Finances of AFL and NRL clubs in one easy table (prelim)

[TLPG]

I don't use Google. Long story. The company nauseates me. You've seen the annual report. You don't need to do any homework. You should have the link just like that.

Now it's of interest that you seperate the Raiders from their owners, and yet you're prepared to add revenue from clubs that play in the District competition (Queanbeyan for instance).

The Panthers Group is not the Penrith Club - literally or practically. I again refer back to the rescue package by James Packer.

[AFLcrap1]

I don't use Google. Long story. The company nauseates me. You've seen the annual report. You don't need to do any homework. You should have the link just like that.

Now it's of interest that you seperate the Raiders from their owners, and yet you're prepared to add revenue from clubs that play in the District competition (Queanbeyan for instance).

The Panthers Group is not the Penrith Club - literally or practically. I again refer back to the rescue package by James Packer.

I have separated the Raiders because I cant get a copy of the Parent companys accounts - Queanbeyan clearly states its a member of the Raiders Group in its annual report. For Penrith, I refer as always to the Penrith Rugby League Club Limited 2013 Annual Report. Ill take these over media reports any day of the week.

If you cant even be bothered to produce evidence to support your argument then Im done talking to you.

Welcome to the world of a RL fan on TFC.

[TLPG]

So, Wookie, you're calling Andy Raymond a liar? And you're claiming that James Packer never bailed the Panthers out?

You're the one making the claim. You're the one who's seen the report. Let's see it. If I use Dogpile like I always do there's a good chance I'll find a different report - and we can't have that because it will just exacerbate the issue here.

If you won't show it, then the conversation is indeed over and I'll know you are a liar.

[NRLCrap1]

PROVIDE THE REPORT YOURSELF, GOOSE!! You're quoting from it, you fucking show it to us!!

[NRLCrap1]

You made the claim, not me or TLPG! You give!

[AFLcrap1]

PROVIDE THE REPORT YOURSELF, GOOSE!! You're quoting from it, you fucking show it to us!!

Spambot Meltdown.
Its typing in Capitals.

[TLPG]

So, Wookie, you're calling Andy Raymond a liar? And you're claiming that James Packer never bailed the Panthers out?

You're the one making the claim. You're the one who's seen the report. Let's see it. If I use Dogpile like I always do there's a good chance I'll find a different report - and we can't have that because it will just exacerbate the issue here.

If you won't show it, then the conversation is indeed over and I'll know you are a liar.

Im calling Andy Raymond misguided. As for Packer bailing out the Panthers. Packers bailout had to do with its debt levels, not its revenue which is what this table demonstrates. You wont find a different report to the official Penrith Rugby League Club 2013 Annual Report if you look it up, so how about putting the effort in.

And before you start throwing the term liar out, the least you can do is look up the information. Otherwise your talking out your backside.

No you are because you won't back up your statements with proof. There would only have been a bailout of such proportions if the revenue couldn't have covered it. And according to the figure you came up with it could have and easily. I'm bound to find two different reports. Penrith RLFC and the Panthers Group. But you are too lazy to show your sources - or you are a liar.

Which is it?

Oh, and Andy Raymond is an experience boxing promoter and IIRC he has booked many a Leagues Club for shows. So he would be familiar with not just the Penrith set up, but the set up at other venues that have a thugby league connection (Parramatta and Balmain spring to mind). Misguided my rear end!

[TLPG]

Right. You're a liar then. We can dismiss the Penrith listing in the OP as wrong.

[TLPG]

You're a coward who won't back up your figures. Without those figures there is only the heresay from the mouth of a reliable source and the fact that James Packer bailed them out. It's one thing to choose not to believe that. It's something else to refuse to provide your counter evidence.

Last chance.

[TLPG]

Yes I have and you haven't backed it up with proof. You have no right to demand that I go look it up, because it is YOU who made the claim. It is up to you to back it up. You are trying to bully me into doing your biding and I'm fighting against it. If that's bullying in your eyes then you should back track and look at what led to this to begin with.

[ParraEelsNRL]

I think that's on page 1


*for the stupid

[ParraEelsNRL]

Yes I have and you haven't backed it up with proof. You have no right to demand that I go look it up, because it is YOU who made the claim. It is up to you to back it up. You are trying to bully me into doing your biding and I'm fighting against it. If that's bullying in your eyes then you should back track and look at what led to this to begin with.

Page 1 dude.

Need a link?

[TLPG]

Yes I have and you haven't backed it up with proof. You have no right to demand that I go look it up, because it is YOU who made the claim. It is up to you to back it up. You are trying to bully me into doing your biding and I'm fighting against it. If that's bullying in your eyes then you should back track and look at what led to this to begin with.

I have EVERY right to demand you provide proof, when you havent even looked at the references.

What references?? That's the whole point! You never linked any! Your statements wouldn't last five seconds on Wikipedia because of the lack of online citations.

[AFLcrap1]

Can someone tell me how .
An Alledged convo with Andy Raymond (By someone who likes to tell a few lies)is definitive proof.
Looks like one Cwackhead nutjob left & another jumped in his place.
Luckily they have not let this nutjob anywhere near the MODS job.

Oh & well done Wookie ,showing up the liars.

[leagueiscrap]

That's bullshit, Wookie! TLPG is right! The Panthers Group has NOTHING to do with the RL club! Take their figures off your list. Collingwood is number one in the country in revenue and we all know it! And what the hell is that bullshit figure with Parramatta as well??

the AFL and NRL clubs are set up differently
the AFL clubs the AFL owns the licence

the NRL clubs are privately owned
eg newcastle knights, owned by nathan large guts tinkler
most of the nrl clubs are owned by poke clubs