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The handout figures for each club may be getting close to 30 million up from 22 million in 2018 as quoted above but some Victorian clubs are not too far behind and are also subsidized 10s of millions of dollars.
The Sun's and Giants are good value as far as subsidies go because they are growing the game . If they develop some momentum and string wins together tv ratings slowly improve in new markets.
To subsidize the bottom Melbourne clubs is a waste of money because they add no national value, they are nationally irrelevant, they dont grow and promote the game in new markets and they don't rate on television, even in Melbourne their ratings stink..
The Suns and Giants may be more expensive to support but they give something back to the game as expansion clubs with the potential to win new markets.
They have already had limited success in winning over new supporters and when both clubs start to win they attract healthy crowds.

2020 is a year to forget for all sports and it is not the time to make knee jerk decisions by withdrawing support for expansion clubs.
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Bbear wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:16 pm http://www.hpnfooty.com/?p=31622

The handout figures for each club may be getting close to 30 million up from 22 million in 2018 as quoted above but some Victorian clubs are not too far behind and are also subsidized 10s of millions of dollars.
The Sun's and Giants are good value as far as subsidies go because they are growing the game . If they develop some momentum and string wins together tv ratings slowly improve in new markets.
To subsidize the bottom Melbourne clubs is a waste of money because they add no national value, they are nationally irrelevant, they dont grow and promote the game in new markets and they don't rate on television, even in Melbourne their ratings stink..
The Suns and Giants may be more expensive to support but they give something back to the game as expansion clubs with the potential to win new markets.
They have already had limited success in winning over new supporters and when both clubs start to win they attract healthy crowds.

2020 is a year to forget for all sports and it is not the time to make knee jerk decisions by withdrawing support for expansion clubs.
Go Sun's !!!
It's been almost 40 years in Sydney - ratings haven't improved


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Pippen94 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:46 am
Bbear wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:16 pm http://www.hpnfooty.com/?p=31622

The handout figures for each club may be getting close to 30 million up from 22 million in 2018 as quoted above but some Victorian clubs are not too far behind and are also subsidized 10s of millions of dollars.
The Sun's and Giants are good value as far as subsidies go because they are growing the game . If they develop some momentum and string wins together tv ratings slowly improve in new markets.
To subsidize the bottom Melbourne clubs is a waste of money because they add no national value, they are nationally irrelevant, they dont grow and promote the game in new markets and they don't rate on television, even in Melbourne their ratings stink..
The Suns and Giants may be more expensive to support but they give something back to the game as expansion clubs with the potential to win new markets.
They have already had limited success in winning over new supporters and when both clubs start to win they attract healthy crowds.

2020 is a year to forget for all sports and it is not the time to make knee jerk decisions by withdrawing support for expansion clubs.
Go Sun's !!!
It's been almost 40 years in Sydney - ratings haven't improved
Ratings are not the only measure of success when it comes to development and growth. The Sydney Swans for instance have long been by far the biggest sporting club in NSW. Do you think you’d ever be able to say the same about the NRL’s Melbourne Storm in Victoria?


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Beaussie wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:57 am
Pippen94 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:46 am
Bbear wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:16 pm http://www.hpnfooty.com/?p=31622

The handout figures for each club may be getting close to 30 million up from 22 million in 2018 as quoted above but some Victorian clubs are not too far behind and are also subsidized 10s of millions of dollars.
The Sun's and Giants are good value as far as subsidies go because they are growing the game . If they develop some momentum and string wins together tv ratings slowly improve in new markets.
To subsidize the bottom Melbourne clubs is a waste of money because they add no national value, they are nationally irrelevant, they dont grow and promote the game in new markets and they don't rate on television, even in Melbourne their ratings stink..
The Suns and Giants may be more expensive to support but they give something back to the game as expansion clubs with the potential to win new markets.
They have already had limited success in winning over new supporters and when both clubs start to win they attract healthy crowds.

2020 is a year to forget for all sports and it is not the time to make knee jerk decisions by withdrawing support for expansion clubs.
Go Sun's !!!
It's been almost 40 years in Sydney - ratings haven't improved
Ratings are not the only measure of success when it comes to development and growth. The Sydney Swans for instance have long been by far the biggest sporting club in NSW. Do you think you’d ever be able to say the same about the NRL’s Melbourne Storm in Victoria?
It's the best measure because it shows widespread support. Following only niche if look at overall picture.


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Pippen94 wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:50 am
Beaussie wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:57 am
Pippen94 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:46 am

It's been almost 40 years in Sydney - ratings haven't improved
Ratings are not the only measure of success when it comes to development and growth. The Sydney Swans for instance have long been by far the biggest sporting club in NSW. Do you think you’d ever be able to say the same about the NRL’s Melbourne Storm in Victoria?
It's the best measure because it shows widespread support. Following only niche if look at overall picture.

So by that logic, athletics is by far the most popular sport in Australia based on the 8,787,000 Australians who watched Cathy Freeman win gold? Widespread support as you say yeah.

SEVEN NETWORK TV RATINGS: ROCKING IN THE FREEMAN WORLD
September 27, 2000

Australian sprinter Cathy Freeman's victory in the 400-meter Monday night was the "most watched sporting event in Australian television history," according to the Sydney DAILY TELEGRAPH. Data shows that 8,787,000 Australians watched the race, with a "massive" 90% share of the Sydney viewing audience tuned to Channel 7. Nationally, the race scored an 86.7% share (Sydney DAILY TELEGRAPH, 9/27).

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Dai ... WORLD.aspx


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Keep grasping at those straws Bea

It's hilarious how you are trying to compare a once in a lifetime chance for a gold medal in the Women's 400 in a event that is on once every four years to a yearly football comp.

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Beaussie wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:39 am
Pippen94 wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:50 am
Beaussie wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:57 am

Ratings are not the only measure of success when it comes to development and growth. The Sydney Swans for instance have long been by far the biggest sporting club in NSW. Do you think you’d ever be able to say the same about the NRL’s Melbourne Storm in Victoria?
It's the best measure because it shows widespread support. Following only niche if look at overall picture.

So by that logic, athletics is by far the most popular sport in Australia based on the 8,787,000 Australians who watched Cathy Freeman win gold? Widespread support as you say yeah.

SEVEN NETWORK TV RATINGS: ROCKING IN THE FREEMAN WORLD
September 27, 2000

Australian sprinter Cathy Freeman's victory in the 400-meter Monday night was the "most watched sporting event in Australian television history," according to the Sydney DAILY TELEGRAPH. Data shows that 8,787,000 Australians watched the race, with a "massive" 90% share of the Sydney viewing audience tuned to Channel 7. Nationally, the race scored an 86.7% share (Sydney DAILY TELEGRAPH, 9/27).

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Dai ... WORLD.aspx
Crazy logic - that event is a one off. Afl games on free tv in Sydney for forty years & still nobody watching


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AFLcrap1 wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:44 am Keep grasping at those straws Bea

It's hilarious how you are trying to compare a once in a lifetime chance for a gold medal in the Women's 400 in a event that is on once every four years to a yearly football comp.

You lot just move the goalposts with your constant but, but, buts whenever something doesn’t fit with your narrative.

Back to the substance of this thread, the Giants and Suns are guaranteed to stay in our NATIONAL competition. You lot can continue to wish and pray that was not the case but you just look rather silly. Unlike your rabble of a code, the AFL understands the importance of developing the game Australia wide to remain number one and in the hearts and minds of the nation - Australia’s Game.


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Lol
If you're backing them to be guaranteed to stay that's a big sign they will go
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the game of AFL is looking at 150million down grade on tv deal this year.

alot of money to come up with...

no wonder they want a reduction in salary cap going forward.


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interesting that GWS still has not released there financials for last season lol

a record delay mind you


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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:52 pm interesting that GWS still has not released there financials for last season lol

a record delay mind you
Yeah. I wonder what's goin' on there????? Maybe they're having trouble getting it cleared by ASIC due to insolvency problems similar to Rugby Australia. No doubt Gilty and the boys will be working overtime to smother this if there any problems.


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wookie cannot explain the delay either, maybe they are using the covid as a reason.
even knowing most clubs had reported before it hit.

looks very bleak whatever way u look at it


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The_Wookie wrote: Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:02 pm
Once again some interesting numbers in there. Nothing is very specific. A lot of the revenue is lumped together. The marketing and sponsorship is impressive though - $17M. So the AFL grant ($27M) + sponsorship & marketing makes up $44M of $48M total revenue.

That's out of proportion with other clubs. It would be very interesting to see the break down. There is no mention of the secret Showground naming 'sponsorship'. All very opaque really.


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The Suns must of been one of those 14 AFL clubs that made a profit :roll: after being given 27m they managed a 200k profit. Or was that there previous year Im think of? not a lot changes there.

Can anyone explain to me(and keep a straight face while doing so) how teams can be dished out millions of extra dollars and then brag about making a 200k profit?


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