Fight Club - Football TV Ratings (AFL vs NRL)

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28/6/21
Watching sport on Australian TV has become more complicated and expensive than ever before
By national sport reporter David Mark

The Champions League will have a new home on Nine's subscription service Stan next season.(


If you love sport — and I mean really love sport — your life has just become more complicated and more expensive.

The coverage of sport has become increasingly balkanised over the past few years since Foxtel lost its once-impenetrable monopoly.

This week, Nine Entertainment announced its pay TV arm Stan had bought the rights to the world's best annual international football tournament, the UEFA Champions League, and all of the lesser UEFA competitions.

If you are spending your days and nights awake at the moment during the busiest month or so of the sporting calendar, you will be flicking through the channels and paying for the privilege.

Wimbledon and the upcoming Wallabies internationals against France are on Stan and Nine's free-to-air channels, the European Cup is on Optus and certain AFL and NRL matches are exclusively on Foxtel or its cheaper streaming arm, Kayo.

Only the Tour de France on SBS is entirely free (unless you count paying for the ads).

Soon it will get more complicated — particularly if you are a football fan.

Come August, all Australian men's and women's football internationals will be available through new streaming platform Paramount+, which also has a long-term deal to show A-League and W-League matches.


The new streaming platform Paramount+ will show the 2021/22 W-League season.(AAP: Dean Lewins)
The English Premier League and the 2023 Women's World Cup in Australia and New Zealand will be streamed on Optus.

And now the Champions League and other UEFA competitions will be on Stan, which also owns the rights to local and international rugby union.

Other European competitions, such as Italy's Serie A and Spain's La Liga, are on Foxtel/Kayo, which still owns the pay TV rights to the AFL, NRL, cricket and motor racing.

So, what will you be paying for the four sport streaming services?

Let us break it down and we will be rounding up by a cent because as we all know, $14.99 is really $15.

A subscription to Stan Sport costs $10, but you will be paying that on top of a basic Stan subscription that costs $10, and $19 if you want HD and the ability to watch on more screens at the same time — useful for big families.

Optus Sport costs $15 per month or $99 for a year.

Kayo costs between $25-35 per month, which also depends on how many screens you think you will want at the same time.

If you want to go "old school" and get Foxtel, rather than Kayo, you will pay $89 for the cheapest package involving sport.

Paramount+ said it would be charging $9 per month once the service begins on August 11.

Let us add it up and for the sake of this exercise, we will say we are opting for Kayo and the Optus Sport annual package to save money.

If you take the premium end of those deals, you will be paying $975 per year or $81.25 per month.

The cheapest you will get away with — if you are happy with some standard-definition pictures and the minimum number of watchable screens — is $747 annually or $62.25 per month.

If you want to go for Foxtel, rather than Kayo, and you cannot commit to a full year of Optus, you will be paying $1,704 per year or $142 per month.

Any way you look at it, it is expensive and complicated if you want access to all your sport.

And if you add in a Netflix, Disney+ or Prime Amazon subscription for all the other TV you and your family want to watch, it might be time to cut back on takeaway food and sell the indoor bike gathering dust out the back.

Sport programming is fertile ground

Foxtel always struggled to capture all but the diehard sports fans, even when it had a monopoly on pay-TV sports rights.

Its product was too expensive to justify if it was just sport you wanted and not Foxtel's suite of other programming.

Foxtel's decision to launch the sport-only product Kayo prompted many who might have been holding off to jump on board.

But then Optus shocked many by suddenly becoming a broadcaster, buying the rights to the English Premier League, and since then Stan and Paramount+ have entered the field.


Australia's Olympic swimming trials were streamed on Amazon Prime.
Amazon Prime has shown its interest in sport, having televised the recent Australian Olympic swimming trials and at the documentary end of the spectrum, it has commissioned and produced two documentary series about the Australian cricket team and last year’s AFL season.

It is fertile ground, as Netflix subscribers know if they have watched the two series of Drive to Survive or the excellent Sunderland 'Til I Die.

The Covid-19 pandemic forced Australia's two biggest football competitions, the AFL and NRL, to strike new deals with Foxtel/Kayo.

For now, those sports are staying put but who is to say what will happen in years to come?

Will Optus, Stan or Paramount+ be prepared to pay $1 billion plus for the AFL or NRL rights or will other broadcast platforms such as Netflix, Amazon Prime or even Google and Facebook enter the market?

The AFL is keeping a close eye on developments in the streaming of live sporting events.
Cricket is secure until 2024, at least as far as Foxtel is concerned.

But Seven West Media, which holds the free-to-air rights for all domestic cricket and Test matches, is still in a bitter court despite with Cricket Australia over the value of the deal.

Watching sport used to be simple. You had little choice, but it was free.

Then Foxtel bought everything that was not nailed down by the Federal government's anti-siphoning list and some things that were.

But Pearman Media analyst Steve Allen said Foxtel was now "bleeding sports".

With so many players in the market now, Australian sport is getting diluted, and Allen said there would be a cost.

"Eyeballs are the key … for the sports and their popularity, and the rights that come up," he said.

"When you don't, you have the sheer volume of eyeballs, it affects the other pillars of where you get revenue from as sports administrators — sponsorship and all that sort of stuff."

Allen said free-to-air coverage was still fundamentally important for sports to gain enough of an audience to maintain popularity and interest and hence revenue.

"Where these sports administrators tend to be going, they're not calculating this in with enough science," he said.

"Because they're heading down a route where I don't think they're going to the widest possible audience."

As viewers, we are now spoiled for choice.

But to get what you want, you will have to abide by the same adage as the broadcasters, streamers and telecommunications company who are playing games with each other and sports administrators to secure TV rights.

You pay, you get.
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The_Wookie wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:26 pm
Seven’s AFL scores big in Brisbane

Highest AFL non-finals audience in more than 10 years

The biggest Brisbane AFL audience for a regular season match since 2010 tuned into the Seven Network last night, with 107,000 local fans cheering the Lions on as they romped to a 44-point win over Geelong at the Gabba.

It was the largest AFL audience in Brisbane for a home and away fixture since Brisbane v Carlton in 2010, and the first time in more than a decade that Brisbane’s average audience topped 100,000.

Brisbane’s average AFL audience in 2021 is up 38% on 2019, the biggest growth of any market on Seven.

Managing Director Seven Melbourne and Head of Network Sport, Lewis Martin, said: "Last night was an incredible result and again shows that AFL footy continues to go from strength to strength in Queensland.

“It’s a continuation of the remarkable support Brisbane fans showed the AFL during the 2020 season and underlines just how strong the connection is between Queensland and Australian footy.”

Last night’s broadcast reached 1.83 million people across the country, averaging 781,000 viewers nationally and 582,000 in the capital cities. It was #1 in its timeslot in 25 to 54s and total people.
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When did they let you out?
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pussycat Mark 11 wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:42 pm
When did they let you out?
Last week. I managed to convince all of my queensland prison inmates to follow AFL as well. Truly a game that represents the great northern state the best :thumbleft: :salute:
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QueenslandISAFL wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:09 pm
pussycat Mark 11 wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:42 pm
When did they let you out?
Last week. I managed to convince all of my queensland prison inmates to follow AFL as well. Truly a game that represents the great northern state the best :thumbleft: :salute:
There wouldn't of been to many in your ward though, surely?
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Well lockdowns in Bris and Sydney sure made a difference. NRLs FTA for 1v5 was 347, fox was 214. Estimated regional of 200k would make it 751k

Afl was 8th v 14th involving the Suns. Melbourne is not in lockdown. FTA 485k, fox 156k, regional estimate 160k is a total of 801k.

Lol @ NRL. Everything stacked in their favour and they still get beaten
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And if the 50 nil smashing included streaming its ratings would of finished in front of the AFL thriller :cheers:
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pussycat Mark 11 wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:24 pm
And if the 50 nil smashing included streaming its ratings would of finished in front of the AFL thriller :cheers:
1v5 with your heartland in lockdown shouldn't need a close game to rate more than 800k.

It certainly shouldn't be beaten by 8v14 involving the suns

Didn't the NRL change rules to make the game more exciting? Now you're getting easier scoring so more blow-outs. Haha
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NlolRL wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:40 pm
pussycat Mark 11 wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:24 pm
And if the 50 nil smashing included streaming its ratings would of finished in front of the AFL thriller :cheers:
1v5 with your heartland in lockdown shouldn't need a close game to rate more than 800k.

It certainly shouldn't be beaten by 8v14 involving the suns

Didn't the NRL change rules to make the game more exciting? Now you're getting easier scoring so more blow-outs. Haha
The 'ol but but but boy!!!!!!! With streaming added RL will win this one!!!!

But but but!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Terry wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:49 pm
NlolRL wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:40 pm
pussycat Mark 11 wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:24 pm
And if the 50 nil smashing included streaming its ratings would of finished in front of the AFL thriller :cheers:
1v5 with your heartland in lockdown shouldn't need a close game to rate more than 800k.

It certainly shouldn't be beaten by 8v14 involving the suns

Didn't the NRL change rules to make the game more exciting? Now you're getting easier scoring so more blow-outs. Haha
The 'ol but but but boy!!!!!!! With streaming added RL will win this one!!!!

But but but!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feel free to post last night's streaming numbers. Otherwise STFU
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NlolRL wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:19 pm
Terry wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:49 pm
NlolRL wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:40 pm

1v5 with your heartland in lockdown shouldn't need a close game to rate more than 800k.

It certainly shouldn't be beaten by 8v14 involving the suns

Didn't the NRL change rules to make the game more exciting? Now you're getting easier scoring so more blow-outs. Haha
The 'ol but but but boy!!!!!!! With streaming added RL will win this one!!!!

But but but!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feel free to post last night's streaming numbers. Otherwise STFU

Lololololol!!!!!!!! Very aggro my friend. You see, it's like this: we all know there is a lot of streaming these days. The numbers aren't always put out. But we have enough to prove RL flogs fumbling with same!!

As such, I now proclaim RL the winner last night!!!!!

But but but but but but lolololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!
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NlolRL wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:40 pm
pussycat Mark 11 wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:24 pm
And if the 50 nil smashing included streaming its ratings would of finished in front of the AFL thriller :cheers:
1v5 with your heartland in lockdown shouldn't need a close game to rate more than 800k.

It certainly shouldn't be beaten by 8v14 involving the suns

Didn't the NRL change rules to make the game more exciting? Now you're getting easier scoring so more blow-outs. Haha

Think the Suns were 16th not 14th ?
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Terry wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:45 pm
NlolRL wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:19 pm
Terry wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:49 pm


The 'ol but but but boy!!!!!!! With streaming added RL will win this one!!!!

But but but!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feel free to post last night's streaming numbers. Otherwise STFU

Lololololol!!!!!!!! Very aggro my friend. You see, it's like this: we all know there is a lot of streaming these days. The numbers aren't always put out. But we have enough to prove RL flogs fumbling with same!!

As such, I now proclaim RL the winner last night!!!!!

But but but but but but lolololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!
So you're basing it on a few figures released months ago. Cool story brew

But but but indeed.

Furthermore, what happened to the massive spike in ratings due to lockdown of 8mil people in Sydneyand brisbane? 750k is pitiful
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NlolRL wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 4:34 pm
Terry wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:45 pm
NlolRL wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:19 pm

Feel free to post last night's streaming numbers. Otherwise STFU

Lololololol!!!!!!!! Very aggro my friend. You see, it's like this: we all know there is a lot of streaming these days. The numbers aren't always put out. But we have enough to prove RL flogs fumbling with same!!

As such, I now proclaim RL the winner last night!!!!!

But but but but but but lolololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!
So you're basing it on a few figures released months ago. Cool story brew

But but but indeed.

Furthermore, what happened to the massive spike in ratings due to lockdown of 8mil people in Sydneyand brisbane? 750k is pitiful

The streaming numbers given prove the point pal. RL flogs your mess massively. Just like on Fox. The lockdown would have some effect. On roar actual numbers RL wins last night.

Cheers Pal. But but but but but lololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Incoming lololol!!!!!!!!!
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NlolRL wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:28 pm
Well lockdowns in Bris and Sydney sure made a difference. NRLs FTA for 1v5 was 347, fox was 214. Estimated regional of 200k would make it 751k

Afl was 8th v 14th involving the Suns. Melbourne is not in lockdown. FTA 485k, fox 156k, regional estimate 160k is a total of 801k.

Lol @ NRL. Everything stacked in their favour and they still get beaten
And nearly as many viewers for Gold Coast vs Richmond in Sydney (33k) as the table topping Melbourne Storm vs Sydney Roosters in Melbourne (35k). Oh dear :(/



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