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pussycat wrote:You work it out for yourself - Last contact was $90m , Grant grant goes to great pains to point out this one was double. It has gives the NRL a part interest in some of its enterprises.

And many Gay FL fans said we would struggle to get 800k. :lol: enjoy that silver medal :wink:
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''Broadcast funding [including New Zealand television and a new media rights deal with Telstra] is just over $1.2 billion, and commercial revenue is about $800 million.

http://www.maroondahweekly.com.au/story ... man/?cs=12

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how is it that they know the amount when it was never released? - Enjoy that silver medal :D
When I tried your link this is the message I received:
Sorry, but this page doesn't exist.


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RUGBY LEAGUE bosses have been told the game will generate $2 billion in revenue over the next five years - but ARL Commission chairman John Grant says that is not enough.


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Grant presented the ARLC's 2012 financial report to a historic annual general meeting on Thursday of the 16 NRL club chairmen and their counterparts from the NSWRL and QRL, then provided them with budget estimates for the next five years.

Not surprisingly, the figures highlighted the poor financial state of the game under the previous joint venture between News Ltd and the ARL, and the vastly improved situation since the commission took control a year ago.

After generating only $185 million in revenue from broadcast rights, sponsorship and gate receipts last year, the ARLC's revenue is projected to increase to $284 million this year and $323 million in 2017.

Grant said that under the five-year, $1.025 billion broadcast deal, the game would earn $2 billion but only 10 per cent of that was not accounted for in expenditure.

''Our revenues in broadcast terms will more than double in the next year, and our commercial revenues are up by about 25 per cent so we are dealing with a lot more revenue, which is one of the reasons we have locked away $200 million in the growth fund over five years.

''Broadcast funding [including New Zealand television and a new media rights deal with Telstra] is just over $1.2 billion, and commercial revenue is about $800 million.

''That is about $2 billion, and of that amount 10 per cent only will go into our growth fund - and it is not enough.''

After inheriting a game with only $4.8 million in the bank, Grant said the ARLC aimed to put $40 million a year aside in a futures fund for big projects but he hoped that figure would be more.

According to the 2012 financial report, the first made public by the game's administration since the end of the Super League in 1997, the NRL received:

❏ $101,563,667 from broadcast rights;

❏ $39,919,406 from game receipts for finals matches and State of Origin; and

❏ $14,022,212 from sponsorship.

Among the expenses in 2012 were:

❏ $46.2 million in club grants;

❏ $8 million in a one-off payment of $500,000 per club;

❏ $69,079,584 in operational expenses;

❏ $14,730,317 in marketing and media expenses, and;

❏ $22,133,755 in administration expenses.

Between 2004 and 2012, the game's income grew by eight per cent a year but the ARLC has targeted 13 per cent annual growth for the next five years.


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''The point we made to all of our commission members is that it [$200 million] is not enough, and we need to generate more revenue so that is one of the things that we are chasing,'' Grant said.

''That is why digital [media] is important, that is why new sponsorships and new properties and creating new events are important.

''When you do the numbers and how much we spend, $200 million is what is left. It just speaks to the paucity of this game prior to this latest revenue rights [increase].

''This game has been run on the smell of an oily rag, and there has been nothing in the bank and no investment in the future. Yet it has been as successful as it has been.''
http://www.maroondahweekly.com.au/story ... man/?cs=12

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yes, great read - The Churchillian like speech from Grant get me all hard every time I read it. But what is it you think it proves?


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pussycat wrote:yes, great read - The Churchillian like speech from Grant get me all hard every time I read it. But what is it you think it proves?
Cant you read?

''Broadcast funding [including New Zealand television and a new media rights deal with Telstra] is just over $1.2 billion, and commercial revenue is about $800 million.

Isnt that less than 1.3b? :-k

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Yeah right, We thought we got double what we got last time but we actually got less :-k :mrgreen: somehow I dont think so. [-(


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pussycat wrote:Yeah right, We thought we got double what we got last time but we actually got less :-k :mrgreen: somehow I dont think so. [-(
Your own leader John Grant said it! :wink:

The NRL didnt disclose the full value of the Telstra deal. Now we know it wasnt much over 100m like we thought. NZ wasnt much of an increase either.

There's no denying his admission [-(


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pussycat wrote:Yeah right, We thought we got double what we got last time but we actually got less :-k :mrgreen: somehow I dont think so. [-(
The facts from the commision are:

Total = 1.2 billion (plus a bit of change)

9 and fox = 1.025 billion

So because of these facts we know that

Telstra + NZ = 175 milion (+ change)

But we dont know how much NZ or Telstra contributed individually.


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What we know is we know 1s: NZ money was $100m ( NZ $25m a year Au $20 a year). And we also know Telstra paid at least double. Not less!
Telstra would not disclose the commercial value of the contract but ARLC chairman John Grant said the deal was worth “double” in cash and contra to their previous deal.
“We have agreed with Telstra not to disclose the full value of that contract however we do acknowledge that it is double what we got in the last contract rights period.”


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pussycat wrote:What we know is we know 1s: NZ money was $100m ( NZ $25m a year Au $20 a year). And we also know Telstra paid at least double. Not less!
Telstra would not disclose the commercial value of the contract but ARLC chairman John Grant said the deal was worth “double” in cash and contra to their previous deal.
“We have agreed with Telstra not to disclose the full value of that contract however we do acknowledge that it is double what we got in the last contract rights period.”
No, we know the telstra figure was undisclosed . Both telstra and nz totalled no more than 200M over 5 years, as stated by Grant.


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Arnt you able to read? or doesn't it suit you?

Telstra would not disclose the commercial value of the contract but ARLC chairman John Grant said the deal was worth “double” in cash and contra to their previous deal.
“We have agreed with Telstra not to disclose the full value of that contract however we do acknowledge that it is double what we got in the last contract rights period.”


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This means nothing, all it says is "reportedly".

Your doubling comment is irrelevant because the previous agreement was over a longer term of 6 years. You therefore can't just double the previous amount :roll:

you also need to show a source for your claim regarding the NRL deal

The fact is Grant tallied your entire deal in the following statement:

''Broadcast funding [including New Zealand television and a new media rights deal with Telstra] is just over $1.2 billion, and commercial revenue is about $800 million.

Why would he say that if it wasnt true?


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Why would the NZ contract, signed a week ago, be included in the 2012 report ?


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pussycat wrote:Why would the NZ contract, signed a week ago, be included in the 2012 report ?
Grants comments were about the future contract
"Grant said that under the five-year, $1.025 billion broadcast deal, the game would earn $2 billion but only 10 per cent of that was not accounted for in expenditure.

''Our revenues in broadcast terms will more than double in the next year, and our commercial revenues are up by about 25 per cent so we are dealing with a lot more revenue, which is one of the reasons we have locked away $200 million in the growth fund over five years.

''Broadcast funding [including New Zealand television and a new media rights deal with Telstra] is just over $1.2 billion, and commercial revenue is about $800 million.

''That is about $2 billion, and of that amount 10 per cent only will go into our growth fund - and it is not enough.''


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Xman wrote: Grants comments were about the future contract
''Broadcast funding [including New Zealand television and a new media rights deal with Telstra] is just over $1.2 billion, and commercial revenue is about $800 million......"

Note the word is???? It's not a word you use when your talking about the past.

A new deal with Telsta - but not a new deal with NZ. :wink:


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