Talking Footy

leeroy*NRL* wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:43 am

NlolRL wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:33 am

leeroy*NRL* wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:15 am

Why i get your point... Collingwood Game would out rate a Suns game...

The supporters of the game can always watch this game on FOX FOOTY...


While have a think about NRL fans That have 5 exclusive games on FOX

and that there is only 3 Titans games on FTA this year...

but it is a decrease in ratings overall if more would watch the collingwood game on FTA.

Targteting home markets doesn't always result in higher ratings. EG: Fremantle v Suns shown in Perth on FTA while Crows v Collingwood is also playing and more interesting to non-freo fans.

Have you got any examples of Brisbane's FTA ratings when the Titans are playing?

That is correct, targeting home markets do not always get higher ratings..

this is the case for 3 AFL teams

LIONS
SUNS
GWS

SWANS usually draw 10-20k higher on AVG than other games..

(Titans games when shown on FTA) rate actually pretty good in QLD>
but not so much in NSW

they generally would rate over 120k-150k when played on FTA in Metro .. do not have regionals ..

this is where the AFL style of Tv Deal would work great>>

LIVE IN QLD for Titans games, but on FOX Australia wide.

SportCapital wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:50 am

Almost 14mil lead in the projection.
For the well being of our northern counterparts I hope SOO do something special this year.
It's fast becoming a very large gap to bridge.
10mil might not cut it this year.

The_Wookie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:38 am

What about AFL Finals which have massively outrated NRL ones in recent years. What about the AFL preseason and AflW? I mean if we start counting "rugby league" ie. Origin, Tests and preseason...what about SANFL, WAFL, and VFL broadcasts - I can tell you now all 3 outright the Intrust Cup in Queensland, which i also have figures for, as opposed to NSW Cup (which is on Fox) and we dont have any figures for so far this year, although im trying to see if I can get that data too.

Theres more to this "most watched sport" shit than you let on.

The_Wookie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:38 am

What about AFL Finals which have massively outrated NRL ones in recent years. What about the AFL preseason and AflW? I mean if we start counting "rugby league" ie. Origin, Tests and preseason...what about SANFL, WAFL, and VFL broadcasts - I can tell you now all 3 outright the Intrust Cup in Queensland, which i also have figures for, as opposed to NSW Cup (which is on Fox) and we dont have any figures for so far this year, although im trying to see if I can get that data too.

Theres more to this "most watched sport" shit than you let on.

Terry wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:03 pm

The_Wookie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:38 am

What about AFL Finals which have massively outrated NRL ones in recent years. What about the AFL preseason and AflW? I mean if we start counting "rugby league" ie. Origin, Tests and preseason...what about SANFL, WAFL, and VFL broadcasts - I can tell you now all 3 outright the Intrust Cup in Queensland, which i also have figures for, as opposed to NSW Cup (which is on Fox) and we dont have any figures for so far this year, although im trying to see if I can get that data too.

Theres more to this "most watched sport" shit than you let on.

Of course Wookie. There are nuances and interpretations that can be twisted and turned in many different ways.

Unsurprisingly I believe my method, beatifically enunciated on previous occasions, is the best: Count both domestic seasons, finals and GF's. The AFL have more games played in their season. I believe this year it will be 6?? RL adds in SOO and internationals to make the number of games equal. Voila........simple, fair, comonsense!!!! Count ratings for the elite games only.

Of course then there is the matter of NZ ratings. In previous years you have added them in separately & given a total for the NRL both with and without them. That's the way to do it. The punter can choose if they..... you know......strike them in.....or strike them out.....we know how that's gonna work out. Once again .......simple, fair & commonsense.

So there ya have it!!! No more correspondence needed!!!! Bewdy!!!!!!

NlolRL wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:14 pm

Terry wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:03 pm

The_Wookie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:38 am

What about AFL Finals which have massively outrated NRL ones in recent years. What about the AFL preseason and AflW? I mean if we start counting "rugby league" ie. Origin, Tests and preseason...what about SANFL, WAFL, and VFL broadcasts - I can tell you now all 3 outright the Intrust Cup in Queensland, which i also have figures for, as opposed to NSW Cup (which is on Fox) and we dont have any figures for so far this year, although im trying to see if I can get that data too.

Theres more to this "most watched sport" shit than you let on.

Of course Wookie. There are nuances and interpretations that can be twisted and turned in many different ways.

Unsurprisingly I believe my method, beatifically enunciated on previous occasions, is the best: Count both domestic seasons, finals and GF's. The AFL have more games played in their season. I believe this year it will be 6?? RL adds in SOO and internationals to make the number of games equal. Voila........simple, fair, comonsense!!!! Count ratings for the elite games only.

Of course then there is the matter of NZ ratings. In previous years you have added them in separately & given a total for the NRL both with and without them. That's the way to do it. The punter can choose if they..... you know......strike them in.....or strike them out.....we know how that's gonna work out. Once again .......simple, fair & commonsense.

So there ya have it!!! No more correspondence needed!!!! Bewdy!!!!!!

So you count the sport vs the national comp. Of course you think that's fair

The_Wookie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:38 am

What about AFL Finals which have massively outrated NRL ones in recent years. What about the AFL preseason and AflW? I mean if we start counting "rugby league" ie. Origin, Tests and preseason...what about SANFL, WAFL, and VFL broadcasts - I can tell you now all 3 outright the Intrust Cup in Queensland, which i also have figures for, as opposed to NSW Cup (which is on Fox) and we dont have any figures for so far this year, although im trying to see if I can get that data too.

The rep games are a party of the Rugby League season. For Nearly 10 weeks the best 40 players are not available or are backing up after a few days .
Rugby League doesn't have to put its eggs in one basket they have options. That's what makes them Australia's most POPULAR sport.

NlolRL wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:20 pm

You think it's reasonable to count the AFL competition only vs the NRL competition plus games that arent part of the NRL competition

Terry wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:32 pm

NlolRL wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:20 pm

You think it's reasonable to count the AFL competition only vs the NRL competition plus games that arent part of the NRL competition

Pal, you can do it whatever way you like. Of course you will manufacture an AFL advantage. My fair and equitable method counts the exact same number of games played at the elite levels of both codes. RL has 3 levels, your mob has 1. At the end of the day I count the exact same number of games. Couldn't be fairer.

Last year RL had the most ratings anyway you look at it. This year your fumbling game may have more for the domestic comps only. (Although if NZ was added this may not be the case). Once RL adds in the requisite number of games to equal the number the AFL plays it will win.

Either way you will not accept anything that does not favour fumbleball. It's in your DNA pal. You know......the bubble and all that!!!!!!!!!!

NlolRL wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:43 pm

Terry wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:32 pm

NlolRL wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:20 pm

You think it's reasonable to count the AFL competition only vs the NRL competition plus games that arent part of the NRL competition

Pal, you can do it whatever way you like. Of course you will manufacture an AFL advantage. My fair and equitable method counts the exact same number of games played at the elite levels of both codes. RL has 3 levels, your mob has 1. At the end of the day I count the exact same number of games. Couldn't be fairer.

Last year RL had the most ratings anyway you look at it. This year your fumbling game may have more for the domestic comps only. (Although if NZ was added this may not be the case). Once RL adds in the requisite number of games to equal the number the AFL plays it will win.

Either way you will not accept anything that does not favour fumbleball. It's in your DNA pal. You know......the bubble and all that!!!!!!!!!!

oh you know your own bubble very well.

21-0 is just an anomaly

NlolRL wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:43 pm

Terry wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:32 pm

NlolRL wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:20 pm

You think it's reasonable to count the AFL competition only vs the NRL competition plus games that arent part of the NRL competition

Pal, you can do it whatever way you like. Of course you will manufacture an AFL advantage. My fair and equitable method counts the exact same number of games played at the elite levels of both codes. RL has 3 levels, your mob has 1. At the end of the day I count the exact same number of games. Couldn't be fairer.

Last year RL had the most ratings anyway you look at it. This year your fumbling game may have more for the domestic comps only. (Although if NZ was added this may not be the case). Once RL adds in the requisite number of games to equal the number the AFL plays it will win.

Either way you will not accept anything that does not favour fumbleball. It's in your DNA pal. You know......the bubble and all that!!!!!!!!!!

oh you know your own bubble very well.

21-0 is just an anomaly

NlolRL wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:58 am

leeroy*NRL* wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:43 am

NlolRL wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:33 am

but it is a decrease in ratings overall if more would watch the collingwood game on FTA.

Targteting home markets doesn't always result in higher ratings. EG: Fremantle v Suns shown in Perth on FTA while Crows v Collingwood is also playing and more interesting to non-freo fans.

Have you got any examples of Brisbane's FTA ratings when the Titans are playing?

That is correct, targeting home markets do not always get higher ratings..

this is the case for 3 AFL teams

LIONS
SUNS
GWS

SWANS usually draw 10-20k higher on AVG than other games..

(Titans games when shown on FTA) rate actually pretty good in QLD>
but not so much in NSW

they generally would rate over 120k-150k when played on FTA in Metro .. do not have regionals ..

this is where the AFL style of Tv Deal would work great>>

LIVE IN QLD for Titans games, but on FOX Australia wide.

Bigger games rate higher in Qld than the suns or sometimes even the lions. I agree with the Swans, but over a year that'll be maybe 23 times 20k extra, or 500k more?

Got examples of Titans ratings? I doubt they rate much more than non-Brisbane games but Im happy to be shown otherwise. As far as Im aware GC is considered part of Brisbane for ratings so regionals wouldnt be higher

The_Wookie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:57 pm

Terry wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:32 pm

Pal, you can do it whatever way you like. Of course you will manufacture an AFL advantage. My fair and equitable method counts the exact same number of games played at the elite levels of both codes. RL has 3 levels, your mob has 1. At the end of the day I count the exact same number of games. Couldn't be fairer.

Last year RL had the most ratings anyway you look at it. This year your fumbling game may have more for the domestic comps only. (Although if NZ was added this may not be the case). Once RL adds in the requisite number of games to equal the number the AFL plays it will win.

Either way you will not accept anything that does not favour fumbleball. It's in your DNA pal. You know......the bubble and all that!!!!!!!!!!

"Manufacture" - you mean treat both sides the same way.

My policy is I add all games played under the TV deals for both sports. Preseason, season, finals, rep games and anything else that falls under the deal.