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Re: State of Origin - the greatest game of all

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:51 am
by Quolls2019
Terry
Yes they get beaten in the ratings In Sydney, as I said most popular club NOT the most popular code.

Re: State of Origin - the greatest game of all

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:55 am
by Terry
Quolls2019 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:51 am
Terry
Yes they get beaten in the ratings In Sydney, as I said most popular club NOT the most popular code.
Most popular club for game attendance. For overall eyes on the game i.e. attendance + tv they would be 10th at best.

Re: State of Origin - the greatest game of all

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:13 am
by Quolls2019
And that is where the code comes in. As I have repeatly said club not code.
If some proportional maths were done on the ratings, the swans would be much higher, but I am not convinced of the validity of that method.

The SOO games go someway to disproving a theory that Sydney fans don’t go to games for a variety of reasons such as transport difficulty, The Swans have been disproving that for years even when playing on the same day, same time against NRL games at Moore Park.
Butt, butt, bummer.
(In jest)

Re: State of Origin - the greatest game of all

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:05 pm
by Terry
Quolls2019 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:13 am
And that is where the code comes in. As I have repeatly said club not code.
If some proportional maths were done on the ratings, the swans would be much higher, but I am not convinced of the validity of that method.

The SOO games go someway to disproving a theory that Sydney fans don’t go to games for a variety of reasons such as transport difficulty, The Swans have been disproving that for years even when playing on the same day, same time against NRL games at Moore Park.
Butt, butt, bummer.
(In jest)
Pal, my attendance + tv ratings analysis has nothing to do with code v code. What it means is many many more people in Sydney watch each of the 9 RL clubs either live or TV than watch the Swans.

And as Wookie stated in his beautifully written article on The Roar "Why are we so worried about attendances?" The AFL is the outlier in world sport. Per head of population no one comes near them in live attendances. Well done!!

By world comparisons RL does very well in the markets they are in.

Re: State of Origin - the greatest game of all

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:13 pm
by SportCapital
Terry wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:55 am
Quolls2019 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:51 am
Terry
Yes they get beaten in the ratings In Sydney, as I said most popular club NOT the most popular code.
Most popular club for game attendance. For overall eyes on the game i.e. attendance + tv they would be 10th at best.
Well Terry, Going by those averages, it's safe to assume that Sydney siders find the AFL far more (almost double )important to attend, week after week after week after week in the H&A.

Re: State of Origin - the greatest game of all

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:24 pm
by Terry
SportCapital wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:13 pm
Terry wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:55 am
Quolls2019 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:51 am
Terry
Yes they get beaten in the ratings In Sydney, as I said most popular club NOT the most popular code.
Most popular club for game attendance. For overall eyes on the game i.e. attendance + tv they would be 10th at best.
Well Terry, Going by those averages, it's safe to assume that Sydney siders find the AFL far more (almost double )important to attend, week after week after week after week in the H&A.
Yes pal, we know the Swans get good crowds. But it's also safe to assume each NRL club in Sydney find their club far more (far more than double) important to watch week after week after week in H&A.

Re: State of Origin - the greatest game of all

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:38 pm
by Quolls2019
But if the people don’t go, sooner or latter they’ll be no show.

Re: State of Origin - the greatest game of all

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:44 pm
by Terry
Quolls2019 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:38 pm
But if the people don’t go, sooner or latter they’ll be no show.
Very silly pal, very silly!!!

Re: State of Origin - the greatest game of all

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:46 pm
by AngloFootballLeague
Get out of melbourne bubble - no widespread appeal for all white swans in Sydney.

Re: State of Origin - the greatest game of all

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:45 pm
by leeroy*NRL*
Any idea why They took off the Metro figures from the Fox figures..
they were very interesting>

Re: State of Origin - the greatest game of all

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:03 pm
by leeroy*NRL*
The_Wookie wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:52 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:45 pm
Any idea why They took off the Metro figures from the Fox figures..
they were very interesting>
OZtam - there are very strict rules around what and how you can publish data. And probably me - and the old nrlratings account that someone else ran that year that stopped running after a while - i assume because like me, got hit with Oztam demands.
I see... DAM OZTAM
:rock:

Re: State of Origin - the greatest game of all

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:00 am
by King-Eliagh
Hey Leeroy, can you whack this thread up in the sticky section please?

Thanks in advance, :cheers:
KING
:afro:

Re: State of Origin - the greatest game of all

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:32 am
by leeroy*NRL*
King-Eliagh wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:00 am
Hey Leeroy, can you whack this thread up in the sticky section please?

Thanks in advance, :cheers:
KING
:afro:
unfortunately that is for 4 designated threads only :salute:

even knowing It is the greatest of them all..

Re: State of Origin - the greatest game of all

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:01 pm
by Terry
The_Wookie wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:53 pm
In 2017 we were lucky for about half the season or so to get metro splits for Fox ratings, so ive compared thecombined average crwd/ave fta/ave fox ratings for all sydney nrl and afl teams over that period where all figures are available, so we can put paid to this - this is home and away figures for all fta/fox in sydney only - i need to adjust the average crowd figures included somewhat, but the overall impact should be roughly the same.

Code Team Total

NRL Parramatta 336,563
NRL St George Illawarra 330,585
NRL South Sydney 327,324
NRL Sydney 316,172
NRL Canterbury-Bankstown 314,516
NRL Wests Tigers 303,613
NRL Penrith 295,678
NRL Manly-Warringah 294,613
NRL Cronulla-Sutherland 292,881
AFL Sydney 129,928
AFL G.Western Sydney 81,188
Thanks Wookie. Tremendous work pal!!!!

So it would appear I am once again correct. The Swans get great crowds but they're still only the 10th most popular club in 'ol Sydney town.......and by a massive margin.

Re: State of Origin - the greatest game of all

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:28 pm
by Fred
Not by crowds they are not. I think combining the two statistically is a little dubious as one is an estimate with many confounds and the other is actual crowd numbers. By all means you could talk about ratings and swans do poorly but as far as crowds go, swans get the best crowds. It’s like I’m back at uni again teaching . But the old adage off using statistics to twist and turn and pick and choose to support an hypothesis is indeed true.