to do with brisbanes economy and their on field failures. They're now starting to rise again.

But, expansion costs money and the afl have budgeted for it. As others have said, the NRL are flat out keeping their homeland teams afloat. #-o
The swans self sufficient :blahblah: . :_<>


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