AFL v RL which code has gotten the most GOVT $$$$?

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Re: AFL v RL which code has gotten the most GOVT $$$$?

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The_Wookie wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:59 pm
AFLcrap1 wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:05 pm
The_Wookie wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:22 pm
1) Money given to stadiums isnt given to a sport
2) Adelaide Oval and Optus Stadium both replaced venues built in the 70s and were scheduled for major upgrades or rebuilds.
3) Almost every single one of these stadiums is used by Cricket for half the year, but apparently the money doesnt go to them in your book.
4) Each and every one of Adelaide, Perth and the MCG are heavily relied on by state governments as tourist draw cards and state promotional vehicles. Like hosting internationsl soccer friendlies, union tests and Origin.
5) The AFL contributed to Metricon, the showgrounds, and Adelaide, and pays an annual sum to the MCC for finance, above and beyond rental costs.
6) MCG upgrade costs to Government have been in the order of about 140m for a stadium mostly funded by the MCC and its AFL contract.This has been true since the 1988 rebuild.
1.neither is it for most rectangular stadia ....they are multi sport ...& concerts ..& other events such as boxing or part of Comm games .

2.Same for Suncorp
Parra in the 80s ..cowboys stadium ...Melb had a venue built a long time ago .
See two can play this game .
Im not playing a game, im responding to your utter lack of any context.

3...most new stadia are used by Soccer in the Rugby League off season ...aami..Suncorp .parra ..cbus was till team folded .
4.same for some rectangular stadia
Suncorp hosts RU tests ..World title fight in boxing ....cbus when opened had a RUWC game ..had the RU 7s.
Cowboys stadium was opened with an Elton John concert ..these are included as tourist draw cards ..
No shit. Is anyone disputing this?
5 it's not about the contribution of a sporting code .
Maybe not for you.
You are ignoring what this thread is about .
This thread is bullshit.
It's Govt money .
noooo.
When it is repeated in thread after thread that RL is the biggest leach ..has got more $$ out of GOVTs then some facts about which sport has got the most need to be posted .
And Ive corrected this on multiple occasions, if you choose to keep believing and responding to idiots, then your just as bad as he is.
All other crap is meaningless ...as most stadia are multi sport or are used for other entertainment
So the thread is pointless.
Feel free to subtract what the afl contributed to these stadia ...
The simple fact is contrary to what is posted ..afl stadia has received far more off the govt .
Stadiums that almost all entirely used by other sports for half a year. They arent just afl stadia. if you want to buy into the premise of idiots, thats great.
This thread wouldn't exist if the bullshit was stopped .
Your a big part of why the bullshit exists.
6. So the govt only contributed 140 mill since 88
Where did the other come from for the 460 mill upgrade in 92
MCC loans. Some way most of the 2006 Northern Stand was done.
So spreading the same crap across multiple threads is ok .lol
At least I tried to put it in one place
Oh & the bullshit exists because it's repeated over & over .
& you still can't grasp why this was started .

I have no issue with new stadia ..

I have no issue with Govt assistance
I have no issue with other sports using stadia .
The whole argument was the simple bit of crap repeated over & over that the NRl were leeches
Had got far more $$ than the afl off GOVTs .
Which is blatantly false
Is this not a fight club .
Is this topic not supposed to be argued about .
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Re: AFL v RL which code has gotten the most GOVT $$$$?

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I think if the afl go to the government/council and put forth a case and say “hey, this ground here needs an upgrade... this would cost you maybe 80 million (say). So it will probably not get done as that’s a lot of tax payer money... it would be great for the community, create some jobs, and is a community asset. So how about we put in 20 mil and we get this, this snd this ...but there will also be netball courts, basketball courts, a couple of rectangle ovals and multi purpose rooms to use. We can go to the state government together and see if they’ll chuck 40 mil and that leaves you 20 mil to put in. It’s a win, win, win for all concerned. I think that is good business smarts. Look at the training facilities at Metricon ... look at Metricon itself.

The nrl seem to go .... we need this ... give it to us. Has there been a recent occurrence where the NRL have put there own money into stadiums?
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Fred wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:03 pm
I think if the afl go to the government/council and put forth a case and say “hey, this ground here needs an upgrade... this would cost you maybe 80 million (say). So it will probably not get done as that’s a lot of tax payer money... it would be great for the community, create some jobs, and is a community asset. So how about we put in 20 mil and we get this, this snd this ...but there will also be netball courts, basketball courts, a couple of rectangle ovals and multi purpose rooms to use. We can go to the state government together and see if they’ll chuck 40 mil and that leaves you 20 mil to put in. It’s a win, win, win for all concerned. I think that is good business smarts. Look at the training facilities at Metricon ... look at Metricon itself.

The nrl seem to go .... we need this ... give it to us. Has there been a recent occurrence where the NRL have put there own money into stadiums?
The way Metricon was built it was cleaver afl knew their was some commonwealth games on so they sat down with the government and worked with them.
Just after the ground a built the gcs change rooms, gym etc was in portable dongers and until the commonwealth games were on with facilities built just before
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AFLcrap1 wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:34 pm
The_Wookie wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:59 pm
AFLcrap1 wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:05 pm


1.neither is it for most rectangular stadia ....they are multi sport ...& concerts ..& other events such as boxing or part of Comm games .

2.Same for Suncorp
Parra in the 80s ..cowboys stadium ...Melb had a venue built a long time ago .
See two can play this game .
Im not playing a game, im responding to your utter lack of any context.

3...most new stadia are used by Soccer in the Rugby League off season ...aami..Suncorp .parra ..cbus was till team folded .
4.same for some rectangular stadia
Suncorp hosts RU tests ..World title fight in boxing ....cbus when opened had a RUWC game ..had the RU 7s.
Cowboys stadium was opened with an Elton John concert ..these are included as tourist draw cards ..
No shit. Is anyone disputing this?
5 it's not about the contribution of a sporting code .
Maybe not for you.
You are ignoring what this thread is about .
This thread is bullshit.
It's Govt money .
noooo.
When it is repeated in thread after thread that RL is the biggest leach ..has got more $$ out of GOVTs then some facts about which sport has got the most need to be posted .
And Ive corrected this on multiple occasions, if you choose to keep believing and responding to idiots, then your just as bad as he is.
All other crap is meaningless ...as most stadia are multi sport or are used for other entertainment
So the thread is pointless.
Feel free to subtract what the afl contributed to these stadia ...
The simple fact is contrary to what is posted ..afl stadia has received far more off the govt .
Stadiums that almost all entirely used by other sports for half a year. They arent just afl stadia. if you want to buy into the premise of idiots, thats great.
This thread wouldn't exist if the bullshit was stopped .
Your a big part of why the bullshit exists.
6. So the govt only contributed 140 mill since 88
Where did the other come from for the 460 mill upgrade in 92
MCC loans. Some way most of the 2006 Northern Stand was done.
So spreading the same crap across multiple threads is ok .lol
At least I tried to put it in one place
Oh & the bullshit exists because it's repeated over & over .
& you still can't grasp why this was started .

I have no issue with new stadia ..

I have no issue with Govt assistance
I have no issue with other sports using stadia .
The whole argument was the simple bit of crap repeated over & over that the NRl were leeches
Had got far more $$ than the afl off GOVTs .
Which is blatantly false
Is this not a fight club .
Is this topic not supposed to be argued about .
As you have a mental meltdown every time this is mentioned. Doesn’t matter how many times this is discussed you just ignore all facts just go on spitting out the same dribble
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Oh dear . No breakdown .
Just highlighting more of your lies .
If you think that Rl has got more GOVt money as you continually claim .
Please post some figures to back this up .

I have .
You can't seem to
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AFLcrap1 wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:44 pm
Oh dear . No breakdown .
Just highlighting more of your lies .
If you think that Rl has got more GOVt money as you continually claim .
Please post some figures to back this up .

I have .
You can't seem to
Perth gets their first stadium in 100 plus years their only multipurpose international venue and you think the afl got a billion dollars

Nrl gets all their club grounds paid for by the tax payer plus their international venues and you still think the afl is in front!

It’s called jealousy crapbot
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Lol that's
A no then .
Bhaa bhaaaaaa

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what's crapper on about - avoiding the points made again??


I would love to know where he got all that information on though lol - that is truly amazing - I don't think I have met anyone so dedicated to hating AFL as much as AFLcrap. I seriously think he has a bunker/office and keeps files. Well done. That is commitment lol.
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Fred wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:57 pm
what's crapper on about - avoiding the points made again??


I would love to know where he got all that information on though lol - that is truly amazing - I don't think I have met anyone so dedicated to hating AFL as much as AFLcrap. I seriously think he has a bunker/office and keeps files. Well done. That is commitment lol.
Maybe it’s not old poor crapbot missing the point & always wrong!

It’s every one else :-k :lol:
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Come on LIC
You made a claim that the NRl has leeched far more off the GOVt .
You can't back that up with any figures .
Lol I know why .
So now it's deflection time with rants .
It's got nothing to do with Perth or anywhere else getting their first new stadium in 100 yrs .
Lol that's not the argument , I agree that Perth needed a new stadium .always have .
& that's the difference between Rl fans & afl fans
afl gets a new stadium .thays no problem till you or Bea have a meltdown at the mention of Rl getting a new stadium built.
So on topic please
It's a simple maths answer
Which code has got the most .
Add up $$$$ for each code ..subtract what the sporting body put in .
There's your answer
& it won't be the answer you like
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Can anyone tell us how much the NRL has contributed to stadiums please?

That's the point - the NRL just put their hand out for money - the AFL at least contribute - do things co-jointly in a lot of situations.
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Fred wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:28 pm
Can anyone tell us how much the NRL has contributed to stadiums please?

That's the point - the NRL just put their hand out for money - the AFL at least contribute - do things co-jointly in a lot of situations.
Freddy boy, this thread is about gov,t money pal. It's nothing to do with codes money.

The AFL sometimes put in a tiny fraction of the total cost of a stadium. Its a little virtue signalling excessive. Good on 'em. But this thread is about gov,t money.

Please try to stay on point my friend.
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Lol Terry they can't answer the question .
Because it would highlight that AFl ( contrary to the multitude of LIC posts that say otherwise) have got far more GOVT $$$ than the NRL .
That's all this thread is about .not contributions from sport codes
Not how a new stadium was needed .
So
Lol what do we get from fumbletown .
The usual deflection ..the rants the off topic crap .
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I don’t think you can seperate the two Terry in the context in which the discussion is framed. It’s a very narrow view, and possibly self-serving to just look at money given. You need to look at it fully. The amount that it put in is one part of that. I don’t think you could say minimal by the afl .. but when the nrl puts in nothing ... well. Also the revenue drawn. The afl actually get people to their games in big numbers. It’s why governments argue over and pay for SoO games ... and try to get grand finals ... it brings in money. And I do think it matters ... crapper May want to try and skew the topic with a very narrow focus (no surprise there). When it suits of course ... but not on my watch... someone needs to keep him accountable for all the dribble and half truths he clutters threads up with.
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AFLcrap1 wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:47 pm
Lol Terry they can't answer the question .
Because it would highlight that AFl ( contrary to the multitude of LIC posts that say otherwise) have got far more GOVT $$$ than the NRL .
That's all this thread is about .not contributions from sport codes
Not how a new stadium was needed .
So
Lol what do we get from fumbletown .
The usual deflection ..the rants the off topic crap .
Perth gets their first international venue in 100 off years a multipurpose one

In that tone nrl gets their own club grounds, several stadiums in that tome but but afl got more money :lol:

Bitter, jealous and delusional is all you are crap bot
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