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Well that’s that. Perth is a no go for the NRL along with any expansion outside of Queensland.

Awkward.

Perth Nines a precursor to Perth team? No chance, says V'landys
By Andrew Webster
February 13, 2020

The cliched line about ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys is that he’d rather have a fight than a feed.

He’s likely to have the former before the latter at the Perth Nines on Friday night when he walks into the VIP area, where he will bump into representatives of the Western Australian Rugby League, who he says won't be getting an NRL team in the near future.

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ARL Commission chairman Peter V'landys is not a fan of a team in Perth.CREDIT:TIM BAUER

Awks.

“We want to dominate the market in Queensland,” V’landys told News Corp late last year. “Forget wasting millions in rusted-on AFL states. We must undertake a full analysis [of growth markets] but Perth does not have a huge league audience. Then there’s the concern around flying NRL players five hours when we already hear criticism of player workloads and how taxing the season is on the stars of the game.”

Those remarks infuriated the good rugby league folk of Perth, especially Perth businessman Peter Cumins, who was on the board of the Western Reds during Super League and also behind the push for the West Coast Pirates.

“The way he dismissed the WA market and his reasons are pathetic,” Cumins said late last year. “Not going to waste money trying to break into a rusted-on AFL state?​ One of the most successful clubs is the Melbourne Storm and you can’t get more rusted-on than Victoria.​

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Perth's Optus Stadium won't be hosting a Western Australian NRL team any time soon.CREDIT:AAP

“I was gutted. Parents, volunteers are gutted. What pissed me off even more was we had to read about it in the press.”

V’landys didn’t want to comment further when contacted by this column, but he wasn’t moving away from his inflammatory comments about a Perth franchise not featuring in the next broadcast deal, which starts in 2023.

Would a team in Perth succeed?

The city last year successfully hosted State of Origin II. The crowd of 59,721 was the ground record at Optus Stadium until it was eclipsed by a Bledisloe Cup match months later.

But more than a few influential people at the NRL fear the rebirth of the Nines could be a flop.

A crowd of 12,000 is expected for Friday’s match at HCF Park (which has a capacity of 20,000), with about 15,000 anticipated for Saturday.

At the very least, the tournament is likely to run at a financial loss, with some privately questioning why it wasn’t played in Brisbane or even at the new stadium in Townsville. It is unclear how much the Western Australian government paid for the hosting rights.

The reason why the NRL Nines were outrageously successful in its initial years at Auckland’s Eden Park was that the promoter, Duco Events, did an outstanding job selling the event.

One half of Duco was Dean Lonergan, the Kiwi boxing promoter and former Canberra Raider who manages Jeff Horn and could sell ice to Iceland.

He sold the Nines like a world title fight, ignoring the NRL’s wishes to sign up players as ambassadors while also linking local clubs to NRL powerhouses to ensure the local community was heavily invested.

The music died for the Auckland Nines for a few reasons, but mostly because the Warriors didn’t take the tournament seriously — as well as failing year on year to reach the NRL finals.

After a two-year hiatus, the NRL has taken control and rebirthed the Nines in the west.

I’m yet to catch Nines fever, I must say, although it would be preferable to coronavirus.

Former stars coming out of retirement feels like a gimmick. The fact some clubs are sending lightweight squads makes the tournament feel like an exhibition trot, not something to be taken remotely seriously let alone a pre-cursor to the season ahead. In the first few years, clubs were required to select five of their top 10-contracted players. Now it’s only one from the top six.

How the good people of Perth respond will be interesting, although it is unlikely to convince V’landys to change his mind on snubbing Perth as a potential NRL franchise.

The NRL has a secret team feverishly gathering data on what the game’s “footprint” should look like in years to come.

Its findings are supposed to be handed down later this year, but can the game really justify pouring $10 million a year for the next decade or more into an AFL-obsessed city like Perth?

Hosting Origins and the Nines are one thing — sustaining and propping up an NRL franchise that could take years to take off is another.

The counterargument that the Melbourne Storm have soared since its inception in 1998 doesn’t hold up.

The counterargument to that counterargument is that the Storm dynasty was built by one of the greatest coaches of all-time (Craig Bellamy), greatest players of all-time (Cameron Smith), greatest fullbacks of all-time (Billy Slater), greatest halfbacks of all-time (Cooper Cronk). It also cost News Corp truckloads of cash before it eventually bailed out.

There are already fears about what happens to Melbourne when Bellamy and Smith eventually leave the building, no matter what is left in place.

We're told the broadcasters aren't overly keen on a Perth team, too, because of the extra production costs.

And V’landys has already shown his hand when it comes to expansion, claiming he wants a 17-team competition with a second team in Brisbane, something that should have happened 20 years ago.

Perth can fight for a team all it wants — but it’s a fight the chairman will win.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/perth- ... 540c0.html


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The thing those pointing to the storm as an example is that rugby league at grassroots is so insignificant it’s not funny. At least the perth mob have worked on building grass roots.


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the double header last year at the new stadium didn't sell out either!

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Beaussie wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:41 pm Well that’s that. Perth is a no go for the NRL along with any expansion outside of Queensland.

Awkward.

Perth Nines a precursor to Perth team? No chance, says V'landys
By Andrew Webster
February 13, 2020

The cliched line about ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys is that he’d rather have a fight than a feed.

He’s likely to have the former before the latter at the Perth Nines on Friday night when he walks into the VIP area, where he will bump into representatives of the Western Australian Rugby League, who he says won't be getting an NRL team in the near future.

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ARL Commission chairman Peter V'landys is not a fan of a team in Perth.CREDIT:TIM BAUER

Awks.

“We want to dominate the market in Queensland,” V’landys told News Corp late last year. “Forget wasting millions in rusted-on AFL states. We must undertake a full analysis [of growth markets] but Perth does not have a huge league audience. Then there’s the concern around flying NRL players five hours when we already hear criticism of player workloads and how taxing the season is on the stars of the game.”

Those remarks infuriated the good rugby league folk of Perth, especially Perth businessman Peter Cumins, who was on the board of the Western Reds during Super League and also behind the push for the West Coast Pirates.

“The way he dismissed the WA market and his reasons are pathetic,” Cumins said late last year. “Not going to waste money trying to break into a rusted-on AFL state?​ One of the most successful clubs is the Melbourne Storm and you can’t get more rusted-on than Victoria.​

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Perth's Optus Stadium won't be hosting a Western Australian NRL team any time soon.CREDIT:AAP

“I was gutted. Parents, volunteers are gutted. What pissed me off even more was we had to read about it in the press.”

V’landys didn’t want to comment further when contacted by this column, but he wasn’t moving away from his inflammatory comments about a Perth franchise not featuring in the next broadcast deal, which starts in 2023.

Would a team in Perth succeed?

The city last year successfully hosted State of Origin II. The crowd of 59,721 was the ground record at Optus Stadium until it was eclipsed by a Bledisloe Cup match months later.

But more than a few influential people at the NRL fear the rebirth of the Nines could be a flop.

A crowd of 12,000 is expected for Friday’s match at HCF Park (which has a capacity of 20,000), with about 15,000 anticipated for Saturday.

At the very least, the tournament is likely to run at a financial loss, with some privately questioning why it wasn’t played in Brisbane or even at the new stadium in Townsville. It is unclear how much the Western Australian government paid for the hosting rights.

The reason why the NRL Nines were outrageously successful in its initial years at Auckland’s Eden Park was that the promoter, Duco Events, did an outstanding job selling the event.

One half of Duco was Dean Lonergan, the Kiwi boxing promoter and former Canberra Raider who manages Jeff Horn and could sell ice to Iceland.

He sold the Nines like a world title fight, ignoring the NRL’s wishes to sign up players as ambassadors while also linking local clubs to NRL powerhouses to ensure the local community was heavily invested.

The music died for the Auckland Nines for a few reasons, but mostly because the Warriors didn’t take the tournament seriously — as well as failing year on year to reach the NRL finals.

After a two-year hiatus, the NRL has taken control and rebirthed the Nines in the west.

I’m yet to catch Nines fever, I must say, although it would be preferable to coronavirus.

Former stars coming out of retirement feels like a gimmick. The fact some clubs are sending lightweight squads makes the tournament feel like an exhibition trot, not something to be taken remotely seriously let alone a pre-cursor to the season ahead. In the first few years, clubs were required to select five of their top 10-contracted players. Now it’s only one from the top six.

How the good people of Perth respond will be interesting, although it is unlikely to convince V’landys to change his mind on snubbing Perth as a potential NRL franchise.

The NRL has a secret team feverishly gathering data on what the game’s “footprint” should look like in years to come.

Its findings are supposed to be handed down later this year, but can the game really justify pouring $10 million a year for the next decade or more into an AFL-obsessed city like Perth?

Hosting Origins and the Nines are one thing — sustaining and propping up an NRL franchise that could take years to take off is another.

The counterargument that the Melbourne Storm have soared since its inception in 1998 doesn’t hold up.

The counterargument to that counterargument is that the Storm dynasty was built by one of the greatest coaches of all-time (Craig Bellamy), greatest players of all-time (Cameron Smith), greatest fullbacks of all-time (Billy Slater), greatest halfbacks of all-time (Cooper Cronk). It also cost News Corp truckloads of cash before it eventually bailed out.

There are already fears about what happens to Melbourne when Bellamy and Smith eventually leave the building, no matter what is left in place.

We're told the broadcasters aren't overly keen on a Perth team, too, because of the extra production costs.

And V’landys has already shown his hand when it comes to expansion, claiming he wants a 17-team competition with a second team in Brisbane, something that should have happened 20 years ago.

Perth can fight for a team all it wants — but it’s a fight the chairman will win.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/perth- ... 540c0.html

Ah beatup!!!!!!! How many times have ya jumped the gun pal?????? Remember your stadiums rant saying the folk of NSW wouldn't put up with it. They did loolololololololol!!!!!!!!! Your track record is about equal to your mate FitzIdiot!!!!!

Personally I wouldn't mind a team in Perth but clearly Brissy 2 is the main game in the short term. But I sure won't be saying "that's that" about Perth on your recommendation pal. As per usual more research and cost analysis needs to be done. In the words of our great prodigal son here, "not yet, maybe later" lolololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Terry wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:37 am
Beaussie wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:41 pm Well that’s that. Perth is a no go for the NRL along with any expansion outside of Queensland.

Awkward.

Perth Nines a precursor to Perth team? No chance, says V'landys
By Andrew Webster
February 13, 2020

The cliched line about ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys is that he’d rather have a fight than a feed.

He’s likely to have the former before the latter at the Perth Nines on Friday night when he walks into the VIP area, where he will bump into representatives of the Western Australian Rugby League, who he says won't be getting an NRL team in the near future.

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ARL Commission chairman Peter V'landys is not a fan of a team in Perth.CREDIT:TIM BAUER

Awks.

“We want to dominate the market in Queensland,” V’landys told News Corp late last year. “Forget wasting millions in rusted-on AFL states. We must undertake a full analysis [of growth markets] but Perth does not have a huge league audience. Then there’s the concern around flying NRL players five hours when we already hear criticism of player workloads and how taxing the season is on the stars of the game.”

Those remarks infuriated the good rugby league folk of Perth, especially Perth businessman Peter Cumins, who was on the board of the Western Reds during Super League and also behind the push for the West Coast Pirates.

“The way he dismissed the WA market and his reasons are pathetic,” Cumins said late last year. “Not going to waste money trying to break into a rusted-on AFL state?​ One of the most successful clubs is the Melbourne Storm and you can’t get more rusted-on than Victoria.​

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Perth's Optus Stadium won't be hosting a Western Australian NRL team any time soon.CREDIT:AAP

“I was gutted. Parents, volunteers are gutted. What pissed me off even more was we had to read about it in the press.”

V’landys didn’t want to comment further when contacted by this column, but he wasn’t moving away from his inflammatory comments about a Perth franchise not featuring in the next broadcast deal, which starts in 2023.

Would a team in Perth succeed?

The city last year successfully hosted State of Origin II. The crowd of 59,721 was the ground record at Optus Stadium until it was eclipsed by a Bledisloe Cup match months later.

But more than a few influential people at the NRL fear the rebirth of the Nines could be a flop.

A crowd of 12,000 is expected for Friday’s match at HCF Park (which has a capacity of 20,000), with about 15,000 anticipated for Saturday.

At the very least, the tournament is likely to run at a financial loss, with some privately questioning why it wasn’t played in Brisbane or even at the new stadium in Townsville. It is unclear how much the Western Australian government paid for the hosting rights.

The reason why the NRL Nines were outrageously successful in its initial years at Auckland’s Eden Park was that the promoter, Duco Events, did an outstanding job selling the event.

One half of Duco was Dean Lonergan, the Kiwi boxing promoter and former Canberra Raider who manages Jeff Horn and could sell ice to Iceland.

He sold the Nines like a world title fight, ignoring the NRL’s wishes to sign up players as ambassadors while also linking local clubs to NRL powerhouses to ensure the local community was heavily invested.

The music died for the Auckland Nines for a few reasons, but mostly because the Warriors didn’t take the tournament seriously — as well as failing year on year to reach the NRL finals.

After a two-year hiatus, the NRL has taken control and rebirthed the Nines in the west.

I’m yet to catch Nines fever, I must say, although it would be preferable to coronavirus.

Former stars coming out of retirement feels like a gimmick. The fact some clubs are sending lightweight squads makes the tournament feel like an exhibition trot, not something to be taken remotely seriously let alone a pre-cursor to the season ahead. In the first few years, clubs were required to select five of their top 10-contracted players. Now it’s only one from the top six.

How the good people of Perth respond will be interesting, although it is unlikely to convince V’landys to change his mind on snubbing Perth as a potential NRL franchise.

The NRL has a secret team feverishly gathering data on what the game’s “footprint” should look like in years to come.

Its findings are supposed to be handed down later this year, but can the game really justify pouring $10 million a year for the next decade or more into an AFL-obsessed city like Perth?

Hosting Origins and the Nines are one thing — sustaining and propping up an NRL franchise that could take years to take off is another.

The counterargument that the Melbourne Storm have soared since its inception in 1998 doesn’t hold up.

The counterargument to that counterargument is that the Storm dynasty was built by one of the greatest coaches of all-time (Craig Bellamy), greatest players of all-time (Cameron Smith), greatest fullbacks of all-time (Billy Slater), greatest halfbacks of all-time (Cooper Cronk). It also cost News Corp truckloads of cash before it eventually bailed out.

There are already fears about what happens to Melbourne when Bellamy and Smith eventually leave the building, no matter what is left in place.

We're told the broadcasters aren't overly keen on a Perth team, too, because of the extra production costs.

And V’landys has already shown his hand when it comes to expansion, claiming he wants a 17-team competition with a second team in Brisbane, something that should have happened 20 years ago.

Perth can fight for a team all it wants — but it’s a fight the chairman will win.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/perth- ... 540c0.html

Ah beatup!!!!!!! How many times have ya jumped the gun pal?????? Remember your stadiums rant saying the folk of NSW wouldn't put up with it. They did loolololololololol!!!!!!!!! Your track record is about equal to your mate FitzIdiot!!!!!

Personally I wouldn't mind a team in Perth but clearly Brissy 2 is the main game in the short term. But I sure won't be saying "that's that" about Perth on your recommendation pal. As per usual more research and cost analysis needs to be done. In the words of our great prodigal son here, "not yet, maybe later" lolololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
try reading the article again Terry and it explains with many reasons why there is no team in perth :thumbleft:


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Terry wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:37 amAh beatup!!!!!!! How many times have ya jumped the gun pal??????

Personally I wouldn't mind a team in Perth but clearly Brissy 2 is the main game in the short term. But I sure won't be saying "that's that" about Perth
LOL

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V’landys said “Forget wasting millions in rusted-on AFL states. We must undertake a full analysis [of growth markets] but Perth does not have a huge league audience.”


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Beaussie wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:06 pm
Terry wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:37 amAh beatup!!!!!!! How many times have ya jumped the gun pal??????

Personally I wouldn't mind a team in Perth but clearly Brissy 2 is the main game in the short term. But I sure won't be saying "that's that" about Perth
LOL

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V’landys said “Forget wasting millions in rusted-on AFL states. We must undertake a full analysis [of growth markets] but Perth does not have a huge league audience.”


Gee pal, you seem to think V'Landys is the great God Rugby League. We don't have demagoguery in our game. If at some state it stacks up it will happen. To say it never will is idiocy.


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Terry wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:28 pm
Beaussie wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:06 pm
Terry wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:37 amAh beatup!!!!!!! How many times have ya jumped the gun pal??????

Personally I wouldn't mind a team in Perth but clearly Brissy 2 is the main game in the short term. But I sure won't be saying "that's that" about Perth
LOL

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V’landys said “Forget wasting millions in rusted-on AFL states. We must undertake a full analysis [of growth markets] but Perth does not have a huge league audience.”


Gee pal, you seem to think V'Landys is the great God Rugby League. We don't have demagoguery in our game. If at some state it stacks up it will happen. To say it never will is idiocy.

and you tin foil hat loons have been dribbling for years about how a Perth team would succeed


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Terry wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:28 pm
Beaussie wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:06 pm
Terry wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:37 amAh beatup!!!!!!! How many times have ya jumped the gun pal??????

Personally I wouldn't mind a team in Perth but clearly Brissy 2 is the main game in the short term. But I sure won't be saying "that's that" about Perth
LOL

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V’landys said “Forget wasting millions in rusted-on AFL states. We must undertake a full analysis [of growth markets] but Perth does not have a huge league audience.”
Gee pal, you seem to think V'Landys is the great God Rugby League. We don't have demagoguery in our game. If at some state it stacks up it will happen. To say it never will is idiocy.
But you morons have been telling us all for years that Perth is a viable expansion market for rugby league. Meanwhile in the real world, the ARL chairman says that’s just delusional. In fact expansion anywhere outside of Queensland is delusional thinking.

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Beaussie wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:37 pm
Terry wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:28 pm
Beaussie wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:06 pm

LOL

Again...

V’landys said “Forget wasting millions in rusted-on AFL states. We must undertake a full analysis [of growth markets] but Perth does not have a huge league audience.”
Gee pal, you seem to think V'Landys is the great God Rugby League. We don't have demagoguery in our game. If at some state it stacks up it will happen. To say it never will is idiocy.
But you morons have been telling us all for years that Perth is a viable expansion market for rugby league. Meanwhile in the real world, the ARL chairman says that’s just delusional. In fact expansion anywhere outside of Queensland is delusional thinking.

National Rugby League :rofl:
You seem to hyperventilate very easily over matters Rugby League beatup. I suggest you calm down and take a long slow walk pal. It's pretty simple. If it is deemed viable to have a NRL team in Perth there will be one. If it is not there won't be. It doesn't matter what any single persons opinion on the matter is. No single person acting alone makes any of these decisions.

I hope that helps and you can now relax and smell the roses!!!!!


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But isn’t the guy brought in to run rugby league ... the guy who turned around Sydney racing (?) ... the messiah ... saying it’s not viable?

I think those in the bubble of nsw Rl don’t realise just how small rl is at grassroots ... wa don’t even have a team . Melbourne have a successful team yet still grassroots is so small still. It’s basically non existent by and large. Hockey is bigger at grassroots. I’d even have an each way bet Gridiron would be on par .... I think that’s the thing. Whereas you look at Australian rules and at least they had a spine to work with at grassroots and have grown the game at the level significantly. Even western Sydney ... the lower socioeconomic bastion of rugby league has grown the amount of teams.... and aussie rules has very little presence. If the afl can capture the lower socioeconomic market (they are doing well to capitalise on unions demise) them the sky is the limit.

Nrl or Rl is just so small outside nsw and qld I really don’t think rl types here get it. Sure, one off attractions and marquee events will always attract a crowd ... if of a good standard ... look at soccer, SoO, Olympic events etc....but sustained support is required.


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Terry wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:37 am
Beaussie wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:41 pm Well that’s that. Perth is a no go for the NRL along with any expansion outside of Queensland.

Awkward.

Perth Nines a precursor to Perth team? No chance, says V'landys
By Andrew Webster
February 13, 2020

The cliched line about ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys is that he’d rather have a fight than a feed.

He’s likely to have the former before the latter at the Perth Nines on Friday night when he walks into the VIP area, where he will bump into representatives of the Western Australian Rugby League, who he says won't be getting an NRL team in the near future.

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ARL Commission chairman Peter V'landys is not a fan of a team in Perth.CREDIT:TIM BAUER

Awks.

“We want to dominate the market in Queensland,” V’landys told News Corp late last year. “Forget wasting millions in rusted-on AFL states. We must undertake a full analysis [of growth markets] but Perth does not have a huge league audience. Then there’s the concern around flying NRL players five hours when we already hear criticism of player workloads and how taxing the season is on the stars of the game.”

Those remarks infuriated the good rugby league folk of Perth, especially Perth businessman Peter Cumins, who was on the board of the Western Reds during Super League and also behind the push for the West Coast Pirates.

“The way he dismissed the WA market and his reasons are pathetic,” Cumins said late last year. “Not going to waste money trying to break into a rusted-on AFL state?​ One of the most successful clubs is the Melbourne Storm and you can’t get more rusted-on than Victoria.​

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Perth's Optus Stadium won't be hosting a Western Australian NRL team any time soon.CREDIT:AAP

“I was gutted. Parents, volunteers are gutted. What pissed me off even more was we had to read about it in the press.”

V’landys didn’t want to comment further when contacted by this column, but he wasn’t moving away from his inflammatory comments about a Perth franchise not featuring in the next broadcast deal, which starts in 2023.

Would a team in Perth succeed?

The city last year successfully hosted State of Origin II. The crowd of 59,721 was the ground record at Optus Stadium until it was eclipsed by a Bledisloe Cup match months later.

But more than a few influential people at the NRL fear the rebirth of the Nines could be a flop.

A crowd of 12,000 is expected for Friday’s match at HCF Park (which has a capacity of 20,000), with about 15,000 anticipated for Saturday.

At the very least, the tournament is likely to run at a financial loss, with some privately questioning why it wasn’t played in Brisbane or even at the new stadium in Townsville. It is unclear how much the Western Australian government paid for the hosting rights.

The reason why the NRL Nines were outrageously successful in its initial years at Auckland’s Eden Park was that the promoter, Duco Events, did an outstanding job selling the event.

One half of Duco was Dean Lonergan, the Kiwi boxing promoter and former Canberra Raider who manages Jeff Horn and could sell ice to Iceland.

He sold the Nines like a world title fight, ignoring the NRL’s wishes to sign up players as ambassadors while also linking local clubs to NRL powerhouses to ensure the local community was heavily invested.

The music died for the Auckland Nines for a few reasons, but mostly because the Warriors didn’t take the tournament seriously — as well as failing year on year to reach the NRL finals.

After a two-year hiatus, the NRL has taken control and rebirthed the Nines in the west.

I’m yet to catch Nines fever, I must say, although it would be preferable to coronavirus.

Former stars coming out of retirement feels like a gimmick. The fact some clubs are sending lightweight squads makes the tournament feel like an exhibition trot, not something to be taken remotely seriously let alone a pre-cursor to the season ahead. In the first few years, clubs were required to select five of their top 10-contracted players. Now it’s only one from the top six.

How the good people of Perth respond will be interesting, although it is unlikely to convince V’landys to change his mind on snubbing Perth as a potential NRL franchise.

The NRL has a secret team feverishly gathering data on what the game’s “footprint” should look like in years to come.

Its findings are supposed to be handed down later this year, but can the game really justify pouring $10 million a year for the next decade or more into an AFL-obsessed city like Perth?

Hosting Origins and the Nines are one thing — sustaining and propping up an NRL franchise that could take years to take off is another.

The counterargument that the Melbourne Storm have soared since its inception in 1998 doesn’t hold up.

The counterargument to that counterargument is that the Storm dynasty was built by one of the greatest coaches of all-time (Craig Bellamy), greatest players of all-time (Cameron Smith), greatest fullbacks of all-time (Billy Slater), greatest halfbacks of all-time (Cooper Cronk). It also cost News Corp truckloads of cash before it eventually bailed out.

There are already fears about what happens to Melbourne when Bellamy and Smith eventually leave the building, no matter what is left in place.

We're told the broadcasters aren't overly keen on a Perth team, too, because of the extra production costs.

And V’landys has already shown his hand when it comes to expansion, claiming he wants a 17-team competition with a second team in Brisbane, something that should have happened 20 years ago.

Perth can fight for a team all it wants — but it’s a fight the chairman will win.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/perth- ... 540c0.html

Ah beatup!!!!!!! How many times have ya jumped the gun pal?????? Remember your stadiums rant saying the folk of NSW wouldn't put up with it. They did loolololololololol!!!!!!!!! Your track record is about equal to your mate FitzIdiot!!!!!

Personally I wouldn't mind a team in Perth but clearly Brissy 2 is the main game in the short term. But I sure won't be saying "that's that" about Perth on your recommendation pal. As per usual more research and cost analysis needs to be done. In the words of our great prodigal son here, "not yet, maybe later" lolololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remember I said I’d point out when Terry goes on a tangent and avoids addressing what was actually posted ............wellllll


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Well seems V’landys was right.

What a flop the NRL9s has turned out to be in Perth.

There was such optimism too. A real hunger for rugby league in Western Australia we were told.
After successfully bringing State of Origin II to Western Australia's Optus Stadium earlier this year, Annesley said the state's hunger for rugby league is clear and the 20,500-capacity HBF Park is the ideal venue.

"The sell-out crowd in Perth for State of Origin highlighted how much interest West Australians have in rugby league and we are committed to growing the game here," he said.


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And what’s this... Perth no longer in consideration for hosting next year?



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You seem to be a tad obsessed with this beatup. Let it go pal!!!!! Your fumbling game will survive. RL will once again be the most watched sport in the land. The status quo will remain. Deep breaths pal...…...in...…..out...…..in...………...out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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You think WA is still a viable expansion market for the NRL? Many leaguies thought as much. Not sure that’s the case after this weekend’s total flop.


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