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Re: Fight Club - 2019 Financials

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:47 am
by Quolls2019
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:43 am
To Quolls.

I would like to see a run down of some Sydney Clubs.

i think it may surprise you with there assets and wealth.

NSW Clubs are very Asset Rich.

Canterbury (MASSIVE)
Parra (MASSIVE)
Souths (MASSIVE)
Roosters (MASSIVE)
Tigers (multiple Leagues CLub)
Raiders (multiple Leagues CLub)
Newcastle (owned by West's Group)
Panthers (HUGE)
Sharks Huge developments, owns it Ground and Golf Club and course.

(St George Illawarra i would be interested to see there figures)

Manly would be the littlest of the clubs

Can’t find to much on it.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/the- ... ds-2013-12
Probably the closest I can find but a bit old (2013).

NRL teams are asset richer the AFL teams overall because of their leagues clubs, which lets be real, are dependent on Pokies.
And some teams own their own grounds and developed surrounds which pretty much assures a substantial additional income.
AFL/VFL teams did not have the benefit of pokies (and when they came in the AFL discouraged them so much that only five Victorian clubs still have them).
A good revenue earner though.
The Victorian clubs had and some still do, small social clubs, than the large league clubs.
And none own their own ground which is more a consequence of the way Victorian rules developed than economics, but in retrospect perhaps not the best outcome.
I would think the most NRL clubs are asset richer than AFL clubs.
Value maybe a different argument.

Re the Suns.
I think the AFL will maintain them on the Coast, but a fall back position is to hand the license to the Southport sharks and reduce the need to pour in cash.

Be interesting to to see the value of clubs “if” pokies disappeared.

Re: Fight Club - 2019 Financials

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:03 am
by pussycat Mark 11
Pokies? What sort of an excuse is that. Alcohol and gambling destroy far more lives than poker machine's.

Where is this 'hollier than thou' attitude come from? - Just another excuse :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :rock:

Re: Fight Club - 2019 Financials

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:49 am
by leeroy*NRL*
Fred wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:26 pm
Live on the GC too and it has certainly tamed a lot. Whilst Aussie Rules does have a large following and large playing numbers I think the Suns as a team are really trying the patience. I don’t think it’s competition between Suns and Titans… most people who follow the code of choice have them as their second team or local team but generally have an established club already. Winners are griners and that always help. If this season sucks for Suns then Dew is out and I suspect Clarkson in on a massive pay deal to good to refuse.
regarding competition between suns and titans..
it is more along the lines for Media Presence..

I can See Clarkson joining too, would be a big plus and signing...

Re: Fight Club - 2019 Financials

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:58 am
by leeroy*NRL*
Quolls2019 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:47 am
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:43 am
To Quolls.

I would like to see a run down of some Sydney Clubs.

i think it may surprise you with there assets and wealth.

NSW Clubs are very Asset Rich.

Canterbury (MASSIVE)
Parra (MASSIVE)
Souths (MASSIVE)
Roosters (MASSIVE)
Tigers (multiple Leagues CLub)
Raiders (multiple Leagues CLub)
Newcastle (owned by West's Group)
Panthers (HUGE)
Sharks Huge developments, owns it Ground and Golf Club and course.

(St George Illawarra i would be interested to see there figures)

Manly would be the littlest of the clubs

Can’t find to much on it.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/the- ... ds-2013-12
Probably the closest I can find but a bit old (2013).

NRL teams are asset richer the AFL teams overall because of their leagues clubs, which lets be real, are dependent on Pokies.
And some teams own their own grounds and developed surrounds which pretty much assures a substantial additional income.
AFL/VFL teams did not have the benefit of pokies (and when they came in the AFL discouraged them so much that only five Victorian clubs still have them).
A good revenue earner though.
The Victorian clubs had and some still do, small social clubs, than the large league clubs.
And none own their own ground which is more a consequence of the way Victorian rules developed than economics, but in retrospect perhaps not the best outcome.
I would think the most NRL clubs are asset richer than AFL clubs.
Value maybe a different argument.

Re the Suns.
I think the AFL will maintain them on the Coast, but a fall back position is to hand the license to the Southport sharks and reduce the need to pour in cash.

Be interesting to to see the value of clubs “if” pokies disappeared.
Leagues Clubs do a play a big roll for the clubs which generate big coin..
though clubs have branched out also..

Canterbury own a plot of land in Liverpool CBD worth a monster..
Roosters own Residential and bowling clubs
Cronulla Sharks own a Big Golf Course

that is just at the top of my head,

Both codes were set up differently.. and both are changing in there ways..

i think you will be spot on in regards to the SUNS>
just how long will they take to make that call.

Re: Fight Club - 2019 Financials

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:08 pm
by Quolls2019
pussycat Mark 11 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:03 am
Pokies? What sort of an excuse is that. Alcohol and gambling destroy far more lives than poker machine's.

Where is this 'hollier than thou' attitude come from? - Just another excuse :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :rock:
Do you make up crap on the spot or give your crap some thought?

Re: Fight Club - 2019 Financials

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:34 am
by truthbomber
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:58 am
Quolls2019 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:47 am
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:43 am
To Quolls.

I would like to see a run down of some Sydney Clubs.

i think it may surprise you with there assets and wealth.

NSW Clubs are very Asset Rich.

Canterbury (MASSIVE)
Parra (MASSIVE)
Souths (MASSIVE)
Roosters (MASSIVE)
Tigers (multiple Leagues CLub)
Raiders (multiple Leagues CLub)
Newcastle (owned by West's Group)
Panthers (HUGE)
Sharks Huge developments, owns it Ground and Golf Club and course.

(St George Illawarra i would be interested to see there figures)

Manly would be the littlest of the clubs


https://www.businessinsider.com.au/the- ... ds-2013-12
Probably the closest I can find but a bit old (2013).

NRL teams are asset richer the AFL teams overall because of their leagues clubs, which lets be real, are dependent on Pokies.
And some teams own their own grounds and developed surrounds which pretty much assures a substantial additional income.
AFL/VFL teams did not have the benefit of pokies (and when they came in the AFL discouraged them so much that only five Victorian clubs still have them).
A good revenue earner though.
The Victorian clubs had and some still do, small social clubs, than the large league clubs.
And none own their own ground which is more a consequence of the way Victorian rules developed than economics, but in retrospect perhaps not the best outcome.
I would think the most NRL clubs are asset richer than AFL clubs.
Value maybe a different argument.

Re the Suns.
I think the AFL will maintain them on the Coast, but a fall back position is to hand the license to the Southport sharks and reduce the need to pour in cash.

Be interesting to to see the value of clubs “if” pokies disappeared.
Leagues Clubs do a play a big roll for the clubs which generate big coin..
though clubs have branched out also..

Canterbury own a plot of land in Liverpool CBD worth a monster..
Roosters own Residential and bowling clubs
Cronulla Sharks own a Big Golf Course

that is just at the top of my head,

Both codes were set up differently.. and both are changing in there ways..

i think you will be spot on in regards to the SUNS>
just how long will they take to make that call.
The Raiders own a residential, restaurant & shopping complex next to their ground & COE in Braddon in the centre of Canberra
( which they own lol)
They bought a warehouse in Seven Hills in Sydney in 2012 for 28 million dollars , & sold it at the end of 2020 for
wait for it...
$56 million
pocketing a lazy 28 Million profit
They are a very well run smart little regional club. :cool:

Re: Fight Club - 2019 Financials

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:36 pm
by leeroy*NRL*
yeah true to that, Raiders are a great well run organisation..

the list goes on.. for footy clubs.. in the NRL>