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The insane rant on endless loop
Two different games
RL has been played in NZ for over a century
No team was just PLONKED there
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Despite the perception of our RL friends, Victorian rules was well established in both Queensland and New Zealand in the early days of football. Petty politics reduced its dominance in Queensland with the help of a very powerful NSW figure and New Zealand Australian Rules never recovered from WWI when it shut down for the duration. The most dominant football club in NSW’s for many years was the Waratahs which played by Victorian rules.
Below is on of the many examples from the press in those days


Queensland Times, Ipswich Herald and Advertiser
Tuesday, 10 September 1878

“FOOTBALL.
The annual match of the season was played last Saturday on the Hamilton Oval, Brisbane. As the battle was to be waged a la Victorian, an exciting
contest was anticipated, and, indeed, spectators and players alike agreed that no closer fight had ever been witnessed in the metropolis. The game commenced precisely at half past 3 o’clock, Roberts, the captain of the Stripes, kicking lustily towards the eastern end, and in a very short space of time it was evident that, rules or no rules, both sides were determined to do or die.
Ipswich men, carefully placed by their commander, took the ball well forward, where Ransom, tipping a little mark to Stafford, caused first blood for the Reds as the latter player sent the ball neatly between the posts.
Quickly kicked off, the ball, taken along the southern wing by Mandonald, was returned by Scott, and the Brisbane team, leanving only two men in their places rallied forth en masse and sorely tried Booker's and Baines's enduranoe; but the former eventually ran off to the aide and deposited the sphere of contention about the half-way post, where the play continued with varying fortune till M'Grath, dodging opponent after opponent, steered his course for the enemy's rearguard, and with a light drop kick scored No. 2 for Ipswich by as dazzling a piece of play as has been seen this season.”

Further description of the game followed and then:

“Full time gave Ipswich the victory by two goals to one, the general consensus of opinion being that the Victorian rules were, superior in developing smartness together with judgment, so the Athenians were not to be compared to their hosts as regards weight and strength.
Our representatives were entertained during the evening at the Hamilton, and the speakers generally took she opportunity of making their remarks eh
cathedra. Among other points it was elicited that all the Grammar Schools in the colony played under Victorian rules, rejecting the Rugby. as South Australia
and New Zealand did before them, thereby affording a strong suspicion that the English game must sooner or later succumb to the charms of its colonial daughter.”

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Quolls2019 wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:35 am
Despite the perception of our RL friends, Victorian rules was well established in both Queensland and New Zealand in the early days of football. Petty politics reduced its dominance in Queensland with the help of a very powerful NSW figure and New Zealand Australian Rules never recovered from WWI when it shut down for the duration. The most dominant football club in NSW’s for many years was the Waratahs which played by Victorian rules.
Below is on of the many examples from the press in those days


Queensland Times, Ipswich Herald and Advertiser
Tuesday, 10 September 1878

“FOOTBALL.
The annual match of the season was played last Saturday on the Hamilton Oval, Brisbane. As the battle was to be waged a la Victorian, an exciting
contest was anticipated, and, indeed, spectators and players alike agreed that no closer fight had ever been witnessed in the metropolis. The game commenced precisely at half past 3 o’clock, Roberts, the captain of the Stripes, kicking lustily towards the eastern end, and in a very short space of time it was evident that, rules or no rules, both sides were determined to do or die.
Ipswich men, carefully placed by their commander, took the ball well forward, where Ransom, tipping a little mark to Stafford, caused first blood for the Reds as the latter player sent the ball neatly between the posts.
Quickly kicked off, the ball, taken along the southern wing by Mandonald, was returned by Scott, and the Brisbane team, leanving only two men in their places rallied forth en masse and sorely tried Booker's and Baines's enduranoe; but the former eventually ran off to the aide and deposited the sphere of contention about the half-way post, where the play continued with varying fortune till M'Grath, dodging opponent after opponent, steered his course for the enemy's rearguard, and with a light drop kick scored No. 2 for Ipswich by as dazzling a piece of play as has been seen this season.”

Further description of the game followed and then:

“Full time gave Ipswich the victory by two goals to one, the general consensus of opinion being that the Victorian rules were, superior in developing smartness together with judgment, so the Athenians were not to be compared to their hosts as regards weight and strength.
Our representatives were entertained during the evening at the Hamilton, and the speakers generally took she opportunity of making their remarks eh
cathedra. Among other points it was elicited that all the Grammar Schools in the colony played under Victorian rules, rejecting the Rugby. as South Australia
and New Zealand did before them, thereby affording a strong suspicion that the English game must sooner or later succumb to the charms of its colonial daughter.”

Tis taking us a little longer than expected.
You are actually correct here pal. And fumbling was also popular in Sydney with Dally Messenger having played the game.

At the time they were competing with Rugby and soccer. What changed everything was the introduction of the 13 man Rugby code in NSW in 1907/08 and shortly after in Qld.

The new exciting code immediately blew the other sports out of the water dominating player ranks, crowds and the media.

So the people of NSW & Qld had a choice back in the day and overwhelmingly voted with their wallets and feet for the greatest game of all.

And in NZ they had the choice of AFL but got smashed by RU......ever heard of the All Blacks. Whilst RL got a foothold in Auckland & other areas of NZ. Meanwhile fumbling disappeared. Banished. Thrown outta town. A bit like what happened in Wellington a few years ago. Sad but true lolololol!!!!!!!
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when you think about it ...

Rugby League was the last major sport to start up in Australia>> 1908

UNION 1864
Aussie Rules 1857
Soccer 1880
Cricket 1803

so it was behind from the get go..
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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:43 am
when you think about it ...

Rugby League was the last major sport to start up in Australia>> 1908

UNION 1864
Aussie Rules 1857
Soccer 1880
Cricket 1803

so it was behind from the get go..
Yep, started last but immediately dominated in NSW & Qld. By 1910 AFL had almost disappeared and RU was on its knees.
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Yep
If you listen to some afl zealots ..Aflol was very entrenched in the northern states & even NZ .
I read years ago ..think it was a WIKI( lol most likely written by a zealot) that there were 153 clubs ...not teams ..clubs in NZ pre WW1
Lol
The misinformation spread about this abortion of a sport would make the N Korea propaganda dEpt blush .

So when it's pointed out that Rl came along decades later & was the game of choice in te Northern states & RU obliterated AFL in NZ suddenly the conspiracy theories come out .

Jesus h some fumblers just can't accept that there's plenty who's have no interest in their fumbling mess .
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Interesting how The AFL had first shot and lost it..
after decades of being in the northern states..

Give it 10 years, if League plays it's cards right, Union could be even lower than they are.
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Quolls2019 wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:35 am
Despite the perception of our RL friends, Victorian rules was well established in both Queensland and New Zealand in the early days of football. Petty politics reduced its dominance in Queensland with the help of a very powerful NSW figure and New Zealand Australian Rules never recovered from WWI when it shut down for the duration. The most dominant football club in NSW’s for many years was the Waratahs which played by Victorian rules.
Below is on of the many examples from the press in those days


Queensland Times, Ipswich Herald and Advertiser
Tuesday, 10 September 1878

“FOOTBALL.
The annual match of the season was played last Saturday on the Hamilton Oval, Brisbane. As the battle was to be waged a la Victorian, an exciting
contest was anticipated, and, indeed, spectators and players alike agreed that no closer fight had ever been witnessed in the metropolis. The game commenced precisely at half past 3 o’clock, Roberts, the captain of the Stripes, kicking lustily towards the eastern end, and in a very short space of time it was evident that, rules or no rules, both sides were determined to do or die.
Ipswich men, carefully placed by their commander, took the ball well forward, where Ransom, tipping a little mark to Stafford, caused first blood for the Reds as the latter player sent the ball neatly between the posts.
Quickly kicked off, the ball, taken along the southern wing by Mandonald, was returned by Scott, and the Brisbane team, leanving only two men in their places rallied forth en masse and sorely tried Booker's and Baines's enduranoe; but the former eventually ran off to the aide and deposited the sphere of contention about the half-way post, where the play continued with varying fortune till M'Grath, dodging opponent after opponent, steered his course for the enemy's rearguard, and with a light drop kick scored No. 2 for Ipswich by as dazzling a piece of play as has been seen this season.”

Further description of the game followed and then:

“Full time gave Ipswich the victory by two goals to one, the general consensus of opinion being that the Victorian rules were, superior in developing smartness together with judgment, so the Athenians were not to be compared to their hosts as regards weight and strength.
Our representatives were entertained during the evening at the Hamilton, and the speakers generally took she opportunity of making their remarks eh
cathedra. Among other points it was elicited that all the Grammar Schools in the colony played under Victorian rules, rejecting the Rugby. as South Australia
and New Zealand did before them, thereby affording a strong suspicion that the English game must sooner or later succumb to the charms of its colonial daughter.”

Tis taking us a little longer than expected.
Yes, but the 'Australian Game' didn't fare to well once Rugby League was introduced. :roll:
Rugby League, the dominant force in Australian sport! :cheers:

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It started to fall off in Queensland before the rugby split.
Union became dominate for the reasons listed above.
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It started to fall off in Queensland before the rugby split.
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I did write an elaborate post on the demise of Victorian Rules in Queensland but I can’t find where I posted it to!!
This is the short version.
The name Victorian Rules annoyed some important figures in sport both in Queensland and NSW, must remember that throughout the football development years each colony wa a seperate entity, for all intents, seperate, but similar countries and there was intense competition between them.

When Fred Lea, who had been at Rugby, arrived in Queensland in the late 1870’s he pushed the rugby game hard.
The private schools voted to see what code they would take up and rugby won by a vote.
South melbourne did a tour of Queensland and destroyed the local and state side putting off many players. NSW toured within a year and Queensland beat them under rugby rules. Many Queensland players changed codes permanently.
A Queensland tour of Victoria fell through when the Victorian authorities refused to assist with costs.
The NSWUnion offered to pay for a tour of NSW as long as the clubs only played by the rules of rugby.
And that was that, many clubs changed permanently.
Union became the dominant code,

Now Union isn’t much of a challenger to either Australian Rules or League and is probably falling below soccer in this country. I don’t think the next round of broadcast rights will be great for union, but I think the one after that will be devasting unless they fix or dump super.
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pussycat wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:45 am
Quolls2019 wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:35 am
Despite the perception of our RL friends, Victorian rules was well established in both Queensland and New Zealand in the early days of football. Petty politics reduced its dominance in Queensland with the help of a very powerful NSW figure and New Zealand Australian Rules never recovered from WWI when it shut down for the duration. The most dominant football club in NSW’s for many years was the Waratahs which played by Victorian rules.
Below is on of the many examples from the press in those days


Queensland Times, Ipswich Herald and Advertiser
Tuesday, 10 September 1878

“FOOTBALL.
The annual match of the season was played last Saturday on the Hamilton Oval, Brisbane. As the battle was to be waged a la Victorian, an exciting
contest was anticipated, and, indeed, spectators and players alike agreed that no closer fight had ever been witnessed in the metropolis. The game commenced precisely at half past 3 o’clock, Roberts, the captain of the Stripes, kicking lustily towards the eastern end, and in a very short space of time it was evident that, rules or no rules, both sides were determined to do or die.
Ipswich men, carefully placed by their commander, took the ball well forward, where Ransom, tipping a little mark to Stafford, caused first blood for the Reds as the latter player sent the ball neatly between the posts.
Quickly kicked off, the ball, taken along the southern wing by Mandonald, was returned by Scott, and the Brisbane team, leanving only two men in their places rallied forth en masse and sorely tried Booker's and Baines's enduranoe; but the former eventually ran off to the aide and deposited the sphere of contention about the half-way post, where the play continued with varying fortune till M'Grath, dodging opponent after opponent, steered his course for the enemy's rearguard, and with a light drop kick scored No. 2 for Ipswich by as dazzling a piece of play as has been seen this season.”

Further description of the game followed and then:

“Full time gave Ipswich the victory by two goals to one, the general consensus of opinion being that the Victorian rules were, superior in developing smartness together with judgment, so the Athenians were not to be compared to their hosts as regards weight and strength.
Our representatives were entertained during the evening at the Hamilton, and the speakers generally took she opportunity of making their remarks eh
cathedra. Among other points it was elicited that all the Grammar Schools in the colony played under Victorian rules, rejecting the Rugby. as South Australia
and New Zealand did before them, thereby affording a strong suspicion that the English game must sooner or later succumb to the charms of its colonial daughter.”

Tis taking us a little longer than expected.
Yes, but the 'Australian Game' didn't fare to well once Rugby League was introduced. :roll:
Australia does stretch further than Canberra, through to the gold coast Gollum

Maybe some geography lessons with that special needs nurse is in order next👍🏻
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Oh lol
You really have no comprehension do you ?
I could explain it but I'd be wasting my time as usual because you're the dumbest person ever on any forum in the history of the net .
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Maloney signs to play in France;


Meanwhile anglofl players have ...Nauru?
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But the AFL get to keep their best players, I would think that is a good thing.
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