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pussycat · Post by **pussycat** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:48 am

Beaussie wrote:
Not sure what to do about Game 2 with that being the case. Only AGBNielsen provides the market breakdowns.

There all there. http://www.thinktv.com.au/SiteMedia/w3s ... 5_2011.pdf

Onions · Post by **Onions** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:57 am

Didn't Beaussie say that TAM was bullshit?

Raiderdave · Post by **Raiderdave** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:57 am

pussycat wrote:
Beaussie wrote:
Not sure what to do about Game 2 with that being the case. Only AGBNielsen provides the market breakdowns.
There all there. http://www.thinktv.com.au/SiteMedia/w3s ... 5_2011.pdf

Yeah that only gives you the total

Beaussie is after the breakdown which is only available on regionaltam which is on the blink ATM

NNSW
SNSW
QLD
VIC
TAS... will only come up if origin made the top 20 shows there for that week

Onions · Post by **Onions** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:58 am

That's why Beaussie said it was bullshit! That's not all of Australia!

Raiderdave · Post by **Raiderdave** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:20 pm

Onions wrote:
That's why Beaussie said it was bullshit! That's not all of Australia!

OK
I will try n explain it ... & maybe you should try & respond without name calling ... glib remarks ... or pointless observations
lets see if you do in fact have any debating skills

look at these maps
http://www.oztam.com.au/pdf/TV_ratings/ ... e_maps.pdf

they are maps for coverage of all Capital Cities
the complaint from AFL fans is that the regional populations of SA & WA are ignored in the ratings
this is only partly true ... as almost all are taken into account .. on these maps

the coverage map for Perth attached .. covers a population of over 2 Million .. yet Perths population is only 1.6 million
the difference being satellite cities & regional areas near Perth

same for Adelaide
coverage map .. covers 1.5 Million people
Adelaides population about 1.2 Million

whats left is hardly anything ... 300K combined in both states at most
& NT .. 200K
so ratings about on par with Tasmania

all good ?........... good

Onions · Post by **Onions** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:48 pm

No, bad. That was a mess that was just typical of you, kid!

Go back to school and come back when you can present a decent point. If you don't cover all of Australia it's bullshit! Stop making excuses just to make yourself look smart when you're not.

Whoa - forgot. Answer the new thread. Or are you too scared to?

Here's challenge for you. Where do you get the population differences? It's not on the link you gave! No way is it 1.5 million for Adelaide metro. Absolutely no way is it over 2 million for Perth metro! And don't fucking ignore the Territory or Tasmania, dickhead!!

King-Eliagh · Post by **King-Eliagh** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:12 pm

Beaussie and MarkZZ, Great to see the pair of you take the stand and make a bet on crowds. It is unfortunate though that AAMI only holds 30k, if it was 50k there'd be no doubts the SOO would take the cake.

Will be a close one me thinks.

Post by **Beaussie** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:53 pm

Raiderdave wrote:
Onions wrote:
That's why Beaussie said it was bullshit! That's not all of Australia!
OK
I will try n explain it ... & maybe you should try & respond without name calling ... glib remarks ... or pointless observations
lets see if you do in fact have any debating skills

look at these maps
http://www.oztam.com.au/pdf/TV_ratings/ ... e_maps.pdf

they are maps for coverage of all Capital Cities
the complaint from AFL fans is that the regional populations of SA & WA are ignored in the ratings
this is only partly true ... as almost all are taken into account .. on these maps

the coverage map for Perth attached .. covers a population of over 2 Million .. yet Perths population is only 1.6 million
the difference being satellite cities & regional areas near Perth

same for Adelaide
coverage map .. covers 1.5 Million people
Adelaides population about 1.2 Million

whats left is hardly anything ... 300K combined in both states at most
& NT .. 200K
so ratings about on par with Tasmania

all good ?........... good

Big chuncks of SA, WA and the entire NT are not included. My biggest gripe with regionals though is all the double counting. Take Brisbane that includes Gold Coast also covered by RegionalTAM. It's a mess and not reliable if you ask me or many others... not just AFL fans.

Raiderdave · Post by **Raiderdave** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:11 am

Beaussie wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Onions wrote:
That's why Beaussie said it was bullshit! That's not all of Australia!
OK
I will try n explain it ... & maybe you should try & respond without name calling ... glib remarks ... or pointless observations
lets see if you do in fact have any debating skills

look at these maps
http://www.oztam.com.au/pdf/TV_ratings/ ... e_maps.pdf

they are maps for coverage of all Capital Cities
the complaint from AFL fans is that the regional populations of SA & WA are ignored in the ratings
this is only partly true ... as almost all are taken into account .. on these maps

the coverage map for Perth attached .. covers a population of over 2 Million .. yet Perths population is only 1.6 million
the difference being satellite cities & regional areas near Perth

same for Adelaide
coverage map .. covers 1.5 Million people
Adelaides population about 1.2 Million

whats left is hardly anything ... 300K combined in both states at most
& NT .. 200K
so ratings about on par with Tasmania

all good ?........... good
Big chuncks of SA, WA and the entire NT are not included. My biggest gripe with regionals though is all the double counting. Take Brisbane that includes Gold Coast also covered by RegionalTAM. It's a mess and not reliable if you ask me or many others... not just AFL fans.

500K regional victorians are also included in Melbournes figures too Beaussie
more then covering GC / Brissie
are these people double counted in both the regional figures for VIC & Melb..
I'd say they are ............ hmmmm

Post by **Beaussie** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:25 am

Raiderdave wrote:
Beaussie wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
OK
I will try n explain it ... & maybe you should try & respond without name calling ... glib remarks ... or pointless observations
lets see if you do in fact have any debating skills

look at these maps
http://www.oztam.com.au/pdf/TV_ratings/ ... e_maps.pdf

they are maps for coverage of all Capital Cities
the complaint from AFL fans is that the regional populations of SA & WA are ignored in the ratings
this is only partly true ... as almost all are taken into account .. on these maps

the coverage map for Perth attached .. covers a population of over 2 Million .. yet Perths population is only 1.6 million
the difference being satellite cities & regional areas near Perth

same for Adelaide
coverage map .. covers 1.5 Million people
Adelaides population about 1.2 Million

whats left is hardly anything ... 300K combined in both states at most
& NT .. 200K
so ratings about on par with Tasmania

all good ?........... good
Big chuncks of SA, WA and the entire NT are not included. My biggest gripe with regionals though is all the double counting. Take Brisbane that includes Gold Coast also covered by RegionalTAM. It's a mess and not reliable if you ask me or many others... not just AFL fans.
500K regional victorians are also included in Melbournes figures too Beaussie
more then covering GC / Brissie
are these people double counted in both the regional figures for VIC & Melb..
I'd say they are ............ hmmmm

I didn't look closely at the Melbourne OzTAM map. If that's the case, then yeah it just reinforces my point (and many other I must add) as to why suggestions that regional tv ratings should be taken into acouunt is a joke. They are a very unreliable source for tv ratings, even you allude to that above.

Onions · Post by **Onions** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:19 am

Raiderdave wrote:
Beaussie wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
OK
I will try n explain it ... & maybe you should try & respond without name calling ... glib remarks ... or pointless observations
lets see if you do in fact have any debating skills

look at these maps
http://www.oztam.com.au/pdf/TV_ratings/ ... e_maps.pdf

they are maps for coverage of all Capital Cities
the complaint from AFL fans is that the regional populations of SA & WA are ignored in the ratings
this is only partly true ... as almost all are taken into account .. on these maps

the coverage map for Perth attached .. covers a population of over 2 Million .. yet Perths population is only 1.6 million
the difference being satellite cities & regional areas near Perth

same for Adelaide
coverage map .. covers 1.5 Million people
Adelaides population about 1.2 Million

whats left is hardly anything ... 300K combined in both states at most
& NT .. 200K
so ratings about on par with Tasmania

all good ?........... good
Big chuncks of SA, WA and the entire NT are not included. My biggest gripe with regionals though is all the double counting. Take Brisbane that includes Gold Coast also covered by RegionalTAM. It's a mess and not reliable if you ask me or many others... not just AFL fans.
500K regional victorians are also included in Melbournes figures too Beaussie
more then covering GC / Brissie
are these people double counted in both the regional figures for VIC & Melb..
I'd say they are ............ hmmmm

500K??? Go fuck yourself, raider Boy. You KNOW that's not true and you refuse to even show us proof! Just like when I shut you down on South Australia and Western Australia! NO PROOF!

pussycat · Post by **pussycat** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:49 pm

Beaussie wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Beaussie wrote:
Big chuncks of SA, WA and the entire NT are not included. My biggest gripe with regionals though is all the double counting. Take Brisbane that includes Gold Coast also covered by RegionalTAM. It's a mess and not reliable if you ask me or many others... not just AFL fans.
500K regional victorians are also included in Melbournes figures too Beaussie
more then covering GC / Brissie
are these people double counted in both the regional figures for VIC & Melb..
I'd say they are ............ hmmmm
I didn't look closely at the Melbourne OzTAM map. If that's the case, then yeah it just reinforces my point (and many other I must add) as to why suggestions that regional tv ratings should be taken into acouunt is a joke. They are a very unreliable source for tv ratings, even you allude to that above.

If a region gets dual Tv signals, eg. the Gold Coast gets both 7 and Prime or 9 and Win, How does this affect the ratings as far as football numbers are concerned? A person can only be watching one station, either 7 or prime, not both. So if you got a larger or smaller figure for Brisbane (due to the GC reading) your going to get a mirror opposite reading for regional Qld. And in the end, as far as the ratings for the football codes go, there would be no difference whatsoever.

Onions · Post by **Onions** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:20 pm

Hey Kitten, according to your precious fucked up systems OzTam counts metro only and RegionalTAM counts regional only. Right? So the point is if Gold Coast is seen as regional according to little fuck up Raider Boy, OzTam AND RegionalTAM will count it in their seperate surveys!! DOUBLE COUNT!!

I see that Raider Boy as usual won't back up that 500K crock of shit from Melbourne surrounds with proof! Oh the silence on that is fucking DEAFENING!

pussycat · Post by **pussycat** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:46 pm

Metro only counts Ch. 7,9,2,10 and SBS.

Onions · Post by **Onions** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:12 pm

All five channels go across each fucking state!!! Get into the real world will you?

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